Title: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: gower flower (Shirl) on January 04, 2007, 12:19:17 PM So, who's coming along to this one?
Anyone interested in meeting up for drinkies/food/ Can anyone suggest suitable accommodation for those of us looking to stay overnight? Come on you lot, it's only just over seven weeks away! {:-) Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Mix (Mic) on January 04, 2007, 12:24:45 PM Err?
Yes (thanks Flower xx) Yes (did you ever doubt it) ;) Dunno :-\ Mic - chuffed to bits ;D Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Delfini (Diane) on January 04, 2007, 01:34:55 PM I'm coming :)
:) :) Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: martin driver on January 04, 2007, 01:36:43 PM see you three lovely laydeees there then
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on January 04, 2007, 01:39:37 PM I'll be there too... ;D ;)
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Chris on January 04, 2007, 02:17:40 PM Me too.
The Fairport email list are also having a meet. They have still to decide on a venue. We could end up in the same one! Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: AdrianW on January 04, 2007, 03:08:03 PM could => should IMO.
Several of the people known to be going are in both groups. Now I'd better get going - to work. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Big Dave on January 04, 2007, 03:20:48 PM See ya there!!!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Tasha on January 04, 2007, 04:10:36 PM Drat half-term week and I'm in London! >:(
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: johanna/ulla on January 05, 2007, 02:12:31 PM I´m coming as well {:-)
So where do we meet? Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: AdrianW on January 05, 2007, 04:08:20 PM A list scout is researching pubs in the area this weekend. So, we might have some ideas next week.
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Tasha on January 05, 2007, 04:11:17 PM Didn't folk meet in the Weatherspoons in Paradise Place when Swarbaid was on?
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Chris on January 05, 2007, 06:21:13 PM Ugh1 not that horrible smoky place! I was there for a photo assignment not long ago, and while the beer is good, the atm,osphere decidedly isn't.
I think folks met at the pub on the canal-side, out the back door of the Symphony hall, actually. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: davidmjs on January 05, 2007, 06:26:20 PM Ugh1 not that horrible smoky place! Not for long now! Roll on July.... Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Chris on January 05, 2007, 06:28:55 PM THe nictine must be one inch thick on the walls & carpet - yes, it will be unless they decorate.
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Sir Robert Peel on January 05, 2007, 06:31:19 PM Ugh1 not that horrible smoky place! I was there for a photo assignment not long ago, and while the beer is good, the atm,osphere decidedly isn't. I think folks met at the pub on the canal-side, out the back door of the Symphony hall, actually. Good grief, Chris - have you given up fags or just smoky venues? You're right - we met in the canal-side pub near a bridge leading to the Symphony Hall. Jude sat on my knee (there was no need, but I insisted) and yours truly sat on Nick's knee (there was no need, but I insisted). We shared a few platefuls of nosh, drank a selections of cordials, and waved to Mr. Leslie as he ran across the bridge to avoid someone or other. He may have been trying to avoid us, actually, but you'll be pleased to hear that he was suitably hooted and whistled at. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Chris on January 05, 2007, 06:38:22 PM Well remembered Bob - he *was* running from someone that he'd just avoided in a rather sweet rugby move....
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: gower flower (Shirl) on January 05, 2007, 07:24:53 PM Hurrah for people who know their way around central Brum and the Symphony Hall then ;D
I was at Swarbaid too, as it goes, but I hadn't met any Talkawhilers at that point.....but I digress. Chris, Sir Bob and whoever else knows about these things, can you please keep the rest of us informed of a suitable meeting place on this occasion? Thanks in anticipation :D Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on January 05, 2007, 07:25:50 PM I remember being there too at that meeting .. Ces and Kath were there and MAJ and Puggs and me. I have a photo somewhere ;D If I remember rightly a long lost cousin of mine was also there.. ;)
There was a previous meeting though at another big Brum gig.. that could have been the Wetherspoons. Then two years ago there was the meeting in the pub behind the Alexandra theatre... there were loads of us at that one. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: greglin (Gregg) on January 05, 2007, 11:55:38 PM Errrrrrr - I'm doing Leeds on 21st - anyone going to that???? Or are the gliteratti set for Brum??? Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: the_willing_sinner on January 06, 2007, 08:05:15 PM ooooo - didn't realise you had to to glittery to go to Brum now....
See how they change things when you're not looking Yep - me and my other half are going - Anyone who is researching places to stay can they please tell us about cheap places as well as the more glitzy - I'd prefer to spend my money on beer Gotta be honest - I'll be looking for a smokey pub ;) Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Tasha on January 08, 2007, 11:35:07 AM Well there's the etap hotel 1 Great Colmore Street costs £35 a night for a room that sleeps up to 3 people ;D
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: PLW (Peter) on January 08, 2007, 07:07:39 PM Well there's the etap hotel 1 Great Colmore Street costs £35 a night for a room that sleeps up to 3 people ;D That should do for ten of us then. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: PLW (Peter) on January 08, 2007, 07:08:43 PM Ugh1 not that horrible smoky place! I was there for a photo assignment not long ago, and while the beer is good, the atm,osphere decidedly isn't. I think folks met at the pub on the canal-side, out the back door of the Symphony hall, actually. Could be the Prince of Wales. Could be the Tap and Spile. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Chris on January 08, 2007, 10:10:35 PM The Tap & Spile has been suggested on the email list, but no one has yet responded...
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: PaulT on January 18, 2007, 05:16:03 PM Any more news on a pre-gig venue?
Due to an oversight on my part, I'll have to miss the Tewkesbury gig; I can't get to the Leamington gig, so it looks like BSH for me - and it'll be good to meet up with you all (again). Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: AdrianW on January 19, 2007, 05:32:51 AM Well, the List intends to meet from 17:30 in The Tap and Spile, Gas Street (off Broad Street near the canal, note no food), with a fall back should they still be closed to the Brasshouse on Broad Street. As I see List members less often than TAW members, I'll be there.
Why not tag along? Our common passions usually override any differences. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: greglin (Gregg) on January 19, 2007, 08:18:22 PM Why not tag along? Our common passions usually override any differences. Er.....sounds like the tag line for a swingers club.......................... Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: AdrianW on January 20, 2007, 02:27:39 AM I fear the meet won't be that exciting.
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Neil Morrell on January 20, 2007, 02:33:05 AM Who dares Wins. Whoops, that's another thread entirely!
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: PLW (Peter) on January 24, 2007, 05:29:26 PM Just wandered over to Symphony Hall to buy tickets. Stalls virtually sold out. Back two rows of circle still available. Which means still quite a lot of room in the upper reaches. But still nearly a month to go.
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Chris on January 25, 2007, 08:14:20 AM That's better than last year already!
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: PLW (Peter) on January 25, 2007, 08:51:38 AM That's better than last year already! Added value with Show of Hands I guess, plus all the 40th anniversary publicity. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Chris on January 25, 2007, 11:46:52 AM Yup - that's the way I see it - sensible special guests in a venue bigger than the RAH, I believe.
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Edthefolkie on January 28, 2007, 07:35:27 PM Myself & daughter Leafbyniggle (Ed & Leafy/Elizabeth to some of you lot) are coming.
Tap & Spile still on? Will keep my eye to the screen. 4 or 5 of us were at previous Symphony Hall gig mentioned previously, and managed to go to the wrong boozer. Wetherspoons I think, anyway it was bl**din orrible as Swarb might say. We also went for lunch to another orrible pub on a sort of island in the middle of the canal opposite the Sea Life Centre and there was a bl**din orrible trad jazz band on. Thank God for the Fairports...... By the way, anybody going to see Richard Digance at Coal Aston Village Hall on 24th March? (promoter: Pete Gray, plug plug.) It's my birthday on the 25th and we're flying back from Portugal specially so I can be rude to Richard and blag free drinks. ;D Cheers - Ed Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Captain Sensible on January 30, 2007, 01:16:57 PM I'll be there!
If the venue thingy falls through, we could always gather inside the Symphony Hall - there are plenty of cafes and bars. And you never know - perhaps Show of Hands might busk in the foyer, again. They did that at Swarbaid. Karen Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: simon frisby on January 30, 2007, 08:25:43 PM I will be at the Symphony Hall gig so ill see you all there at whatever venues decided on, hopefully some of you might remember me its been a while since ive been on here, only got a computer at work at the moment >:(
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Big Dave on January 30, 2007, 08:26:40 PM I will be at the Symphony Hall gig so ill see you all there at whatever venues decided on, hopefully some of you might remember me its been a while since ive been on here, only got a computer at work at the moment >:( See you there Simon ;) Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: simon frisby on January 30, 2007, 08:34:59 PM Certainly will BD, its nice to know there will be someone else to stand out in the cold and have a cigarette with. (And maybe a few pints, you never know!!) ;)
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Big Dave on February 08, 2007, 10:15:07 AM Time to bring this back to the top, has the meet up point been finalised yet? Where? When? Who's taking the register? [;-)
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Chris on February 08, 2007, 10:56:39 AM From Lars on the email list.....
"The Tap and Spile in Gas Street, just where the canal and Broad Street meet, not more than a five-minute-walk from the Symphony Hall, around 5.30 pm. If it is closed due to legal reasons we will meet at The Brasshouse on Broad Street, very close the Tap and Spile." They do not do food.... Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Big Dave on February 08, 2007, 02:58:00 PM Cheers Chris, will be there. ;)
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Big Dave on February 16, 2007, 01:12:06 PM Until tomorrow dudes! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Harbottle (Martin) on February 17, 2007, 02:20:52 PM Until tomorrow dudes! ;D ;D Oh no. I went out last night and am suffering from a hangover...! And tonight it's Fairport and Show of Hands... Ouch. My head. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Sir Robert Peel on February 18, 2007, 03:53:20 AM Only for Fairport Convention would I spend two hours on the motorway to Birmingham and two hours back again.
It was worth every mile and minute. You find me sitting on the Ledge (yes, it was really called that) looking onto the stage and upon all the people in the posh seats. I hadn’t got a copy of Sense of Occasion, so I heard the songs for the first time, live. I liked ‘em. Keep on Turning the Wheel, Untouchable, Galileo’s Apology and the superb instrumental ones – I liked ‘em. What was that lovely song that they sang for the encore, I asked the lady sitting next to me? I forgot the name of it because I was so moved by Simon Nicol’s sweet introduction to it. He said that it was Fairport’s gift to their fans of forty years – an expression of their affection. It was marked by the presence of Gerry Conway front of stage, at the microphone, singing his heart out. There was much nose-blowing and gulps from yours truly at this point. ‘Best Wishes’ she replied, patting me on the hand, with an indulgent smile. Only Fairport could be big-hearted enough to think of such a gesture. I thought my heart would burst out of my chest at several points in the set. Dave Pegg described the birth of Polly on the Shore and it was all news to me. I didn’t know that. I thought it was a traditional song. There were more surprises in store, though because this version of the song was better than the original. It was made for Simon Nicol’s voice and he made it his own. A special mention has to be made for Ric Sanders’ fiddle arrangement – it sticks close enough to the original to appeal to us old fogies, but there is something about his understated accompaniment that puts the top hat on it. The Deserter I love this song and will not brook an inferior version! My mouth gaped as Nicol and Pegg sang a duet of unsurpassed melifluousnessosity. I know there’s no such word, but I can’t think of a better term. Stunning. Tam Lin. At this point my heart did indeed seem to explode and I felt impelled to stand up. That would seem to have been the reaction from the rest of the Symphony Hall, too. The place rocked. I’ve never heard it live and it has been a matter of regret for me – but this rendition of that celebrated song will take some beating. (No pressure, Chris While at Cropredy, no pressure!). Chris Leslie shared the vocals with top striker Nicol and Leslie has to be in the top three traditional singers of Great Britain and the Empire. Matty Groves Excuse my French but flippin, blimmin’, crikey, bejasus. This song won the Hancock in the Category of Best Song Ever Bar None and Never to be Bettered. But this Matty put me in a wrist-lock, handcuffed me to the radiator, beat seven bells of whatsit out of my sit-upon, and then threw me down the steps to the cells. (Apologies, everyone. That was a flashback to 1975.) If you haven’t booked your ticket for the Wintour, do so toute suite, if not sooner, just to hear this stonkingly superb Matty. That’s an order. Meet on the Ledge. With Show of Hands next to Ric, with the Titchy Thinny Ladies centre stage and with nerves and emotions a-jangling in the Symphony Hall, we raised our voices in communion. More nose blowing from yours truly, too. Happy birthday, dear Fairport, happy birthday to you. Thank you for the years past and all the pleasure that you have given me. I raise a toast to your future, to Cropredy and beyond. Sir Robert Peel Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: foxylady on February 18, 2007, 09:03:41 AM Only for Fairport Convention would I spend two hours on the motorway to Birmingham and two hours back again. It was worth every mile and minute. You find me sitting on the Ledge (yes, it was really called that) looking onto the stage and upon all the people in the posh seats. I hadn’t got a copy of Sense of Occasion, so I heard the songs for the first time, live. I liked ‘em. Keep on Turning the Wheel, Untouchable, Galileo’s Apology and the superb instrumental ones – I liked ‘em. What was that lovely song that they sang for the encore, I asked the lady sitting next to me? I forgot the name of it because I was so moved by Simon Nicol’s sweet introduction to it. He said that it was Fairport’s gift to their fans of forty years – an expression of their affection. It was marked by the presence of Gerry Conway front of stage, at the microphone, singing his heart out. There was much nose-blowing and gulps from yours truly at this point. ‘Best Wishes’ she replied, patting me on the hand, with an indulgent smile. Only Fairport could be big-hearted enough to think of such a gesture. Sir Robert Peel It was - Best Wishes! written by Steve Ashley, and a lovely song it is too. I have absolutely nothing to add to your comments, except that I agree with you 100% on everything. A wonderful night, a wonderful venue, wonderful music, wonderful musicians. Only criticism is - where on earth did 4 hours disappear to so quickly??? Well worth doing 3 circuits of Brum afterwards trying to find the M5 signs from the Brindley Place Car Park and being quite scared down some side-street - where my friend directed me 'cos she thought it might be a short-cut - by the crowds of rather drunk and scarey people outside some clubs!! Foxylady Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Jan_ on February 18, 2007, 10:11:47 AM Thank you for that excellent review, Sir Robert. How can I possibly bear waiting for another two weeks?
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Angela on February 18, 2007, 10:50:03 AM A stunning review Sir Bob, I think I'm just going to have to book to see them again in what is proving to be a phenomenal tour.
But no mention of those Show of hands chappies...didn't they do anything then? Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on February 18, 2007, 11:01:11 AM Oh YES Steve & Phil were.. well... magnifucent just about covers it I think... ;D
Sir Bob's review is excellent.. thanks your Bobness.. ;D We arrived about 4pm.. first person we saw was Adrian paying his car park money.. then we lost him.Had a wander then found a table in the centre and watched as everyone walked through... loads of TAWs came and joined us.. and chatted.. Nice to see Peggy & Clive Bunker.. photo to follow! Percy Plant walked by too.. (Sorry Sandy!) We were joined by loads more TAWs and it was almost mini Croppersish... The music was bril again.. FC only dropped four of their songs.. and the Tinnies dropped two. Which gave S of H a fair run.. they said how pleased they were to be there. I can't add much more except to say how good it was to meet so many loverly people and chat afterwards and in the interval. PJ was especially chatty and enjoying having his album with Peggy signed. If you haven't been.. then GO... I have a photo to post of Peggy & Clive Bunker.. but our monitor has packed up, currently using an old one and unable to post it.. hopefully later... Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on February 18, 2007, 11:33:00 AM Special mention too to the lovely Chris While who joined Steve & Phil for Dark Fields.. to huge applause!
It was stunning.. I really must search for another word.. i use 'stunning' too much.. but I mean it! Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Kathryn on February 18, 2007, 11:57:28 AM How wonderful to hear all the good reviews of the winter tour! I'm counting down the days to May 27....of course,sadly, we'll have to do without Peggy and Gerry here. I first heard the 3-piece group last Spring and, truth be told we thought about canceling the long trip (its nearly 4and 1/2 hours each way)didn't think it could possibly be as good without the full group.....a happy surprise, although different it was a fantastic concert and the group I was with all agreed it was one the the BEST gigs any of us had had ever attended.
I shall just have to keep on saving my pennies and hope that I can arrange a week off in August!! to enjoy the full force Please keep the reviews/photos coming...to whet the appetite. Thanks, Kathryn Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Chris on February 18, 2007, 12:04:21 PM Simply the best gig that I've witnessed this year - superb lads & ladesses!
As mentioned, Fairport dropped just four numbers last night - Sir Patrick Spens, Crazy Man Michael, Wait for the Tide to Come In & South Dakota to Manchester. TTL changed their set, settling for the more rocky numbers to make an immediate impression & obviosly couldn't do the number with Chris, Ric & Gerry. SoH then proceeded to do a blistering 45 minute set of favourites with Miranda on bass for the whole set & Chris While, between workshops in Kidderminster & Birmingham joining in on Dark Fields. Boy, is Chris looking well! a new hair colour & style & looking incredibly healthy. I think I'm looking forward to Easter Sunday at Albert's village hall gig. During & following the break, I took time out to chat to various guests and look through Tiny Tin Helen's photos of them with Mr Plant.....boy, are they having the time of their lives! These ought to appear soon on the TTL website, hopefully. A Fairport @ 40 DVD is the process of being filmed by Mike Rowbottom, he of the Central TV Unfashionably Fairport programme a few years ago. He's now working as an independent , and hoping that this will see light of day in the autumn, and will cover this year's Fairport, from the start of the year until after Cropredy...some of it *might* also be taken up & shown on the telly.... Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Harbottle (Martin) on February 18, 2007, 12:31:40 PM Simply the best gig that I've witnessed this year - superb lads & ladesses! As mentioned, Fairport dropped just four numbers last night - Sir Patrick Spens, Crazy Man Michael, Wait for the Tide to Come In & South Dakota to Manchester. TTL changed their set, settling for the more rocky numbers to make an immediate impression & obviosly couldn't do the number with Chris, Ric & Gerry. SoH then proceeded to do a blistering 45 minute set of favourites with Miranda on bass for the whole set & Chris While, between workshops in Kidderminster & Birmingham joining in on Dark Fields. Boy, is Chris looking well! a new hair colour & style & looking incredibly healthy. I think I'm looking forward to Easter Sunday at Albert's village hall gig. During & following the break, I took time out to chat to various guests and look through Tiny Tin Helen's photos of them with Mr Plant.....boy, are they having the time of their lives! These ought to appear soon on the TTL website, hopefully. A Fairport @ 40 DVD is the process of being filmed by Mike Rowbottom, he of the Central TV Unfashionably Fairport programme a few years ago. He's now working as an independent , and hoping that this will see light of day in the autumn, and will cover this year's Fairport, from the start of the year until after Cropredy...some of it *might* also be taken up & shown on the telly.... Last night's Brum gig was the best Fairport gig I've seen for years, possibly ever. I love SoH which was a bonus, but Fairport seemed to be firing on all cylinders! Tam Lin was incredible. I enjoyed TTL as well - "we've been Tiny Tin Lady and you've been lots of people!". They certainly added something to the whole night and did a great job on Meet on the Ledge. I like Hungarian Rhapsody. What's to apologise for! The songs from Sense of Occasions sound really good live, and I also picked up the PJ thingy and Peggy album, which has been on heavy rotation all morning. Very good indeed. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Kevin Watkins on February 18, 2007, 01:17:47 PM Great show last night. Thanks to Simon for listening to an earlier post I put up on the Winter Tour thread and playing MG, as well as Widow and Tam Lin.
Show of Hands were superb. My first time seeing them - and they are clearly going to cost me a lot of money as I hunt through the back catalogue. I'm listening to Witness at the moment having picked it up last night. Excellent stuff. Mr Knightley is unfeasibly talented at song writing isn't he? Am I the only one though who was left completely cold by TTL? I'm afraid it was a case of "Glad they only played 4 songs." Sorry. :( Huge hats off to them for being as talented as they are at such an early age. But their songs are just not my scene really. Too much angst, too many lyrics repeated and not enough painting with a softer palette. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Harbottle (Martin) on February 18, 2007, 02:03:03 PM Great show last night. Thanks to Simon for listening to an earlier post I put up on the Winter Tour thread and playing MG, as well as Widow and Tam Lin. Show of Hands were superb. My first time seeing them - and they are clearly going to cost me a lot of money as I hunt through the back catalogue. I'm listening to Witness at the moment having picked it up last night. Excellent stuff. Mr Knightley is unfeasibly talented at song writing isn't he? Am I the only one though who was left completely cold by TTL? I'm afraid it was a case of "Glad they only played 4 songs." Sorry. :( Huge hats off to them for being as talented as they are at such an early age. But their songs are just not my scene really. Too much angst, too many lyrics repeated and not enough painting with a softer palette. I enjoyed TTL, think they have potential. I notice that their whole album is available for free on their website for download as Mp3. How odd. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Woodpecker on February 18, 2007, 03:52:20 PM A terrific evening's entertainment.
We enjoyed TTL much more than expected, after seeing them at Cropredy we thought they were just a bit of a novelty but now think they should go far. Only problem for me is that name; I find it rather creepy! After Show of Hands we felt we would go home happy whatever happened next; again after Cropredy I felt I could take or leave them although the Phil Beer Band is one of my favourite live acts. This set was superb and made full use of the Symphony Hall acoustics. Glad not to have gone home though!! Fairport were outstanding; I won't repeat the comments above but agree with all of them. Apologies for doubting Tam Lin! Who would have thought almost 40 yrs ago that Simon Nicol would have made such an outstandingly moving job of WKWTTG. ( a highlight for me not mentioned yet) Thanks to all for putting in Matty Groves, how do they make it sound so fresh and exciting every time? (professionalism I suppose!) I don't really follow Peggy's explanation of Polly on the Shore: "Swarb and Trevor Lucas writing the words for his tune in '79" after he'd got them 'relaxed'? Martin Carthy and Swarb's Prince Heathen has the same words on side one track three - 'Trad arr Carthy'. Was Peggy more 'relaxed' than Swarb or have I missed something here? My only gripe about the whole evening was probably our fault again: sitting right in front of the PA on Chris's side made Ric almost as inaudible for some songs as we had found him at Cropredy - but then we were sitting in the same place. In fairness he was put into that side's mix more at some times than others. This balance must be quite good for those with centre seats but can be disapointing for others. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: PLW (Peter) on February 18, 2007, 04:20:52 PM SoH then proceeded to do a blistering 45 minute set of favourites with Miranda on bass for the whole set & Chris While, between workshops in Kidderminster & Birmingham joining in on Dark Fields. Ah, that explains why she didn't sing with Fairport then. It seemed a shame that they didn't get her in to do at least one song. A friend of ours who was seeing Fairport for the first time commented that the whole sound was lifted a notch when a female voice came in - and that was just from hearing Tiny Tin Beth sing one verse of MOTL. I'd love to hear Fairport with a female vocalist more often (especially singing WKWTG). Only my opinion though; it would be the icing on the cake. Nonetheless it was a great night. The audience took a while to warm to Fairport I thought, but it built to a rousing finale. Early on I thought Ric was mixed a bit far down (and I was on his side of the auditorium), but it got better and better as the show went on. The best Tam Lin and the best Matty I've heard for years. And of the new stuff, Hawkwood's Army was very strong indeed as was the beautiful slow instrumental. The re-arranged Polly was sensational - Chris's low whistle giving a real boost. But the best was saved for last but one. I don't know what the song's called, but it certainly brought a tear to my eye. As for those people who feel TTL don't cut it - I can't agree. . .two reasons: one is they are about the same age as Fairport were when they started (RT was younger than some of them) and there is a wonderful sense of continuity about the whole process. And my 14-year old daughter was simply inspired by them (just as I was by Fairport at her age). That has to be good. As for SoH. If Steve Knightley were American he'd be Bruce Springsteen. IMHO the best writer of songs about English/British contemporary issues there is. Up there with RT himself. Brilliant. I don't think he should write a song for Fairport, though. I think he should write a whole album. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on February 18, 2007, 04:30:10 PM The song you mention was played just before MOTL.. Best Wishes.. it's gorgeous!
Here's the photo I mentioned earlier.. I hope... Oh dear.. why can't I get into the posting piccies bit?? Peggy specially asked me to post this. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Kevin Watkins on February 18, 2007, 04:56:18 PM As for those people who feel TTL don't cut it - I can't agree. . .two reasons: one is they are about the same age as Fairport were when they started (RT was younger than some of them) and there is a wonderful sense of continuity about the whole process. And my 14-year old daughter was simply inspired by them (just as I was by Fairport at her age). That has to be good. Just to clarify, I don't think TTL don't cut it - as I said hats off to them for being as talented as they are despite being so young. I was just saying that their style wasn't to my taste. It didn't sound folky enough for me. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Sir Robert Peel on February 18, 2007, 05:26:27 PM The song you mention was played just before MOTL.. Best Wishes.. it's gorgeous! Here's the photo I mentioned earlier.. I hope... Oh dear.. why can't I get into the posting piccies bit?? Peggy specially asked me to post this. Go to your message and press 'modify'. Below the nessage box is something saying 'Additional Options' - press it. Can you see 'Attach' and 'browse'? If so, do the business. If not post another message and use the Additional Options button. Peel Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: JohnT on February 18, 2007, 05:46:24 PM I don't really follow Peggy's explanation of Polly on the Shore: "Swarb and Trevor Lucas writing the words for his tune in '79" after he'd got them 'relaxed'? Martin Carthy and Swarb's Prince Heathen has the same words on side one track three - 'Trad arr Carthy'. Was Peggy more 'relaxed' than Swarb or have I missed something here? Apparently (or so I have read), Martin Carthy learnt it from Shirley Collins; who originally learnt it from George 'Pop' Maynard..... John Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on February 18, 2007, 05:49:34 PM Thank you your holy Bobness...
I will try here.. No luck.. all that comes up when I press Additional Options is this... Additional Options... Notify me of replies. Return to this topic. Don't use smileys. Edit: It's because you post too much... You've passed 2000 posts and entered unchartered territory as a FolkCorp Guru 3rd Dan. I've fixed the membergroup now so it should work. Cheers Nick Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Neil on February 18, 2007, 06:17:20 PM On the bottom right there is an option in bold black letters saying
Attach: you then browse to the file on your hard drive and attach it, it's not one of the boxes directly under additional options. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Harbottle (Martin) on February 18, 2007, 06:46:29 PM SoH then proceeded to do a blistering 45 minute set of favourites with Miranda on bass for the whole set & Chris While, between workshops in Kidderminster & Birmingham joining in on Dark Fields. Ah, that explains why she didn't sing with Fairport then. It seemed a shame that they didn't get her in to do at least one song. A friend of ours who was seeing Fairport for the first time commented that the whole sound was lifted a notch when a female voice came in - and that was just from hearing Tiny Tin Beth sing one verse of MOTL. I'd love to hear Fairport with a female vocalist more often (especially singing WKWTG). Only my opinion though; it would be the icing on the cake. Nonetheless it was a great night. The audience took a while to warm to Fairport I thought, but it built to a rousing finale. Early on I thought Ric was mixed a bit far down (and I was on his side of the auditorium), but it got better and better as the show went on. The best Tam Lin and the best Matty I've heard for years. And of the new stuff, Hawkwood's Army was very strong indeed as was the beautiful slow instrumental. The re-arranged Polly was sensational - Chris's low whistle giving a real boost. But the best was saved for last but one. I don't know what the song's called, but it certainly brought a tear to my eye. As for those people who feel TTL don't cut it - I can't agree. . .two reasons: one is they are about the same age as Fairport were when they started (RT was younger than some of them) and there is a wonderful sense of continuity about the whole process. And my 14-year old daughter was simply inspired by them (just as I was by Fairport at her age). That has to be good. As for SoH. If Steve Knightley were American he'd be Bruce Springsteen. IMHO the best writer of songs about English/British contemporary issues there is. Up there with RT himself. Brilliant. I don't think he should write a song for Fairport, though. I think he should write a whole album. We wondered why didn't Miranda join in for "Meet on the Ledge".. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: kaylakins on February 18, 2007, 07:04:30 PM We wondered that too..
It was a fantastic night...my partners first experience of all three groups, and he said the night was a'right...which is a good thing...although he didn't like Fairport as much as SoH or TTL... Did anyone else find the lyrics quite hard to hear on some songs? Overall a wonderful night, and a fantastic incentive (as if I need one!) to go to Cropredy :) Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: JohnT on February 18, 2007, 07:12:13 PM Did anyone else find the lyrics quite hard to hear on some songs? Virtually impossible to hear on many of the 'louder' songs - 'Hawkwood...' being a prime example - at least; ithat's how it was in the second row. Too many echoes bouncing back from the rear of the hall! John Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Angela on February 18, 2007, 07:22:53 PM I hope this is a photo that Amyjen asked me to post
[attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Angela on February 18, 2007, 07:24:04 PM Oooh!! BOGOF!! ;) ;D
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Delfini (Diane) on February 18, 2007, 07:26:43 PM Oooh!! BOGOF!! ;) ;D But neither of them are flashing :( :-X Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on February 18, 2007, 07:28:55 PM Thank you Angela...
That Peggy.. he just flashes TOO fast you know!! Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Chris on February 18, 2007, 07:49:43 PM Too many echoes bouncing back from the rear of the hall! The problem with venues like the Symphony Hall is that the stage is so wide that the sound from the PA will always struggle to reach the first few rows, what with the speakers sat far out on the extremities of the stage. What was needed last night were those small monitor-like speakers stood towards the front centre of the stage, neatly filling in the space left by the sound coming from the main speakers - without which you'd have been listening to the lads monitor mixes. With the extra small 'fill' speakers, they block out the 'bounce' from the reverb of the back of the hall. Which is why, in some similar venues (the Wycombe Swan jumps to mind here), the front rows are often slightly cheaper seats. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: JohnT on February 19, 2007, 08:20:11 AM The problem with venues like the Symphony Hall is that the stage is so wide that the sound from the PA will always struggle to reach the first few rows, what with the speakers sat far out on the extremities of the stage. Many thanks for the very helpful reply Chris - all seems to make excellent sense, and certainly something to bear in mind for the future. Only thing is; if it is all down to physics, and so obvious a problem (and solution) once you know about it - should something not have been done about it beforehand? After all - we certainly didn't get discounted tickets! John Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Big Dave on February 19, 2007, 08:53:13 AM Just to add my two pence worth, not going to add to the reviews since people have reviewed the gig in far more elequent terms than I ever could.
A fantastic night that I don't think could have been bettered. ;D Great to meet up again with everybody and thanks for the company. [;-) ;D Will try to post more later if time permits. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Scrump on February 19, 2007, 09:52:59 AM Just to add my 5p's worth: we had a great evening (indeed, day!) at Brum on Saturday, and having last seen Fairport only in December (albeit minus Peggy), were much impressed by the almost completely new set. They were all on top form, and we liked the new songs, especially Untouchable from the new album.
Being firm SOH fans too, we really enjoyed their set (with our absolute favourite female singer Chris While joining them for Dark Fields being the icing on the cake); and as for TTL, they rocked! This still very young band has surely got a big future. A pity we didn't get to meet any of you, although we saw a few Fairport T shirts around beforehand. Also we disappeared afterwards pretty quickly afterwards so we didn't get a chance to thank the lads - so I'll do it here: thanks for a great evening guys! Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Big Dave on February 19, 2007, 10:06:50 AM Matty Groves Excuse my French but flippin, blimmin’, crikey, bejasus. This song won the Hancock in the Category of Best Song Ever Bar None and Never to be Bettered. But this Matty put me in a wrist-lock, handcuffed me to the radiator, beat seven bells of whatsit out of my sit-upon, and then threw me down the steps to the cells. (Apologies, everyone. That was a flashback to 1975.) If you haven’t booked your ticket for the Wintour, do so toute suite, if not sooner, just to hear this stonkingly superb Matty. That’s an order. Meet on the Ledge. With Show of Hands next to Ric, with the Titchy Thinny Ladies centre stage and with nerves and emotions a-jangling in the Symphony Hall, we raised our voices in communion. More nose blowing from yours truly, too. Happy birthday, dear Fairport, happy birthday to you. Thank you for the years past and all the pleasure that you have given me. I raise a toast to your future, to Cropredy and beyond. Sir Robert Peel Well put Sir Bob, couldn't have put it better myself! ;) Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Dr Clive on February 19, 2007, 11:25:24 AM Most of it has already been said (thanks to Sir Bob and all).
Bex and I trundled up to Brum Saturday afternoon and found our hotel in Edgbaston. We then cabbed it in to town for something to eat before the concert. I have to say that that part of Birmingham has changed out of all recognition since I was last there - I spent six very happy years at Aston (Uni, that is, not Villa) from 1965, indeed I was so happy that I still sometimes have dreams about it. The music scene back then was great, with some fantastic bands on the college circuit - Geno Washington, Arthur Brown, Mike Cotton... Also saw John Mayall (with Mick Taylor) at the Old Town Hall back then. Anyway, we had some sustenance, then went on to the Symphony Hall. What a great evening! We liked TTL - maybe a little too West Coast for some (Wilson Phillips, anyone?), and SoH were just brilliant - as someone else has already suggested in this thread, they were worth the price of admission alone. Had only heard them once before (BBC Folk Awards last year?), but was blown away by them. Nice to have the opportunity to pass on these sentiments to the guys themselves afterwards. Then came FC! Again, as mentioned elsewhere, we had a slight problem with the sound (middle of row three), but it's nice to be able to see the facial expressions during the set. We really enjoyed the set, the choice of older songs was spot-on. However (here comes the controversial bit), whilst I think Chris is a great chap (a real gent, in fact), and has written some good songs, I feel that of late his output has been over-dominant in the band's output, with some fairly ordinary songs - OTNH doesn't get played very often around here because of the relative "single note" impression given by CL's contribution. Having said all that, we have never been disappointed overall with an FC concert, and Saturday was no exception. As everyone else has mentioned, the Steve Ashley song is just brilliant - IMHO one of the very best things the band has ever done, and I'm sure destined to become a perennial favourite and a fixture in the set. The boys were surrounded by crowds of fans after the gig, so we didn't get to talk to them (except that Bex got her usual kiss from Ric!) - we'll hopefully get to talk to them at St Albans in a couple of weeks' time. We did manage to apologise to PJ for a little incident at St Albans last year - Bex mistook PJ for a cloakroom attendant! I gather he's considering a third career... DC Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: martin driver on February 19, 2007, 11:32:12 AM It was a fantastic night in Brum and nice to meet so many friends and fellow Faiporters there. Nothing to add to all the splendid reviews but I do have a couple of pics.
1, Puggs with crew members of the Black Pig 2, Tiny Tin Lady are amazed by the size of Symphony Hall, didn't they do well! [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Karen on February 19, 2007, 11:39:32 AM Yep. That was the best Fairport gig I've seen in ages.
TTL were so good - I really enjoyed them and thought they shook the place up. SoH are a class act, anyway. They did what we've come to expect from them - sing some terrific songs with gusto and big hearts. I thought I was going to be thrown out of my seat by the roar from the audience singing along to 'Haul Away Joe'. Well sung, people! 'Polly on the Shore' and 'Tam Lin' were heart-stopping. We had some good anecdotes and asides from the chaps. And it wouldn't be a Fairport gig if someone in the audience didn't shout 'Oh get on with it!' to Ric ;D ;D Big Dave was in the front row - so biggish that he had to be moved to the side. Chris Bates snapped anything that moved, unobstrusively. I saw Gower Flower and Delfini in the middle of the Hall, flicking missiles (was it popcorn?) at Adrian. They hit his fez on several occasions - good shot, ladies! Jennifer was freaking out on some sort of biscuity cakey thing and Pugwash showed me his cannon. It was a pleasure to meet you all and to have such good company on an unforgettable night. Karen Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Harbottle (Martin) on February 19, 2007, 12:08:11 PM Interesting to see comments on the sound. I've been to Symphony a lot, and I've always found the sound to be very very echoey - last time was Fairport with All About Eve, and it was terrible... hard to hear any vocals. Last year for Jethro Tull's tour, I chose to go down to Cheltenham instead as I've never found the Symphony good for rock/pop bands.
We were sitting in the middle right at the back of the stalls for Saturday, and the sound was very good this time. Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on February 19, 2007, 12:35:44 PM Jennifer was freaking out on some sort of biscuity cakey thing and Pugwash showed me his cannon. It was a pleasure to meet you all and to have such good company on an unforgettable night. Karen Who is this Jennifer?? :-X Puggs NEVER shows ME his cannon!!! ;) Thanks for the photo Martin :-* Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Anji on February 19, 2007, 12:38:00 PM Jennifer was freaking out on some sort of biscuity cakey thing and Pugwash showed me his cannon. It was a pleasure to meet you all and to have such good company on an unforgettable night. Karen Puggs NEVER shows ME his cannon!!! ;) I think it's a type of camera. I think. :) Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on February 19, 2007, 12:40:17 PM Oh thank you Anji. I will have to ask him... ;D ;)
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Cocker Freeman on February 19, 2007, 12:46:08 PM Has he never shown you his lens then?
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Pugwash on February 19, 2007, 12:53:40 PM Has he never shown you his lens then? Something should always be held in reserve, young Cockle ^-^ Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: David W on February 19, 2007, 01:17:11 PM I'm still in shock at the picture showing Puggs with what looks suspiciously like a cup of coffee in front of him - at a Fairport gig as well. Please tell me it was hiding a large tot of rum or my image of Puggs as a rumbustuous salty seadog will be shattered ;)
Jackdaw Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: martin driver on February 19, 2007, 01:29:07 PM You can relax Jackdaw, the mug was filled with grog. As Pugwash and his crew were seated in the sumptuously posh surroundings of the Symphony hall, first mate Jenny insisted that the jolly tar drank from the mug instead of quaffing directly from the bottle.
Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Big Dave on February 19, 2007, 02:28:32 PM You can relax Jackdaw, the mug was filled with grog. As Pugwash and his crew were seated in the sumptuously posh surroundings of the Symphony hall, first mate Jenny insisted that the jolly tar drank from the mug instead of quaffing directly from the bottle. I know what was in the mug, but I cannot reveal what it was as I would get keel hauled by the skipper................. :o Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Angela on February 19, 2007, 05:01:40 PM You can relax Jackdaw, the mug was filled with grog. As Pugwash and his crew were seated in the sumptuously posh surroundings of the Symphony hall, first mate Jenny insisted that the jolly tar drank from the mug instead of quaffing directly from the bottle. I know what was in the mug, but I cannot reveal what it was as I would get keel hauled by the skipper................. :o When I first saw that photo I just knew there was something missing...then it came to me...I have never seen Dave without a pint in front of him, what on earth was wrong Dave? glad the tea cup in front of Puggs has been explained though, was getting very worried ;) ;D Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Big Dave on February 20, 2007, 10:52:58 AM You can relax Jackdaw, the mug was filled with grog. As Pugwash and his crew were seated in the sumptuously posh surroundings of the Symphony hall, first mate Jenny insisted that the jolly tar drank from the mug instead of quaffing directly from the bottle. I know what was in the mug, but I cannot reveal what it was as I would get keel hauled by the skipper................. :o When I first saw that photo I just knew there was something missing...then it came to me...I have never seen Dave without a pint in front of him, what on earth was wrong Dave? glad the tea cup in front of Puggs has been explained though, was getting very worried ;) ;D I was just preparing myself Angela, the beer came shortly after in the pub around the corner!! Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: johanna/ulla on February 21, 2007, 11:07:50 AM Yes, it was a fantastic night and we enjoyed every moment.
To find the place was a bit of an adventure, because GPS brought us to an industrial estate in West Bromley :o The girlies (TTL) were better then I expected them to be, but I did like Show of Hands not too much (boring, I thought :-\) and I said to Clive that I will be at the bar during their show at Cropredy. The Fairport gig was just perfect, I thought. Robert Plant was sitting with us and he said the same. Clive did not drum along as he usually does, what means that he was really fascinated by the show. When Gerry did his special thing on the encore Clive was totally shocked. After the gig Gerry and Clive started to plan a special appearance for Cropredy: The Drummers choir with Gerry, DM and Clive ;D It was good to see so many Talkawhilers there. :-* Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Chris on February 21, 2007, 01:13:10 PM Yes, it was a fantastic night and we enjoyed every moment. To find the place was a bit of an adventure, because GPS brought us to an industrial estate in West Bromley :o I guess you mean West Bromwich?.....otherwise I would chuck the SatNav out of the car, it's obviously useless. Mind You, West Brom is miles away too.... Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: johanna/ulla on February 22, 2007, 09:04:54 AM Yes, it was a fantastic night and we enjoyed every moment. To find the place was a bit of an adventure, because GPS brought us to an industrial estate in West Bromley :o I guess you mean West Bromwich?.....otherwise I would chuck the SatNav out of the car, it's obviously useless. Mind You, West Brom is miles away too.... Ok, your right, Mr. Bates. But it took us 40 minutes from there to the city centre :-\ Title: Re: Symphony Hall - 17th February 2007 Post by: Pugwash on February 22, 2007, 05:15:34 PM You can relax Jackdaw, the mug was filled with grog. As Pugwash and his crew were seated in the sumptuously posh surroundings of the Symphony hall, first mate Jenny insisted that the jolly tar drank from the mug instead of quaffing directly from the bottle. Arrrhhh thankee that Mr Driver. This image took years of careful craftin an the thought of losin it through one pic, well I might 'ave bin forced to relaunch meself like clive :-[ |