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Artists => Fairport Convention => Topic started by: PLW (Peter) on November 16, 2006, 12:45:06 PM



Title: Wat Tyler
Post by: PLW (Peter) on November 16, 2006, 12:45:06 PM
If you want the historical context to the Fairport song, there's a very interesting discussion at

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/

You can download it too.

Be nice to hear the song again live sometime.


Title: Re: Wat Tyler
Post by: Cocker Freeman on November 16, 2006, 04:28:06 PM
Heard it this morning in the car and very interesting it was too.

Recommended "Listen Again".


Title: Re: Wat Tyler
Post by: Albie on November 17, 2006, 10:51:38 AM
I moan about R4 plentifully, but despite its problems of recent times it is still brilliant at its best, and there is nothing else like it.


Title: Re: Wat Tyler
Post by: Paul on November 17, 2006, 12:25:37 PM
About time they redid the song then. One of my favourites from the recent(ish) catalogue.

Paul


Title: Re: Wat Tyler
Post by: davidmjs on November 17, 2006, 12:27:41 PM
About time they redid the song then. One of my favourites from the recent(ish) catalogue.

Paul


I agree...one of the highlights of the Maart era...


Title: Re: Wat Tyler
Post by: Paul on November 17, 2006, 12:30:45 PM
Simon Nicol and Ralph McTell isn't it?

Simon doesn't write many songs, but the few he does are always the best.

Paul


Title: Re: Wat Tyler
Post by: davidmjs on November 17, 2006, 12:36:56 PM
Simon Nicol and Ralph McTell isn't it?

Simon doesn't write many songs, but the few he does are always the best.

You're absolutely right...Don't know why, but that had never registered with me...


Title: Re: Wat Tyler
Post by: JJ (Joanna) on November 17, 2006, 12:51:10 PM
Yes, McTell/Nicol. It's on Gladys' Leap album -   Good programme this. This reminds me we have a Wat Tyler Country Park not too far from here, which for some reason, during Conservative reign had it's name changed, but in recent times it has been changed back again!  ::)

http://www.basildon.gov.uk/80256B880041850A/vWeb/wpEFEN5J3JVU


Title: Re: Wat Tyler
Post by: rachel on November 17, 2006, 05:02:42 PM
This reminds me we have a Wat Tyler Country Park not too far from here, which for some reason, during Conservative reign had it's name changed, but in recent times it has been changed back again!  ::)

http://www.basildon.gov.uk/80256B880041850A/vWeb/wpEFEN5J3JVU

Went to the park on a recent visit down that neck of the woods and bored the kids witless explaining who Wat Tyler was until the penny dropped with them that it was the same Wat Tyler that Fairport sang about. I think they prefer the musical version ::)

rachel


Title: Re: Wat Tyler
Post by: Pat Helms on November 17, 2006, 07:29:33 PM
Having just finished Thomas Costain's THE THREE EDWARDS, perhaps Aliaster Dunn's book about the revolt might be a good way to proceed.  Has anybody here read it yet?  Are there any other books on Richard II and/or the peasant revolt of 1381 that are recommendable?



Title: Re: Wat Tyler
Post by: Stationary M25 Traveller on November 17, 2006, 07:38:38 PM
... and we have the Wat Tyler pub in Dartford.

Fairly old. Not sure if supped ale in it. Believe they claim he did ?

Must remember to look at ye olde signe next time !


Title: Re: Wat Tyler
Post by: Kathryn on November 19, 2006, 08:16:00 PM
Having just finished Thomas Costain's THE THREE EDWARDS, perhaps Aliaster Dunn's book about the revolt might be a good way to proceed.  Has anybody here read it yet?  Are there any other books on Richard II and/or the peasant revolt of 1381 that are recommendable?


     Somewhere I have some Biographies of some of the participants in the events of 1381 but most of those are packed away in anticipation of a move...But...Edward Rutherford's novel "London"  deals with the years 1357 through 1422 in the chapter "London Bridge" and certainly touches on the events. Anya Seton"s "Katherine" deals with the romance between John of Gaunt and Katherine Swynford and deals with much of the same period. J of G was Richard II sometimes(unofficial??) regent. K.S. was G. Chaucer's sister in law so there are some interesting side charactors
I haven't read THE THREE EDWARDS yet but will look out for it.   Thanks, Kathryn