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Title: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: jOhN on January 09, 2006, 05:45:06 PM
Has anyone had an e-mail from this company in relation to Fairport?

I've just recieved one with a link to a website asking me to confirm subscription to a newsletter.

The e-mail claims to be from Fairport themselves

I've checked the Fairport website but there's no mention of this company, plus they are using a Yahoo e-mail address.

Is it legit or spam??


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: JJ (Joanna) on January 09, 2006, 05:50:27 PM
Hope not!  :o Cos I've just clicked onto the link and I have had an automated response??  ??? I assumed it was for an on-line newsletter?????


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: Cocker Freeman on January 09, 2006, 05:57:25 PM
It's sent out by Ian Northcott and, according to the Fairport List, is a Fairport-approved e-mail version of the newsletter coming out twice a year.

The yahoo address is to avoid Fairport or Ian's marketing company getting spam themselves.

There's quite a healthy debate being going on on the "List" about it but it is kosher it seems.


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on January 09, 2006, 06:02:02 PM
I've clicked it too... pretty sure it's ok...


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: Paul on January 09, 2006, 06:14:09 PM
Has anybody had this e-mail from fairport (copy below).

I am not sure it is genuine, as it is from a Yahoo address, not the proper Fairport one. Cany anybody confirm it's genuine before I reply to it please.

Paul

Quote
Hello

We know that when you joined up you were happy for us to use your email addresses to write to you.

In the interests of ethcical email marketing we need you to now confirm that it is ok for us to send you stuff once or twice a year.

Please click on the link below to confirm your subscription to our email newsletter.

Your email address will not be shared with anyone.



-----------------------------------------------------------
CONFIRM BY VISITING THE LINK BELOW:

http://www.aweber.com/z/c/?znzs3coaugpk72tqbd5ty03a2g==527

Click the link above to give us permission to send you
information.  It's fast and easy!  If you cannot click the
full URL above please copy and paste it into your web
browser.

Or, if you prefer, reply to this message with the
confirmation key in the subject line.

-----------------------------------------------------------
If you do not want to subscribe, simply ignore this message.

Thank you.

The Chaps

Northshaw Marketing Associates Limited, Registered Office, 140 New Road, Bromsgrove, Worcs, UK, B60 2LE.


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: Cocker Freeman on January 09, 2006, 06:18:05 PM
See "Northshaw Marketing", Paul.

The email is ligit and officially backed by Fairport advertising an email version of their newsletter.

For more discussion on this, see the "Fairport List".


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: Paul on January 09, 2006, 06:34:49 PM
Thanks Cocker.

It just seemed odd they were using a Yahoo address to send it out.

Paul


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: tarda (Gill) on January 09, 2006, 08:41:09 PM
I've got it too, and I thought it looked odd.
I can't cope with the volume from the fairport list at the moment so missed it there.
But why a yahoo, non fairport address?


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: Andy on January 09, 2006, 10:47:05 PM
I already deleted it when legitimacy was declared.

I doubt I'll worry. All the information I want, I get right here.


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: tony the roundhead on January 09, 2006, 11:47:37 PM
The debate on this on the list is raising some interesting issues on spamming. I'm staying well away from signing up until I know a lot more.


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: Simon Nicol on January 10, 2006, 11:26:23 AM
The email you have recently recieved from <nmaltdfc@yahoo.co.uk> regarding a continuing relationship with Fairport is entirely legitmate and is originated and authorised by us as a band that you know and trust. Its purpose (because you have all individually volunteered your e-contacts along with your postal addresses hitherto) is an entirely ethical one deliberately to obviate the SPAM factor we all find so dreadful. You are being asked to “opt-in” formally to confirm this relationship, once or maybe twice a year. Your own personal details are to be held privately, not shared in any other domain,  and I urge you to trust us in this and all other matters: this was my idea of finding another way of reaching out and letting you know what we’re up to and keeping in touch with you. The people who run the system are trustworthy and I would have liked to have made a personal message like this part of the “handshake” procedure but space and time did not permit.
Meantime, if it’s not too late, Happy New Year.
Simon


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: PaulT on January 10, 2006, 11:29:53 AM
Thanks Simon for clarification.  Roll on Tewkesbury!


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: mikec on January 10, 2006, 11:46:44 AM
Thanks for that Simon and a Happy New Year to you as well.


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: DaviD J (was geriatrix) on January 10, 2006, 07:43:26 PM
Sorry folks - this doesn't necessarily come out clean in the wash.

This is being handled through:

http://www.northshawmarketing.co.uk/wst_page4.html

who is possibly the same guy as this:

http://www.transformationstrategies.co.uk/ (note the link to internet marketing)



The link we are asked to click is http://www.aweber.com/z/c/?znzs3cv2nglh4lnuznmprb2dn9nu1ty03a2g==2606

Some info on aweber.com is here http://www.hostasaurus.com/spam-aweber.com.php

I am less than happy about this, and suspect that I'm not alone. Sorry Simon.


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: Jim on January 10, 2006, 07:54:35 PM
Well being the fearless fool i am, i replied and got a nice emaither back from the chaps
 and the world kept on turning  [;-)


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: YaBB Master (Colin) on January 10, 2006, 11:01:17 PM
Aweber.com is just a web maketing firm, not really spammers. They are the people who provide the service and software that the newsletter operates on.

Some versions of this can be configured to be employ quite aggressive marketing, by sending out a sequence of apparently personalised follow-ups, which would probably be considered Spam. That's what has got the bad comments.
From the statements, the Fairport newsletter isn't intending to use this. So I'd say it was probably harmless, but ill advised.

However the invitation email didn't look good, especially with a Yahoo address. It's not very 'folk family'.


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: Mix (Mic) on January 10, 2006, 11:17:00 PM
I haven't had one of these emails, possibly because the email address that the Fairport Newsletter had for me is no more.... and I forgot to do anything about it.
Question: I re-regstered my email details through the FC Website, but haven't had any confirmation that its registered with them, so should I be registering through the link that Simon has posted, or just sit back, wait and think of England?

Mic - confused of Staffs ::)


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: SteveK on January 11, 2006, 07:11:17 AM
Hi Mix,

Don't click on the examples of aweber links that others have posted here - they are personalised to that particular recipient of the email and confirm that persons opt-in, not your own. If you are unsure if Fairport have added you to their list for this run of emailings, then it's probably a good idea to ask them via email on their general email address listed on their contacts page.

I'm on their list, but have not yet received an email... Has everyone else who has subscribed to the Fairport mailing list received an email already?

SteveK
I can't comment on the ethics of aweber. Had had I received such an email would have been suspicious, but I would have been able to trace it as being from the chaps or not. My basic investigations seem to agree with Colin's statement above. Thanks to Simon for confirming the authenticity of the email. 


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: Angela on January 11, 2006, 11:58:20 AM
I havn't had one yet :'(


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: Tasha on January 11, 2006, 12:22:38 PM
I've had one ;D


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: Anna on January 11, 2006, 12:35:37 PM
I had one, but the company's internet watchdog wouldn't let me click on the link (naive fool that I am, it didn't even occur to me that a spammer would bother with the relatively small catch proffered by the Fairport list).  So I replied to the email instead.  Haven't had anything back from that though - unless it's been caught again by the anti-spam software.


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: Simon Nicol on January 11, 2006, 05:33:17 PM
To Mix and Denjack (and any who self-categorize): I understand that people change their e-dresses and don't think of informing anybody who lists the previous one: life's too short to be that diligent. The e-mail management company Northshaw have already started to return to me those redundant edresses the system automatically throws up and I will delete them as I go from the master database here: please feel free to resubmit your new information via the FC website "Contact Us" page in the normal way if you move house or change your ISP at any time. It's not to say that an amendment now will result in a current addition to the numbers receiving the reminder of the forthcoming Wintour I'm planning to send out before Feb 1st mind. I'm sure all of you reading this now have already decided whether or not your mid-winter plans include some time in the stalls of the Uttoxeter Gaumont!
And thank you Colin for explaining the role that aweber has in this.... If they have a bad name in some quarters it is because the Herald is being blamed for the Message.
Heraldically Yours.


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: Angela on January 11, 2006, 05:47:12 PM
Thanks Simon, though I havn't changed my email address or moved, but never mind because I've already booked our tickets for Canterbury.

from a not very diligent Angela...who used to be Denjack ;D


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: Keith on January 11, 2006, 07:01:09 PM
Like Andy I deleted the e-mail instinctively as it looked like spam. I'm not happy giving my e-mail address to a client of a client of Fairport's, so will just carry on reading the web site which I hope will contain a copy of the same newsletter.

Andy F and Ian N have come under a lot of stick on the List, but I won't repeat anything here. Needless to say, I think that Simon has done the right thing to head off any runaway criticism here, and made it it a lot easier to make up our minds objectively - Widds, Donna and co will, I'm sure make relevant posts on the List.


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: tony the roundhead on January 11, 2006, 07:06:46 PM
I don't pretend to understand this technical spam mularchy but I do know that any company that has the tag line "Specialists in relationship building marketing solutions" on their web site deserves a big slap.  :) 


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: JJ (Joanna) on January 23, 2006, 07:56:45 PM
It's great receiving an e-mail from Fairport today! I thought it well presented, very informative and very much 'alive' with information and links. I assume this is as a result of them asking us to click on that link which started this thread?  ???


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: mikemush on January 24, 2006, 04:08:54 AM
  Far from complaining..........but with Feast of Fiddles playing......I thought DM wasn't going to play Cropredy again  :-\

  Delighted, nonetheless!!


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: mikec on January 24, 2006, 09:13:04 AM
I'm with you MM. Delighted to see DM play again.

As to why, no idea but time is a great healer.

So, we've got DM, Swarb, Nicol & Pegg. Can we now please have Babbacombe Lee? Pretty Please. Pretty Pretty Please *insert grovelling smiley here*


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: Chris on January 26, 2006, 09:26:57 PM
As to why, no idea but time is a great healer.

And 2007 is the 40th anniversary......
so, with luck, a double-bill of Fairport on Friday & Saturday night....when past-Fairport traditionally take the first of these to celebrate the back catalogue - and DM would be a must now, surely.

I reckon this year is just a rehearsal.....


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: bcfc dave on January 26, 2006, 10:52:17 PM
Like Andy I deleted the e-mail instinctively as it looked like spam. I'm not happy giving my e-mail address to a client of a client of Fairport's, so will just carry on reading the web site which I hope will contain a copy of the same newsletter.

Yep! looked well dodgy, deleted.

Looking forward to sitting in the stalls 'though, but at W-S-M, not Uttoxexeterwhatever...


Title: Re: e-mail from Fairport
Post by: mikec on January 31, 2006, 03:08:10 PM

I reckon this year is just a rehearsal.....

OK, in that case i'll let them off with just the Hanging Song. On the basis that we get it ALL in 2007  ;)