TalkAwhile - The Folk Corporation Forum

Some nice pics of the 'Leige and Lief lineup in this month's 'Word' magazine (spotted in my dentist's waiting room...)
 ;D

You obviously go to a higher class of dentist than I....4 year old copies of Country Life are more common there!  They are indeed, as you rightly state, lovely pics....

obvoiusly not nhs then ::)

My NHS dentist's waiting room usually has a copy of the 'Word' in it as well.

Probably some very cool dentists about. Unless it's the same one of course?

You have a dentist - in Oxford :o :o :o

What is this dentist controversy? :o
It is NHS (wll, I pay NHS rates I think :o
It's in Headington Jude so it couldn't possibly be yours could it?
They always stock 'The Word' (good mag) but I never have time to finsh the aricles before Dr. Claw
gets in my mouth (ooh ) ::)
Slippy

My dentist has gone all private and there is a 93 year waiting list for NHS dnetsists in Oxford, thats what  >:(

I know its off topic but it makes me so angry.

Anyway to take it back on topic I will now go to buy the Word. ;D

No, mine's in Bicester.......... and it's up 3 flights of stairs.... :o

What is it, then, about dentists and Word magazine?

Is there some sort of strange pattern emerging? :o

And you're right! They never let you finish the article you're reading....

And Sandra it's worth checking quite frequently with the NHS dentists, they often open their books to new patients every now and again

Returning to the subject - I don't know if it has been mentioned elsewhere but there is a four pager (pages 56 - 59 for those who want a swift peek in WH Smiths)on Liege and Lief  in the latest edition of Uncut(September). Great double page full colour photo of Fairport in the garden of Farley House.

Dentists and the like can subscribe to various magazines at a group rate if you like. Mine always has the lastest Word and other lifestyle magazines - golf, food, houses abroad.

Why did I get called to see the hygienist when I was halfway through the Richard Thompson article yet never when I'm left with one about buying houses in Croatia?

That's one of life's never-to-be-solved mysteries WW.... ::)

Take the mag in with you, then sit and finish the article afterwards...

SmartarseofnorthNotts!  ;) ;D

Absolutely - when I wanted to register with a new dentist the receptionist said they wouldn't be taking any new NHS patients until "after February" (2005). So I said "well in that case can I make an appointment for March, please?" (this being November 2004) Happily, she did this! And for tooth-hurty in the afternoon!

My dentist has television in his waiting room - you can't get away from daytime property and antique shows anywhere now!

Ours has a disturbing kids video of a REAL chimp learning about brushing his teeth and going to the dentist! It's scary!

Um... Enough dentists, surely?

Has anybody mentioned this yet:

New issue of Record Collector (September) has an article about FC by Kingsley Abbott and an interview with Jude.

Yes, yes, quite. Looks like I will have to get all of these! Don't usually get magazines.

Which is what I did!

I was considering it a plan everytime as I'm not one who likes to be kept waiting.

And as for the enough dentists going off on tangents is one of the more interesting aspects of this board.

Tangents are good. Drifts should be tolerated and are usually a reflection on how interesting the topic under discussion.

IN general, drifts and off-topiness aren't accepted on the main boards, please hive off the discussion into the Arms if it looks as though it is continuing.

Ah I knew it was coming out, I did the interview last year and I can't remember what I said.

I'll have to go on a hunt for a copy..... :D

Only slightly off - did anyone already comment on the strange crit of the Red Lion in the Saturday Indy? Included as one of '101 Star Bars'!!! Does it change in character dramatically for the rest of the year? I now have a vision of my Cropredy only existing in the collective imagination of 20,000 ageing hippies...

Can you find this on their online site?

Sept Uncut joins the party... 4-page article on L&L with many of the same pics.  Haven't flicked through Mojo yet...

The Grauniad has this today...

http://music.guardian.co.uk/folk/story/0,,2140316,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=39

Love the story about paying for the milk bill!

Yes, a new one to me, but the anticipation is really starting to get me...

I like the bit where RT says he won't need to rehearse the album because it's all "locked in" in mind.

Jules

It's well worth picking the paper up, if you can find it.

Especially as today's Graun also has an article on Anne Briggs (which mentions the songs that Sandy and RT wrote about her).

Have a look too at the September issue of The Wire (a rarity in dentists' waiting rooms, I admit) - quite an intelligent article about British folk rock.

Got it.. no chance to read it yet.. too busy packing up the kitchen sink as we set off tomorrow morning!!!

 WHOOPPEEEE!!!!

Is Beeswing really about Anne Briggs? Was she really a laundry girl? Did she really marry a man called Romany Brown? Hard weather and hard booze? Or is it just about someone a bit like her? The latter I think.

" ... a singer named Chris While ... "
 ???
Does this imply that the writer never heard of her? Or is he being ironically hyperbolic, i.e., I don't need to say anything about her since you all know her?

I noticed that.  I think we can safely assume the former!

Chris While has the voice (and the balls) of an angel, in my book.

But I expect she's just under the radar for all but a few journalists writing in the national press.

Which says quite a lot about the quality and "width" of their horizon. Pity they get paid for such work.

Peter

Good job they didn't get a plumber named Chris While.

Anyway the article was written by a journalist named. . .oh, er, hang on, I've forgotten.

I think that's unfair...it's a good article.  Journalists can't be expected to know everything, can they...? The fact is a decent editor would have removed about two words from the offensive sentence to make it sound much more gentle and informative.

Having re-read what I actually think is a wonderful article, it's fair to say that John Harris refers to a "violin player named Dave Swarbrick" and "a drummer named Dave Mattacks". It's just his way of putting things.

It's great to see Fairport past and present being taken so seriously and discussed so intelligently. A full-page article in The Guardian - most bands could only dream of it.

Yes, I'm with PLW on this. Although John Harris is only in his thirties and his sympathies seem to lie mainly with BritPop (the subject of one of his books), he writes intelligently about music recorded before he was thought of. Let's recall a couple of years back he devoted two pages (!) of the Guardian to Sandy:
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/fridayreview/story/0,12102,1476963,00.html

I remember reading that sandy article. Nice one. Thanks for posting the link.

S.O.

A nice piece in this Saturday's Indy: with the proviso that the writer seems to know the location of a 'beer tent'  ???
A superb bar to end all bars indeed there is, to say nothing of the excellent Pavillion, the 2 lovely lively pubs, -but have I missed the beer tent selling Tanglefoot? ?- Well no, I certainly haven't missed it!  ;)

I was reading through the Box of Peggs book last night and came across a newspaper article about Fairport from 1970 (page 10 if anyone is interested) The first thing that struck me was that they listed the line up and what they played, put then in the pictures showed SN on bass, RT on mando. But then I read it. There were soooo many mistakes, it was unbelieveable. Fairport form in 66, 'David Swarbrick now on lead vocals, the first time a male has done the singing since the groups inception' and then the writer talks about off shoots of the band - 'Tyger Hutchins blues band Steel Eye Span'  :o That was pretty bad article

Has she got a brother called Walker?

So who was the first male *lead* on vocals, Ollie?
And you would have seen Simon on bass at the warm-up last night, so that was possible back then too.

Iain Matthews?  ???

Yeah, like Skirky said, Iain Matthews. Also, there is no captions on the pics, so it was unclear who was who. And now looking at it, it wasn't a newspaper article, it was from the programme of the Bath Music Festival, 1970

Well, we're all too sophisticated here to make snap judgments. We leave that to the journos. Here's what the man himself says about Anne Briggs:

'... I loved her singing and I've certainly got her records. I wrote "Beeswing" about that time, about the '60s and people like Anne and Vashti Bunyan, and about the time when people were beginning to drop out of conventional society and cities and go rambling' (RT in booklet notes to Anne Briggs: A Collection).

 

A couple of relevant snippets from the current edition of Record Collector:

Jude on her leaving the band:


Simon on the 'vocal attack' strategy after Sandy left:

That seems to suggest that no one was taking 'lead' at the time. So, depending on the journos visit, he could have thought that anyone was lead.

btw - re Ian Matthews - he was only in the band during Sandy's time, so would never have been taking lead vocals. He also left in January 1969, and wouldn't have featured post-Sandy.

I personally think that Jude's voice blended perfectly with Iain's, better than Sandy's certianly. They both have that sort of (please don't take this the wrond way Jude) poshness to them. I'd love to hear Jude sing Fotheringay or WKWTTG as I think she'd do them justise. I don't know why they don't use Jude as Sandy's stand in anyway...can't wait to hear Jude and IM singing together again. Oh and Chris, IM was on the first album and did the majority of the singing

Maybe so, but was only 'in the band' from November 1967.

Iain was in the band during my time, he was the first 'proper' male lead singer.

Before then, Simon and Richard would share the vocals with me.

Hope this clarifies things. :D

Iain really was great with FC.  I would go so far as to say the best male singer FC ever had.  ;D

I agree...Hope Iain will be joining the band on Saturday at some point. Did he show up at warm-up gigs, anyone?

And to be pedantic -don't say you've not asked for it Chris  ;)- he was the sole, gigging lead singer for several weeks before Sandy joined FC. They supposedly got brassed off with people asking where the girl singer was after Jude's departure that they decided to audition for one! Hence Sandy asking Fairport to audition for her....!!

IMHO, the Denny/Matthews vocal blend is one of the FC's career highlights...That bit on I'll Keep It With Mine ("the conductor...still stuck on the line") is sublime  :)

where do i start here,its just so wrong

Not according to the FC Fan Site.

If that's wrong, I'll happily sit corrected.

Iain Matthews changed his name from MacDonald to Matthews after the 1st album. Still the same bloke.

Yes, I know that Ollie - I've known Fairport longer than you've been alive....

e was on the ist lp "Fairport Convention" with Jude
read judes post

Indeed it did. Ollie needs to read the whole thread before quoting from a post that Jude had sorted, and I ackonwledged.

C'mon people, let it go.....

5 star review of Friday's 'L  &L' set in today's guardian  (I'm having trouble with the link..)
Slippy

Here is the link was about to post it when I read the above post!

http://music.guardian.co.uk/live/story/0,,2147388,00.html

This is all good stuff.  Very exiting!!!  :D :D  .......  Your turn now Ollie .....

Don't think this link has been posted before: http://www.bbc.co.uk/oxford/content/articles/2007/08/13/cropredy_review07.shtml

23,000 ??

James from the fairport list has uploaded Thames Valley Tonight with a SN interview

http://www.mcvax.org/~jhma/fairport/cropredy07%20-%20thames%20valley%20tonight.mov

"Friday was for the folk music fundamentalists, with a run through of Fairport’s Conventions “Liege and Lief”"
I bet they didn't say that in 1969 ...  ::)

I was told that there were 17,000 paying punters plus 5,000 others(?!) including traders stewards and artistes.

I've always been told that the capacity is 20k and a sell out constitutes 17k sales plus 3k 'others'.  Who knows...

I see Olly the dolly on that video clip! ;D

A shade under 17,000 sales, licenced limit 19,999.