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I've found some more good stuff on myspace ... it makes a change from YouTube!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1187711471&n=2

Ann

Well spotted, Ann.  Haven't seen a few of those yet.  Thank you, dear lady.  I kiss your hand and bow deeply. :-*

Sir Robert Peel

Wow , I hadn't seen it. All these odd videos should be put on one official dvd so I can purchase them.

Fat chance. >:( The cost of anyone other than the German TV company/copyright owners putting this out would be astronomical. i.e. financially unviable for a "cult" artist like Sandy...unless some big-bucks organisation wants to put it together. Some various artists compilation DVDs have come out from this programme ('Beat Club') in the past so...that may be a possibility one day. In the meantime, just be grateful this stuff is still there to see (unlike the bloody Beeb and their sorry archive...a library of blunders  >:( :'( ).

The other things that are turning up on MySpace and YouTube are clips from the amateur video shot at a Fairport gig at Birmingham University in 1974. Has there ever been any discussion of getting a professional transfer of this to DVD? The clips that were used in It All Comes Round Again and Sandy Denny Under Review, though still very grainy, are better than all this bootleg material. Given that film of Sandy with Fairport is otherwise non-existent, I'm sure people would be happy to stump up (on a subscription basis?) to get as good a copy as could be made - I know I would. Apparently, Dave Pegg owns the copyright. The set list was something like this: The Brilliancy Medley & Cherokee Shuffle, Solo, Like An Old Fashioned Waltz, Ballad of Ned Kelly, The Hexamshire Lass, Fiddlestix, John The Gun, Down In The Flood, Instrumental Medley, Who Knows Where The Time Goes?

Anyone know where john the gun might be. I would buy the dvd if it was available.

i can send out a few copies of the DVD to those who will spread it around.not very good quality but worth a look..................

thanks to those who replied.i have one more here,first person to PM me can have it.

have made copies for all those who asked before this message,three o'clock Wednesday.those who have not already done so please send your address.
thanks
Bill

Too late. Buggrit :(

you're in luck,i've got one blank left ! send address please.

might i suggest that the lucky recipients follow billys lead and offer it for swapsies

Ooo err! Only just seen this! Will IM you billy.......

I was at Brum University in the late 70's and the guild of students had an enthusiastic if basic TV station. I know the Fairport gig in 1978 (?) was taped (Tipplers Tales lineup). I have wondered ever since what happened to the material.

Jim, I wouldn't mind queuing for the Sandy stuff.

I checked with Peggy about the 1974 Brum footage. Although the clip used in Sandy Denny Under Review has "copyright Dave Pegg" slapped across it, Dave says he doesn't in fact own this material. He has a rough copy which he has duped a couple of times for fans. He would like to see it improved and released maybe as a charity benefit. Any ideas let him know.

Seems to me the challenge is to find out whether the original still exists and who has it. The production is credited to "Pete Keel". Pete, are you out there? Do you know you're sitting on (probably) the only film in existence of FC with their most famous vocalist?  

The "Solo" footage, which is better picture quality, could come from a different source - maybe nearer to the original. Also detached somehow from the rest of the film is this 24 second clip of "Matty Groves":
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=2566311

Well, as a current Brum student, Guild TV (as it is now called) does hold an archive of material.   How far it stretches back I have absolutely no idea, and indeed have no idea whether the footage would be there.  But might be worth a look, will see if it's possible for me to have a root around when I go back.

Or maybe as something for the 30th Anniversairy of her death.

I would love to see that gig again. I knew a couple of blokes in guild TV, I think they didn't actually have a video recorder, they hired a machine for the day, replayed the tape once in the Union building the next day, then took the recorder back to the shop. I don't know what format it was in, though I'm sure the quality wasn't that good. I know I saw them twice that day, once in the Union and once at Barbarella's, a sophisticated local nightspot.

I imagine the 1974 Brum master is on reel to reel helical scan EAIJ (I think it's called)

 - Or just possibly U-Matic (dirty great 3/4 inch cassettes). The black and whiteness makes me favour the former. There are plenty of working U-matic recorders around but reel to reel...dunno!

The prehistory of video is interesting and sometimes hilarious! See Philips N1500 below, the first errrr.."domestic" recorder. So domestic it used a cooker timer which meant you usually missed half the programme (or overdid the turkey).

Apparently lots of schools rushed to buy them but then found that chalk dust didn't do too much for the works. I remember a hi-fi dealer acquaintance (John Kirk - advert) slinging several of them under his workbench around 1982 because he was regularly asked to repair them by the usual cheapskates who'd picked them up....cheap.

Sorry about that...what the hell does it have to do with lovely Sandy? not a lot!        

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And if you think the last one was prehistoric try this....called VERA by the BBC. Apparently the reels rotated at about 2000 rpm so you can imagine what happened when the tape snapped!  ;D ;D

Mind you the quality was better than YouTube....
 



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I remember we had a video recorder like that when I was at school. I don't think it even had a timer, though, 'cos the French master used to have to go back into school in the evenings to record the sections about France in Kenneth Clark's Civilisation. (Or maybe that's just what he told his wife...)

Anyway. A friend over on the SandyDennyList poses this intriguing question:

"I remember in the Richard Thompson fanzine Hokey Pokey some 10 or more years ago, a mention of a full colour 1974 Fairport Convention New Zealand concert found in NZ's TV archives over there. Then it was never mentioned again.

Anyone know more about this?"

Did our Brum friends ever get a chance to investigate whether the 1974 footage still exists?

Another question. Fairport (incl Sandy) appeared on Dutch television on 16 Jan 1975 (KRO TV - the Van Speyk Show). I assume that footage has been searched for and not found anywhere?