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ok.
just been sitting here discussing bands which lack original members but keep the same name, and that led us to fairport....
so who knows what the fairport family tree really is?
and who was the drummer before gerry, or is he the only one?
did they keep him in cos they couldnt afford to change the skin on the bass drum?
when they do that fairport old and new thing at crop, how come nobody comes to relieve him?

(should have bought that album.)

Hopefully to answer your question.

Fairport still have an original member and there will be a prize if you can guess who he is.

The family tree is far too complex to explain adequately here, I think there is one in one of the boxes and an early one that was already very confusing on the History album you were looking at.

The drummer before Gery was Dave Mattacks who may plays at Cropredy this year, reasons for leaving are shrouded in mystery and probably rightly so. Before him was Bruce Rowland and before him was Dave Mattacks, see how confusing this can be, before him was the much admired Martin Lamble. Also somewhere in here was a stand in but I can't remember his name.

They probably keep Gerry because he is good regardless of whether or not the skins need changing.

Gerry is not replaced at Cropredy because of afore mentioned mystery, Mr Rowland has retired but has been known to bang a mean tambourine at Cropredy and Matin Lamble was killed in the crash.

Yes you probably should have bought the album.

But I hope this helped.

A guide to line ups can be found at
http://www.fcfansite.fsnet.co.uk/ (http://www.fcfansite.fsnet.co.uk/)
look under Roll call

I guess you're thinking of Paul Warren here Neil.

what about Tom Farnell?
who has he upset?
 and i take it Shaun Frater doesnt count

I don't think either Tom |Farnell or Shaum=n Frater were stand in's they were both proper members (even if Shaun Frater only played one gig).

But yes, they both should be in the list of drummers.

It's worse than Spinal Tap.

Who they upset I don't know, but they were never let out to play on the record, another statement waiting to be proven wrong. Like I said it's hard to keep up.

Who the Eff are Fairport, you ask?

You have obviously bypassed our stringent membership requirements in not studying the following item to GCSE standard.

http://www.fairportconvention.com/features.htm

Your homework this weekend is to answer the following:

First question:  'Which female vocalist sang with Fairport?'
Second question:  'What was the name of the other one?'
Thirdly:  'Fill in the blanks    (        ) Nicol, (             )Thompson, (             )Mattacks, Jerry (            )
             Dave (            and              ),  (           ) Allcock,  Elvis (              ),  
Fourthly:  In the last question, which was the odd one out?

Sir Robert Peel
Global Moderator

Tom Farnell's recordings wih Fairport eventually saw light of day on The Manor Sessions (Never officially released, but around as a sanctioned bootleg). Shaun Frater only ever played one gig, so unless he's on some obscure track on The Guvnor or something (did he play in the Ethnic Shuffle Orchestra?) there are no recordings.

Hope I've got that right.

i just thought SF didnt count cos he wasnt in fairport

oo, this is more complex than i thought!
should've bought ' a history', but even then it only goes up to 1972..............

According to Patrick Humphries, he did one gig as Fairport. Also confirmed on Fairport's own website.

ok my memory is failing
i am vey old

And to return to Groove's original theme, of bands where the original members have all gone, I'm sure Simon has expressed the hope that Fairport might continue on to future generations. After all, how many original members are on the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra? Or the Black Dyke Mills Band?

ooo i think i nkow, your sir-ship,
1) judy dyble
2)sandy denny
3)simon nicoll, richard thompson, dave ,mattacks, jerry conway, dave pegg, dave mattacks, maartin allcock and elvis costello.
4) elvis presley?

do i pass, nearly?

as an independant scrutineer, my advice would be to go back and double check your answers before owd bob sees them, and fails you


ps its Jerry not Gerry, they are different

Very nearly, Groovieness. 

There were some trick ones there - but it's enough to pass you're eleven plus.  Get to Key Stage whatever by passing today's test:
1.  What was the most influential album of all time, ever, in any genre?  Possibly.
2.  Which band is the odd one out - the Albion Band, Steeleye Span, Dylan Project, Fairport Convention?
3.  How many members of Fairport Convention does it take to change a lightbulb?

And revise question 3 again, Groovy.  :-X

Sir Robert Peel
Invigilator

I know the answer Pe_ely. Please please please. It was that queue out of Crop bottom gate in 1998 where someone sang a very rude version of Steeleye's Hat song and no-one else's specially not the bands you said. It's true innit?

Can I please claim my prize now?

I'd like to borrow the portable commode and paraphernalia includin the secrecy wind-break fer this year's Crop. Oh and could you arrange that 6X pipe from the bar to where I'm sittin.

Thankee old dear.

i feel like a child being very gently taken the piss out of.
its too late for googling and i've had a hard day at work.
i'll do my best.
1) liega and leaf
2) googling as we speak.........
3) you dont have lightbuls in a field, silly-sir-bob!

paper #1, the missing dave, how could i forget swarbs!

paper 2)

steeley span?

am i right now? :-\

I wonder how many different answers we can get for that one...

The Dylan project has never had a female singer, nor was it founded by Ashley Hutchings
Simon Nicol has never been a member of Steeleye Span (I don't think!)

I can't think of odd ones out for Fairport and the Albions but I'm sure they muist exist...

well with my obviously limited knowledge i was working on the premace that the others shared members in common with |FC, but i'm sure some one will be along in a mo to tell me the common denominator to steeleye........

Easy!

Rise Up Like the Sun - Genius!
Rocket Cottage - Genius!
Unhalfbricking - Genius!

And the other ones the Dylan Project  ;)

now you're extracting the juice, arent ya? ;)

Evenin all,

Steelye was founded by Ashley Hutchings, Groover, but he only played on the first two albums

also-we have to be careful about calling the Manor sessions 'officially sanctioned' - I gather that Peggy and Swarb were fairly miffed that they found the light of day - Swarb has complained in interview about not having control over some releases and even hinted that the manor tapes may have been stolen.

Ok drummer queston for the other anoraks - on the 'history' cover Tom Farnell is cited as drummer on the Hen's march,which predated the release of Rosie by a few months, but by the the time Rosie came out DM was cited. Was this just a mistake on the part of Pete Frame, not having up to date info (keeping track of lineups at that time must have quite a task) or did TF play on an earlier version? Anyone know? Anyone care?

Monkers

i dont know if he was cited as playing on the hens march, but he appeared on the photo that was published in "History of"
it might have been re-recorded but sounds the same to me
i have a feeling that the photo was used because they needed a pic of the latest line-up
not because it had anything to do with who actually played on the track
any way he did more gigs than shaun frater

Dave Mattacks has drummed for all except The Dylan Project

tyger has had nowt to do with the dylans?

That's the answer that I'm looking for.  Mind you, Jim's got a degree in FC.  ;D

Peel

Three wasn't it, Doc?
- Hark, The Villiage Wait
- Please To See the King
- Ten Man Mop

herein lies the problem, is anyone really sure??

are there any albums where the line up remained stable for more than a week??

a week is a long time in fairportilics... :P

I've just checked the sleeve notes for Ten Man Mop - Ashley is credited, and pictured with a rake (the type with a pole and tines).

My mistake,

Looks like I'll be resitting Steeleye GSCE - not even sure how to spell it!   

Monkers