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Red and Gold. Great tune, well sung, magnificently played. The words send shivers down the spine. I've never heard it played at Cropredy as the sun goes down but hope to.

And yet...on a day when there would be a lot of activity about, and his fellow villagers a bit apprehensive to say the least, Will doesn't protect the crops or drive cows to the byre. He performs a bit of gentle topiary on a hedge and cuts his finger. He then hides under the hedge and watches the two armies knock five bells out of each other. Then amid the screams of the dying, all he thinks about is his bloody finger. And wakes up dreaming of the slaughter, but is once again relieved that it's only his finger. Get a grip Will...

That bloke at the Hiring Fair was rubbish, wasn't he. But he still got what he wanted in the end. Maybe there's a lesson in that  ;)

But he was the strong (I swung harder with my scythe) silent (few words between us spoke) type. The ones us girls are always being told to "watch" ....  :o

Can't help feeling Wat Tyler should have been a bit more politically aware, he should have seen what was coming to him to be honest! (Great idea for a thread)

Does it not seem that Matty Groves deserved all he got. Bad enough he was caught with her ladyship but did he have to be so damn cocky about it ;) Poor Lord Arnold (or whatever)

rachel

I feel a bit sorry for Matty.  I think he was in a no-win situation.  If he had snubbed her ladyship he would have paid.  As it was, he had a bit of fun before he copped it.

Serves him right for going to sleep afterwards ;D

Matty groves goes to show how devious and whimsical women reallyare.

although I do love them as much as the next..........misogynist

But why didn't he go for the head shot? You can do a lot of damage with a good beaten sword.

Oh yes. I forgot about the bloke at the hiring fair. These are Victorian agricultural labourers. "My trembling fingers touched her hand" indeed. Jane Austen is more raunchy...

And old Tam Lin made a bit of a meal of the escape plan didn't he.

He got out though!

Although he did have to do a top gear analysis of the horses first!

I aint riding on no brown steed!
 

Prince Albert's response to the guy in The Deserter has always worried me...

Here's an unreliable guy who legs it at every available opportunity. Alright, he shouldn't have been in the army in the first place, but still, he wants out. Even though he is treated badly by everyone; betrayed by true loves, flogged, etc then threatened with death, these things haven't deterred him from trying to run away.

Now here's the dodgy bit. Prince Albert comes along and says "Let Him Free!" "He'll make a fine soldier for his Queen and Country!"

No!

No he won't!

Albert, sort yourself out. He's run away twice! He is a lousy soldier and he'll go on being a lousy soldier!

Set him free by all means. Let him be a gardener or something. Give him a job where other people don't have to rely on him, just don't make him a soldier for crying out loud!

Cheers

Nick

This only goes to prove the old maxim that someone with pointy metal jewellery through unmentionable parts of anatomy almost NEVER makes correct, or even coherent, decisions.

And what about poor old Sir Patrick Spens?  

That King - great judge of character, isn't he?  Not only doesn't he know who his best sailors are (doh! how about someone in the fleet?) but listens to a "bonny boy".  Now they know all the best sailors don't they!  On top of that, Sir Patrick admits he's not a good sailor but then compounds this by saying he never intends to be one.  And still the King sends him.

Prat.

And then there's Jack Orion - for all his reputed talent on the violin, it seems the man has few morals.  Admittedly his manservant Tom did manage to shag some bit of posh instead of him, but I think stringing the wee lad up is just a little OTT.

Jules

If only "For you have two long beaten swords, and I have a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world" had scanned, the outcome would have been very different (and the song shorter).



Great idea for a thread.....

I thought that was the point? Politics and all that, and poor Sir Pat was the fall guy?

Simon's very words at St Albans last week.

- But I'm very glad it's back in the repertoir!

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In addition to having limited personnel selection skills, the privateer's captain does not have much common sense when it comes to sea battle strategy: one of His Majesty's finest frigates is overrunning you by a considerable margin and lays into you with considerably better firepower. Resistance is futile.

And Polly (on the shore, you think) is not really going to care, is she?

Great idea for a thread this is  ;D
I said long ago that Will Timms was a wuss, a few drops of the red stuff and 'bang' out he goes (good job they don't do childberth, he'd never have recovered)  ::)

Tan Lin, Hmm? now it's been mentioned, all this if you rescue me you will love your child stuff, huh! who thinks they're the be all and all then eh? As for Janet, very responsible  ::)  don't go near the woods says Dad, so not only does she leg it straight off for the trees, but she hoiks up her garments as well!!

This is fun ;D

Michael's girlfriend: "You carry on like that, you're gonna kill me.."

Michael:(ranting, raving, beating at the four walls) "Take that, you raven-like creature"

Michael's girlfriend: "aarrrgh"

(but then he was crazy)

[glad I started this, didn't mean it to carry on quite like this!]

How come that Michael bloke is still about, did he get an ABSO an a slap on the wrist.

the knife amesty didn't work did it

I agree about Polly.  No way will she be on the shore - she'd have been breaking plenty of other hearts before he got halfway to Freeport!

Jules

What about the bloke in Hexhamshire Lass? Over the Sadie skye and over the moss and the mire, I want to see my lass that lives in Hexhamshire Look mate, IT'S ONLY A BIT OF MUD!!!!! If he was really that desperate, a bit of mud wouldn't shouldn't put him off.

Babcome Lee would be a lot shorter if they had used a nice modern lethal injection as well.

Or Miss Keyes had kept a walther in the bedside cabinet

And as for that daughter of the widow of Westmorland.. was she daft or what??

Fancy letting that fine young man in the Grenadier Guards do that to her.. twice!

Percy's Song - Hire a Lawyer you idiot!

Bonny Black Hare - why run out of bullets after one shot when you could use a machine gun?

I might be missing the point of that one

I don't care how cold it is, I've no sympathy for the naked highwayman.
He's a footpad and a ne'erdowell.

Ah yes, Percy's song. You hire a lawyer and lodge an appeal. You don't just go and see the judge in his chambers, annoy him so much by whinging on about the wind and the rain so that he throws you out, and then spend all night strumming your guitar.

Bugger off to sea for a bit, grow a beard and suddenly your one true love hasn't an idea who you are, spends all her time wandering down by Claudy Banks and then starts pouring her heart out to the first beardy sailor she comes across. Short sighted, or what? A lucky coincidence I calls it.
And as for those interned lads who spent their time roving the highways of Northamptonshire robbing the rich and the poor while the man who gave them away is merely bound for Australia? These days an angry mob would have split their time between waving placards outside his house, bricking his windows, and feeding chips to their menfolk through the gates of the prison.
London Danny? Bewildered wailings decrying a folk Jolene. Front him up man, front him up!
But, essentially, yes, fainting at the sight of blood? And My Own Dear Blood at that. You wouldn't catch Terry Butcher trying that on.

And what about Adieu Adieu. The plonker uses "being bought up in a tender state" and "bad company did me entice" as excuses for multiple robbery - well that's not going to get any sympathy is it? Sure, the distribution of wealth wasn't ideal in them days, and the young lad could have come up with loads of good sociopolitical reasons to let him off with just some community service or an ASBO. But no, the idiot just brags about his conquests, whinges a lot, and, just to make sure he really annoys everyone, says "Willow day, willow day" after every utterance.

And that Poor Ditching Boy deserves to be poor if he's going to agree to not being paid.  I suggest that he insists on a proper employment contract in future.

Jules

Oh yes on Claudy Banks, now just what was he up to eh? He just happened to be wandering around the docks being all in diguse!!!

What I feel we really need to know here is what happened? He tells her that her laddy has snuffed it, watches her all in despair and tearing out her hair, then.... when he's seen enough.... it's Yoohoo darlin' it's me I ain't deaded after all (just having a bit of a larf gal). Was it really 'happy ever after', or did she do what many a red-blooded woman would do and leave him writhing in agony hanging on to his vitals ;D

I feel we need to know these things ;)

that's the only way to restore virginity - or so I'm told!

Most of the girls round where I grew up had had several grenadier guards too many for that to work...

And back to Tam Lin, what makes him such a catch anyway - if he goes around falling off his horse he can't be much of a knight!