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Title: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jan_ on January 22, 2008, 02:05:56 PM Now available at the webshop on the FC site. As well as 17 tracks from last year's Cropredy, there are plenty of extras by way of interviews and tours. Costs £20. I've just ordered a copy. :)
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: davidmjs on January 22, 2008, 03:24:42 PM Thanks. Here's the link for anyone feeling particularly lazy!
http://www.fairportconvention.com/general_news.php Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: simon frisby on January 22, 2008, 03:31:11 PM It seems to have a rather random track listing doesnt it! Considering its a 40th anniversary Cropredy DVD not having MOTL seems rather remiss. There also seems to be a bias towards post Gladys material which, again, seems strange for a 40th anniversary product. And as Mattys track 8 out os 17 i suspect much quick editing and talking heads.
I will still get it, but i get the impression it could of been better. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: David W on January 22, 2008, 03:35:44 PM I know there are all sorts of issues with rights etc but its a real shame there isn't anything from the Friday night LnL set.
Not sure I'll bother with this one until I can get it cheap on Amazon. DavidW Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on January 22, 2008, 03:47:21 PM Looks fab to me.. can't wait!!
;D ;D Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: gower flower (Shirl) on January 22, 2008, 04:21:47 PM Do you think it is likely to available on the merch table on the wintour? ::) {:-)
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Penguin (Dunc) on January 22, 2008, 04:23:42 PM Musical Highs Two thirds of Fairport's set (I thought they got bogged down in the middle) The above was my "review" of Fairport's performance at Cropredy - It looks like they agreed with me ;), as the majority of the tracks on the DVD come from either the beginning or the end of the set - 'I'm Already There' being the only exception. Guess this mean that I'll be buying it at the Huddersfield gig then! ;D Cheers Dunc Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Nick the Stick on January 22, 2008, 05:11:59 PM Shame if M O T L isn't on it, that bit of film thay showed with it got me quite sniffy.
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Big Dave on January 22, 2008, 05:15:58 PM Do you think it is likely to available on the merch table on the wintour? ::) {:-) Think Chris B said that was the intention. Hope so. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Shane (Skirky) on January 22, 2008, 07:01:03 PM I'm getting one just to see if Ric's interview with my mate Big Paul in The Red Lion on friday is in.
"We don't usually go over to the field till a bit later" "Oh, when do you usually get over to the field then?" "Sunday". ;D Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Ollie on January 22, 2008, 07:31:51 PM This is a bit weird. No Swarb, no MOTL, RT only once, 1 Sandy Song, only 4 songs pre-85. What happened to the Full House mini-set? Doctor of Physick would have been nice. I think one or two tracks per line up would have been good.
I'll get it anyway, but, Mike, if your still here, could you explain to us your choice of tracks, because I'm a bit bemused :-\ Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on January 22, 2008, 07:40:22 PM Maybe it was something to do with permissions and finance...??
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: GubGub (Al) on January 22, 2008, 08:25:58 PM I think the clue might be in the title. Fairport @ Forty, not Fairport A Celebration of the Last 40 Years.
Fairport@Forty means the current band and I suspect that a decision has been made that this is what they have chosen to celebrate. They want to live in the present not be in thrall to the past. It must be galling for them when we all keep clamouring to see the guys who walked away rather than the ones who are still there keeping the flame alive. More Swarb/RT means less Chris/Ric. More Ashley means less Peggy. Is that really fair to them? It certainly would not represent Fairport@Forty We may want to wallow in nostalgia (& I include myself in this. I certainly would have preferred a fuller portrait of Cropredy 07) but clearly the band do not and I guess that is fair enough. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: koho (Koen) on January 22, 2008, 08:29:58 PM I agree it seems that, sadly, what I assumed were the most exciting bits of FC @ Cropredy 2007 have been omitted very carefully here. I don't mean that as a dig to current Fairport material; it's just that there were certain bits and pieces and persons onstage which made me tear out my hair -check my avatar what missing Cropredy does to "veterans" - for not having been able to be there (instead of it being a more conventional FC gig) - but I sure read about the wonderful bits of last years' Cropredy, and I was happy that there'd be a Crop '07 DVD.
I assume it's a case of whatever powers that be, preventing certain performances to be put on the DVD, rather than blame it on compiler or band. I'm sure I will buy it eventually, but what I assumed would be something I would rush out and buy immediately ... turns out to be something I'll just put somewhere in the back of my mind; to score on Amazon sometime when it's way (way) less than 20 quid. No Swarb! But well, we do get the Tommy Connolly Dancers ::) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jim on January 22, 2008, 08:51:36 PM sorry, but the tracklisting has left me less than whelmed :(
all the brilliance of the full house set, and the other oldies left on the cutting room floor >:( i'll buy it, but its not the memorial to a brilliant weekend it should have been another own goal for whatever reason, and im certain that there is a reason for the non appearance of all that stuff thank god for the bootleggers , at least ive got it all on cd and flac and mp3 Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Keith on January 22, 2008, 08:56:35 PM I'm glad I recorded much of it myself as I agree with Jim et al. I know they don't want to look like their creative force is spent by being compared to some of the brilliance missed out (One More Chance being an obvious example) but, sad to say, going on the last offering it looks as though any creative force is being severely stifled in favour of MOR.
It would be nice to know how good the interviews and other extras (if any) are. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Pat Helms on January 22, 2008, 09:17:25 PM Its hard to imagine they'd shelve the complete L&L set. I wouldn't count out another offering down the road.
Oh...........and Elvis is still alive too! Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Ollie on January 22, 2008, 10:38:54 PM Surely if they wanted Fairport @ Forty, wouldn't filming a Wintour gig have been a better opition? Because, to be honest, a lot of people come to Cropredy to see the past band members, and go to tour gigs to see the current line up.
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: jude on January 22, 2008, 10:45:39 PM I am pretty sure that the video is about Fairport over the course of their 40th year, hence Mike Rowbottom's shadowing of the band all last year.
And that there are very good reasons why it is what it is. If this can be explained then I am sure it will be. If not, well, that's the way things are. ::) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jules Gray on January 23, 2008, 08:59:24 AM It'll be legal reasons and the like. The concert has been butchered as a result. Such a shame. I believe I'm going to have to pass. :(
Jules Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: fstix (Michael) on January 23, 2008, 09:22:48 AM I like the cover. :)
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Nick the Stick on January 23, 2008, 10:22:49 AM I'd like to agree about if it's about F C at 40 then film a wintour gig. Croppers is about much more than the current line up. If it wasn't I'd have stopped going years ago, and I've been to every one since 1981.
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Mortimer on January 23, 2008, 11:54:49 AM Perhaps I am a money/fame orientated person but after your first sell out Cropredy, if you were in the current band the thing you would want most is a DVD that reflects how good Cropredy is (so it is a sell out again)and, and this is the money grabbing bit, appeals to the most attendees (nostalgia grabbers though we are) people.
I was born in the year Simon left FC, first got into them around the 20th anniversary and have seen the live band about 20 times since. I personally prefer the older albums (stopped buying after 5 seasons) but love the current band live. I can, you see, live in a parallel universe and like both without the older weakening the current, as I assume most of use on the board, and therefore the target audience to buy the DVD do. I will not be purchasing. Good job I have the BBC broadcast of L&L on the IPOD to remind me how good a Cropredy 2007 was. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: PLW (Peter) on January 23, 2008, 12:27:43 PM You know what? I am astonished.
I simply can't believe how many people are laying into a DVD about ten seconds after its been announced and before anyone - anyone at all! - has had a chance to watch it or listen to it. It reminds me of Mary Whitehouse - remember her? - who used to condemn everything on TV without ever actually seeing it. Nobody posting here yet has the remotest idea why the director has chosen to put the tracks in the order they are in, what the interviews contain and how they relate to the musical material, what the quality of the performances are like, how the mix sounds and so on and so on. . . ( Oh and another thing, I'm just recovering from the idea that anyone in the folk music world can be a "money-grabber"!!! As Cocker Freeman might say, "Bastards, all of em!") Give me strength. I'm off to grab some money off a passing folk musiician. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Goaty on January 23, 2008, 12:32:23 PM Agreed. I ordered it yesterday and will comment on it once I've watched it. Twice.
I'm off to grab some money off a passing folk musiician. Good luck, though you'll probably get more by stealing their instruments and selling them on ebay ;) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: grahamsomers on January 23, 2008, 12:33:11 PM and all for only TWENTY quid !
I expect I will buy it, BUT...seems a hell of a lot for a single dvd to me especially when the really memorable bits of the weekend seem to have been omitted NO SWARB ! apparently!, NO Full house set... In retrospect, if its more or less another live set from the current band (I have enough of those already) with a few guests , annoyingly broken up by talking heads, it seems rather a lot for ......lego matty. Im really dissapointed, Ive been looking forward to this for months, and it sounds very average(relative to what it might have been i.e. a celebration of forty years rather than a current snapshot after forty years). Did we ever getter to the bottom of why L&L was never filmed by the way, given smooth ops say it wasnt their decision - I'd pay 20 quid for that I think I'll wait and see what the feedback is from those that are going to buy it now, and wait for it to appear in HMVs bargain bin... a VERY fed up Graham Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Delfini (Diane) on January 23, 2008, 01:03:42 PM I'll buy it on the WinTour and watch it, probably with a glass or two of something. ;D ;)
Then I'll post what I think, for what it's worth. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: PL (Peter) on January 23, 2008, 01:07:42 PM Quote You know what? I am astonished. I simply can't believe how many people are laying into a DVD about ten seconds after its been announced and before anyone - anyone at all! - has had a chance to watch it or listen to it. It reminds me of Mary Whitehouse - remember her? - who used to condemn everything on TV without ever actually seeing it. Nobody posting here yet has the remotest idea why the director has chosen to put the tracks in the order they are in, what the interviews contain and how they relate to the musical material, what the quality of the performances are like, how the mix sounds and so on and so on. . . Some of the truest words being said. Fully agree. Ordered mine - will see, what it is like, maybe will try to understand why it is this way and then compare it with my own memories. After that, who knows, I might venture into public again with some comments. Peter Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Tim Fletcher on January 23, 2008, 01:14:26 PM and all for only TWENTY quid ! I expect I will buy it, BUT...seems a hell of a lot for a single dvd to me A quick skim through DVDs on Amazon shows that quite a lot are around £20 RRP. If the likes of Take That can charge that much for a DVD with their potential sales it makes it a bit easier to see why FC have to charge something similar. I'm looking on this as a memento rather than a faithful record of Cropredy and I'll buy it on the tour thus ensuring that the cash gets back to the band (I hope). Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Mortimer on January 23, 2008, 01:17:49 PM I am not sure anyone is laying into the DVD without having seen it. I am sure it is a well put together piece of work. I am also not sure your Mary Whitehouse reference is exactly correct. I was at Cropredy, so have seen/heard the material being included (at least the music part). I agree I have not scene the interviews but I would never buy a music DVD for the interviews.
The point I, and I assume others are making is that we are disappointed that fantastic performances we did witness are not being included. This is a natural reaction after such a great event and not some knee jerk reaction to a DVD we have not seen. My point about the target audience is, however, I think valid. A DVD about FC is only ever likely to appeal to a small group i.e. the people who already like them (i.e. us). Therefore, if you want to shift units, you mass appeal. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: simon frisby on January 23, 2008, 01:41:42 PM As ive often said the current line up is my fave so i dont begrudge them having the majority of the show, but on the other hand surely it would of been good to show the concert in a linear manner so that they could show this is what we were and this is what we are NOW. They could show they dont have to live in the shadows of the greats like Swarb, Ian, Ashley and RT and are still a viable working band not some caricature of them selves.
Progress in music is a wonderful thing and fairport with this DVD could of proved they have progressed and not stagnated at 1975 like the Rolling Stone Et Al have. As i said the current line up is my fave so i will still buy it and watch it to death, it just seems like a missed opportunity on a few levels. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: grahamsomers on January 23, 2008, 02:24:15 PM and all for only TWENTY quid ! I expect I will buy it, BUT...seems a hell of a lot for a single dvd to me A quick skim through DVDs on Amazon shows that quite a lot are around £20 RRP. If the likes of Take That can charge that much for a DVD with their potential sales it makes it a bit easier to see why FC have to charge something similar. I'm looking on this as a memento rather than a faithful record of Cropredy and I'll buy it on the tour thus ensuring that the cash gets back to the band (I hope). hmm a quick skim round hmv shows you can pick up your fave take that dvds for under a tenner, my last purchase in store, stackridge, wasn't much over a tenner....bluhorses online £12. I'd expect to get the best prices by buying at source, and reducing overheads ? unless it was something out of the ordinary (musically I mean obviously ;-) ) maybe Im just a tight yorkshireman! Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: PLW (Peter) on January 23, 2008, 02:28:54 PM I am not sure anyone is laying into the DVD without having seen it. Yes they are. In droves. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Big Dave on January 23, 2008, 02:33:36 PM I am coming round to the way of thinking in some previous replies, this Fairport at 40 and not a 40 years of Fairport documentary. If the band wanted to the latter then that could probably be easily achieved, also it would be quite straight forward to do a this is our festival type doc to show off Cropredy. I will purchase the DVD for the initial reason.
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jim on January 23, 2008, 02:34:03 PM I am not sure anyone is laying into the DVD without having seen it. Yes they are. In droves. well i didnt think i was laying into it, its just another opportunity missed i ve got a fair idea what the dvd will look like as i was there and the 3 1/2 hour set has been butchered cutting out many of the highlights so its not as if i'm griping from a point of total ignorance i'll still buy it, and thats what they'll be banking on Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: David W on January 23, 2008, 02:38:56 PM I am not sure anyone is laying into the DVD without having seen it. Yes they are. In droves. Hang on a tick - most of the people, myself included, who have made comments about the track selection of the DVD were at Cropredy, experienced the night and know what they had hoped to see on the DVD in terms of music, guests etc. If the DVD does not reflect those hopes, with regards to the music choices, people are entitled to express their disappointment. This is not laying into the DVD willy nilly without having seen it - it is saying that it does not seem to fully represent the wonderful night of music many of us were lucky enough to enjoy. We all know that there will be many reasons as to the choices made - licensing agreements, recording quality, atrist agreement and so forth. However, these things don't mean we can't be disappointed at what seems to be a lost opportunity to provide Fairport fans with a lasting reminder of that Cropredy night in all its splendour. It'll be fine, we know that, but without some of the pieces mentioned here, the Full House line up for instance, it won't be great. David W Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jules Gray on January 23, 2008, 03:16:40 PM I am not sure anyone is laying into the DVD without having seen it. Yes they are. In droves. For sure I'm slamming the contents - or rather the lack of them. :( Jules Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: MarkC on January 23, 2008, 04:07:33 PM Personally, I am a huge fan of the current band. Nothing would be less interesting to me than yet another recycling of 40 year old material. I mean, OK, that stuff is great...but it's been done to death, IMHO.
Just my 2 cents. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Dr Monk on January 23, 2008, 04:13:30 PM Permissions? maybe. Rights? maybe.
The idea of focusing on fairport as a working band today rather than past glories has a certain logic, though most of us would probably liek to see a mixture of both. But perhaps at the end of the day Fairport are a working band needing to pay the bills and current members need to earn their crust as far as royalties go - not suggesting this as greedy, just necessary. Perhaps a micture of all of the above. But I can see why people are a bit disappointed. I missed croppers last year and would have liked to have seen some of the older stuff in a format other than phonepics on youtube Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Neil67 on January 23, 2008, 04:17:43 PM To pick up on Jude's point earlier,I was under the impression that the DVD would be an overview of Fairport's 40th year and would include footage and interviews and documentary bits from the Wintour onwards-including,of course,Cropredy.Although it is not totally clear from FC's website,the comments above suggest that the DVD is based on selected portions of the Saturday night Cropredy set only,together with interviews given that weekend.If that's the case,whilst I'm sure it will be marvellous its perhaps a bit of a wasted opportunity.Maybe the full year retrospective is still to come-but I doubt that.I'm looking forward to seeing it whatever it is as I have not known the band to stick their name to tripe and I'm sure they're not going to start now! Looking forward to getting my copy signed at The Winding Wheel.
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: jude on January 23, 2008, 05:45:31 PM If you look at the comments here
http://www.fairportconvention.com/general_news.php#news1 Gareth has answered two of the questions that you've all been asking, I think Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Nick on January 23, 2008, 05:56:13 PM Quote The L&L line-up agreed the BBC could record and broadcast one airing of their performance but any further release would be down to that particular band, not Fairport Convention. Is an interesting comment and understandable in the context of this DVD. More intriguingly though, it still keeps open the possibility of further release of L&L ... :) Cheers Nick Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: koho (Koen) on January 23, 2008, 05:59:54 PM Fair enough, it's down to earlier mentioned Powers That Be, not so much the current band nor the compiler. I believe there was also someone (RT's management? I think? Or am I talking bollox?) who back in 1997 veto'd the filming of the 30th Anniversary at Cropredy 1997 which was a shame - but at least the Cropredy Box 3CD set emerged from that so there was a (wonderful) document of that edition, which apparently we won't have this time.
I can then only assume that the band had little choice - no DVD at all or a DVD which at least (I hope) does give a proper taste of Cropredy 2007 even though it meant some mouthwatering performances had to be left off. Damn Powers That Be. I still won't pay 20 quid - ever - for any DVD. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Mindwarper on January 23, 2008, 06:43:34 PM When I look at a live cd/dvd, I look for my favorite songs or rarities. Stuff that is rarely played or songs I want to hear. If there is enough that interests me, I buy it. Next I hope that the sound quality is good. My next hope is that there is no interviews, especially talking over songs. Next I hope the songs are complete. This DVD seems not to have an inspired set list according to my priorities.
I have worked with bands on music dvds. You can not make all the fans or even band members happy. You just do the best with what you've got. I'm sure this was a project of love that was not made just for profit. We obviously care about FC . The film maker decided interviews were important. It is probably low on some of our want list. It focuses on the newer material. A FC at forty, not an overview. Again, some people want this. The website says this is a must for FC fans. Unfortunately, it is not a must for me. It doesn't have what I am interested in. I might get it eventually, but after seeing the setlist, it is no longer a must have. I do want a DVD of the odd bits of FC. All the tv appearances and promo bits. Something like the airring cupboard tapes, but on DVD. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Big Dave on January 23, 2008, 07:05:44 PM I actually have a much more personal reason for wanting this DVD.
As the majority of you will recall I spent last Cropredy with my leg in a non - weight bearing plaster cast and using crutches. The prospect of negoiating the field on the crutches was too daunting so I listened to the Saturday night set from the tent. I was able to hear pretty clearly and jolly good it sounded too. The opportunity to get a least a glimpse of what it must have been like visually is very important to me, so purchasing the DVD is a must - despite not it not being the full set. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: DaviD J (was geriatrix) on January 23, 2008, 07:13:14 PM hmm a quick skim round hmv shows you can pick up your fave take that dvds for under a tenner, my last purchase in store, stackridge, wasn't much over a tenner....bluhorses online £12. I'd expect to get the best prices by buying at source, and reducing overheads ? unless it was something out of the ordinary (musically I mean obviously ;-) ) maybe Im just a tight yorkshireman! Bluehorses is a double DVD set. Nuffsaid. Kicks ass too! Why haven't they ever been on at Cropredy? Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jules Gray on January 24, 2008, 09:48:37 AM Putting 2 and 2 together it's becoming apparent that Swarb has refused to be featured in the DVD. He's the only member not featured at all. And if you take out all the songs that Swarb played on, you take out all of Liege & Lief and most of the other appearances by the old guard. I'm sure he has his reasons, but it has taken most of the filling out of the sandwich. This should have been a major release, but that's simply not to be.
Jules Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: grahamsomers on January 24, 2008, 10:30:26 AM Putting 2 and 2 together it's becoming apparent that Swarb has refused to be featured in the DVD. He's the only member not featured at all. And if you take out all the songs that Swarb played on, you take out all of Liege & Lief and most of the other appearances by the old guard. I'm sure he has his reasons, but it has taken most of the filling out of the sandwich. This should have been a major release, but that's simply not to be. Jules bah, just stole my thunder, I logged in to surmise that as well. Fairynuff, its Swarbs prerogative if it is indeed his decision, can't argue with that. cant understand why though he played well, and i can't have been the only one with the lump in the throat at simons intro to him on friday. It was great to see him back steamin'. Still begs the question about the appalling way this has been marketed on the site though bigging up beth gibbins, tommy connolly et al , and a few videos that worked brilliantly (in context !) ...(no disrespect intended) in order to persuade us to shell out 20 quid - which I still maintain is over the odds for a single disc live gig offering. (admittedly I probably still will bbut it...when i calm down, and get over the initial dissapointment) Perhaps they'll be a 'director's cut' 'special edition' 'fiddle shaped box set' with Swarb lovingly restored at some point..which I'd gladly tip over 20 quid for .....if it included friday and saturday... I did notice that the blurb has subsequently been 'massaged' to introduce new extras , which sound a bit more interesting.....although still not the fiddlemeister.......come on mate , why not ? Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: GubGub (Al) on January 24, 2008, 10:45:05 AM Putting 2 and 2 together it's becoming apparent that Swarb has refused to be featured in the DVD. He's the only member not featured at all. And if you take out all the songs that Swarb played on, you take out all of Liege & Lief and most of the other appearances by the old guard. I'm sure he has his reasons, but it has taken most of the filling out of the sandwich. This should have been a major release, but that's simply not to be. Jules This seems to hit the nail on the head. What a shame! We can only hope for maybe some further iteration down the line. Maybe a CD of the Saturday night (assuming the Friday is out of the question. Personally I would pay almost any amount for One More Chance alone as it had me in tears on the night. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jules Gray on January 24, 2008, 10:50:58 AM We can only hope for maybe some further iteration down the line. Maybe a CD of the Saturday night (assuming the Friday is out of the question. Personally I would pay almost any amount for One More Chance alone as it had me in tears on the night. If this theory is correct then if Swarb later relents it would allow any of the material to be released, including Friday. Jules Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Barry on January 24, 2008, 10:54:13 AM You will all be able to ask him soon. Swarb is our Talk Awhile guest very soon.
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: GubGub (Al) on January 24, 2008, 11:04:26 AM You will all be able to ask him soon. Swarb is our Talk Awhile guest very soon. It occurs to me that there may be another culprit here. DM? It would have much the same effect. This is all conjecture of course. The veto could have arisen from a number of places including members of the current line up. Who knows? Let's just hope that it doesn't preclude some sort of further release later on. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: koho (Koen) on January 24, 2008, 11:05:11 AM "with guest appearances by Richard Thompson, Ashley Hutchings, Judy Dyble, Dave Mattacks, Maart Allcock, Iain Matthews". If I look at the tracklist, the first three and the latter, possibly also DM, are only on 1 song - Time Will Show The Wiser ...? Indeed it's one of the few, maybe the only, "old line up" song done at Cropredy which doesn't feature Swarb.
Wonder if it's indeed him who objected - on paper it indeed seems like it. If so he'll have his reasons, but as a fan I'll throw a very, very big >:( in anyway to whoever crippled what should have been a classic double DVD, even if it was Swarb. :'( I'll give this one a miss for now, sorry. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: koho (Koen) on January 24, 2008, 11:06:31 AM It occurs to me that there may be another culprit here. DM? It would have much the same effect. He's on Time Will Show The Wiser, I would assume? Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: GubGub (Al) on January 24, 2008, 11:32:18 AM It occurs to me that there may be another culprit here. DM? It would have much the same effect. He's on Time Will Show The Wiser, I would assume? Oops, yes sorry, I had overlooked the reference to DM. I can't now remember what he played on during the Saturday performance. I can't see why it would be "Time..." as it was a pre DM track. Red & Gold or Surfeit of Lampreys possibly. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jim on January 24, 2008, 11:34:42 AM DM did most of the 1st half of the show with Gez in a grateful dead 2 drummer stylee
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: jude on January 24, 2008, 11:40:28 AM Yes, Dave M played on 'Time will show the wiser...' and so did Gerry ;D
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jules Gray on January 24, 2008, 11:41:45 AM as a fan I'll throw a very, very big >:( in anyway to whoever crippled what should have been a classic double DVD, even if it was Swarb. :'( Swarb's going to be a guest on this forum soon. I know it goes without saying as we're a very civilised bunch, but please let's not wade in with big boots regarding this matter when he's our guest. Jules Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: GubGub (Al) on January 24, 2008, 11:42:44 AM Yes, Dave M played on 'Time will show the wiser...' and so did Gerry ;D Thanks Jude. Clearly my memory is not what it used to be. Actually I can't remember what it used to be! ;D Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: jude on January 24, 2008, 11:43:37 AM as a fan I'll throw a very, very big >:( in anyway to whoever crippled what should have been a classic double DVD, even if it was Swarb. :'( Swarb's going to be a guest on this forum soon. I know it goes without saying as we're a very civilised bunch, but please let's not wade in with big boots regarding this matter when he's our guest. Jules Thankyou Jukes, very well said :) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jules Gray on January 24, 2008, 11:51:09 AM Thankyou Jukes, very well said :) Thanks, Jude, but very poor spelling! ;D ;) Jules Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: jude on January 24, 2008, 11:53:18 AM Thankyou Jukes, very well said :) Thanks, Jude, but very poor spelling! ;D ;) Jules nothing to do with me, it's the stupid illiterate computer keyboard.... Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jules Gray on January 24, 2008, 12:00:41 PM nothing to do with me, it's the stupid illiterate computer keyboard.... LOL Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Ollie on January 25, 2008, 09:48:41 PM Has anyone noticed that Vo Fletcher and the Tommy Connolly Dancers are 'featured' yet there is no mention of 'Just Dandy', the track they both played on.
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Shane (Skirky) on January 27, 2008, 01:20:13 AM Notwithstanding the promised delights of (say) Beth Gibbins, The Tommy Connolly Dancers and Vo Fletcher, all of whom are, I'm sure, delightful people but none of whom would be in my top ten when it comes to a list of people I'd like to see on a Fairport Convention DVD, it does strike me that we seem to be discussing what they could have put out, rather than what they actually have done. On reflection, I think that "Fairport at Forty", if it were advertised as being a forthcoming broadcast on BBC4 would be receiving the sorts of "must see"s and "don't miss this"s that I remember from that time they were on Radio 4 at lunchtime on a tuesday a couple of years ago. Yes, twenty quid is pushing it for a DVD, but it is called "Fairport at Forty", not "Fairport Convention and guests live at Cropredy 2007". I'd personally like a full surround sound version of RT's set and cutaways to Maart's accompaniament (sp?) of Tam Lin at the bar on mobile glockenspiel, but then I'd like a lot of things.
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Ancient Muse (Andy) on January 27, 2008, 09:47:06 AM I have just caught up with this thread and have to say I am extremely disappointed that Swarb doesn't appear to be in any of the DVD. He was such a big part of the whole Cropredy experience last summer, and such a big part of the whole Fairport sound in the "old days" it just doesn't seem fair or right!
It can't possibly be vanity - he just doesn't seem the type (none of Fairport do for that matter!), and I can't imagine that he was in any way unsatisfied with his performance - the way he makes that fiddle sing is just magical! Is there another DVD in the pipeline? I shall just have to see if the library will buy it before I decide whether or not to part with my money for something that can only tell part of the story of the last 40 years. Unchuffed! >:( Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Chris on January 27, 2008, 07:40:54 PM Do you think it is likely to available on the merch table on the wintour? ::) {:-) Think Chris B said that was the intention. Hope so. Well....they'd be very silly not to, wouldn't they?.... ;D Quote I think the clue might be in the title. Fairport @ Forty, not Fairport A Celebration of the Last 40 Years. and im certain that there is a reason for the non appearance of all that stuff The answer is likely above your quote,Jim..... that bit of film thay showed with it got me quite sniffy. Check out the extras section......all three backdrop films are included....including Lego Matty. (oh, and my handiwork on the wrapper.....) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jim G on January 28, 2008, 12:17:57 AM Has anyone actually bought this DVD yet and can write us a review? Seems there is a lot of talk about what seems to be missing off the DVD rather than the quality (or otherwise) of what's on it.
I will be purchasing this on the 2nd Feb at Tunbridge to see if all my neck stretching and waving arms was worthwhile on Saturday night when ever the camera projected itself out into the audience. Rather looking forward to reliving a few of those great moments from last August a wonderful time despite having a bleeding virus and a temperature of 101 on the Thursday. Bet they don't show film of the Thursday traffic queues for the campsite ! Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Keith E Rice on January 28, 2008, 06:11:30 AM No Swarb? What about no JD?!?!?!?!?
One of the most gifted guitarists ever and a very worthy sparring partner for RT. (If only they'd put more rehearsal into their occasional pairings...!) I find it insulting (to me, can't comment on JD) that this man who was a prime mover in keeping the FC name alive (after Simon had walked away!!!!) and very viable is not represented on any vid of the 40th. (Bad enough that his role on the night was relatively diminished!) If there's a representative vid of the 40th coming out, I'll definitely buy it. I intend attending at least one date on this Wintour - Fairport post-'GLADYS' lack genius but they are a great working band. However, I won't be buying 'FAIRPORT@FORTY'. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: davidmjs on January 28, 2008, 06:51:40 AM I would have thought the obvious reason(s) for non-appearances are a) contractual and b) the raw materials not existing or not being of decent enough quality. I for one am looking forward to a proper review, before I consider buying...
FWIW, i do find some of the comments in this thread a tad over-emotional to say the least! Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Dr Monk on January 28, 2008, 11:26:16 AM Those EMI multi million pound golden handcuff details can be a pain, but understandable - they have to sell some records after Robbie Williams' last one flopped. ;)
Seriously though, in these youtube days artists have little control over what is in the public domain and, though that makes it a bit suprising that an official product and its attendant revenue might be held back, if there are quality issues or contractual issues it's an artist right to decline it. That doesn't stop it being disappointing and ,yes, at times provocative of an emotive response from fans who might have been expecting something a bit different though. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: martin driver on January 28, 2008, 12:26:32 PM I have had the pleasure of watching the Fairport@forty DVD and have to say I really enjoyed it
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Delfini (Diane) on January 28, 2008, 01:05:19 PM I have had the pleasure of watching the Fairport@forty DVD and have to say I really enjoyed it Thanks Martin ;D I'm looking forward to buying my copy on the 6th ;D Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on January 28, 2008, 01:57:36 PM Great to hear that Martin.. not that I was in any doubt.. I will buy mine at the first gig opportunity and can't wait!!
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: johanna/ulla on January 28, 2008, 02:46:36 PM I will get mine next Monday ;D
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Bob Barrows on January 28, 2008, 04:42:00 PM I found this comment by Dave Meehan over on the FC website very persuasive (I've taken the liberty of editing his comment to make it a little more readable):
Quote Dear All, As Neil [actually, Mike] Caddick has said, there are a lot of costs involved. RIO for the band is very low on a project like this, music DVD sales are poor even for th biggest of bands. Robbie Williams sells around 30 thousand DVD units, U2 maybe 50 /60 thousand worldwide, how many will Fairport do? The live shoot was expensive due to various problems associated with a "festival" show"
I could go on. Nobody will be buying themselves an Aston Martin out of this. Get behind the band you all love. There are many bands out there who wouldn't even attempt anything like this, luckily for you (& me) Fairport will & do. Nuff said! All the best, Dave Meehan Live video director Nyquest Ltd www.nyquest.co.uk p.s it's very good Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Ollie on January 28, 2008, 04:53:50 PM David on the FC list has just posted this
Quote Received my copy of the DVD this morning & am playing it now. I'm going to try my best to let go of what isn't there & comment on what is. Firstly, they have indeed gone for the music documentary format, so at the point I'm at while writing this (Track #5: South Dakota To Manchester) there has been an interruption in the music for interview segments between EVERY two songs. Some of it interesting. Some not. I know they had to get comments from the likes of Jools Holland, Lulu & Frank Skinner, but frankly, none of them had much interesting to say. There's a lot of bits between the songs with album covers & old photographs floating towards the viewer, which were apparently taped in 4:3 resolution & simply stretched to fit the 16:9 resolution of the rest of the DVD, which I found intensely irritating. The music so far (Track 6: Just Dandy) has all been the current line-up. The band are is as fine form as I remember & finally we go into the next number (Track 7: I'm Already There) without any interruptions. The quality of the camera work & editing of the live footage is definitely better than on any previous DVD release. We get a few clips of various other bands during the interview sections, but no complete numbers so far. During Matty Groves, I just had to find the setlist for the night & compare it to the running order of the DVD. Had to find the torrent, as Expletive Delighted doesn't seem to have been updated for a couple of years now. Here's the track order on the DVD with the original performance order in brackets. 1(1), 2(2), 3(4), 4(3), 5(27), 6(24), 7(19), 8(35), 9(10), 10(31), 11(9), 12(30), 13(34), 14(7), 15(there's evidently an error in the torrent tracklist, because I can't find 'Canny Capers' listed at all), 16(28), 17(36) I noticed at this point that this DVD repeats the one disappointment of the CD release of my first Cropredy (1992) in that it leaves off 'Meet On The Ledge'. I suspect that's because if any of the guests refused permission to allow their performance to be used on the DVD, then this number was always going to be affected since they were all on stage at that time. After a fairly long section of interviews following Matty, we finally get a little of what I was hoping for, with Dave Mattacks & Maart joining the band for the instrumental medley. I will now officially stop whinging on at Fairport to replace Maart properly with a new lead electric guitarist (or tempt him back permanently). From this point on, only a full time lead guitar AND two drummers will satisfy me! Shame Gerry was only playing bongos & tambourine on the one number we got from that part of the concert! Track 11:Red & Gold. One of my all-time favourite Fairport songs from the post official reformation period (thanks Ralph) & another with the 2 drummer attack. Maart on keyboards. Still a slow number though, so not the ideal showcase for the dual drummer backing. I keep hoping.... Nice little interview section with Tiny Tin Lady, followed by the great performance of 'Who Knows Where The Time Goes?' with Beth on vocals. We then get a couple more numbers with the current line-up, which are actually not split by interviews. I think this is only the second time on the whole DVD that we get two numbers in a row, without interviews inbetween. We then get another section with the Tiny Tins, filmed at the Mill sound check I'd guess. This is followed my another number with Maart & DM (yay!). It is, naturally, another with Gerry just playing the Bongos of course. At last we get 'Time Will Show The Wiser. Richard Thompson, Ashley Hutchings, Iain Matthews, Judy Dyble! I can understand why they put that particular high point almost at the end. The DVD actually ends with 'Best Wishes', but sadly no 'Meet On The Ledge', which is such a shame. For an old atheist like me, 'Meet on The Ledge' at Cropredy is the closest I get to a really spiritual experience. It's one of the few times, for a short while, that I believe there's really something more than our short insignificant lives. The extras consist of the backdrop projection movies for Matty Groves, Keep On Turning The Wheels & South Dakota To Manchester. The Matty Groves story told in lego animation was at least one of the things the fans demanded should be on the DVD that we actually got. But wasn't it in colour on the night, or was I just that high on the whole experience that I just thought I saw it in colour? So to recap. We got one number & a few interview sections with RT & AH, a few numbers with DM, but not the best of the ones where he & GC played together. No Swarb whatsoever. I will happily show this DVD to anyone I'm trying to sell on the idea of attending their first Cropredy, but for me, knowing what was left out, it will always fall somewhat flat. I should mention at this point that I fully understand that the band's hands may have been tied as to what was available to them. Some people may have had reasons to deny the use of their appearances on the DVD & it's not for us to deny them that right, but it still doesn't match up to the memory of the event in any way, shape or form. Hope that helps Ollie Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: jude on January 28, 2008, 05:13:41 PM I wonder why I've got an exclamation mark after my name...
D'you suppose I was unexpected? :o Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Mortimer on January 28, 2008, 05:17:36 PM I assume it is an exclamation of delight!
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on January 28, 2008, 05:31:26 PM I was suprised to read that even the largest bands sell only 50-60,000 DVDs. Given the expense involved in filming, editing, packaging etc, it hardly seems worth issuing these live DVDs! If U2 are selling the figure quoted above, that suggests that smaller acts like FC must be selling around 5-10,000 at the very most. I have some difficulty believing that DVDs sell such miniscule quantities..
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Waterloo Wonderer on January 28, 2008, 06:33:07 PM I was suprised to read that even the largest bands sell only 50-60,000 DVDs. Given the expense involved in filming, editing, packaging etc, it hardly seems worth issuing these live DVDs! If U2 are selling the figure quoted above, that suggests that smaller acts like FC must be selling around 5-10,000 at the very most. I have some difficulty believing that DVDs sell such miniscule quantities.. A question for me is what is the impact of piracy on the DVD market. OK Fairport's market will be smaller than U2's but U2's will be at a level that means that illegal copies will be lucrative and there are also copies that get done for friends etc.Time Will Show The Wiser was the most pwerful musical moment of the Fairport performance at Cropredy. Its energy stood above the rest of the weekend. If they have any left when they get to Southport I will buy one. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Mindwarper on January 28, 2008, 07:15:56 PM I'm just curious if anyone actually likes interviews on music dvds? I don't and don't know anyone who does. But they keep selling em. Does it mean that I am in minority or is it something that filmmakers/bandmembers want to do? Is it like a new illustrator and the graduate tool? To be a film maker, you need to add a interview to the dvd? To me, it is the music that matters.
I am more interested in the rerelease of the maidstone dvd. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on January 28, 2008, 07:21:12 PM I'm just curious if anyone actually likes interviews on music dvds? I don't and don't know anyone who does. But they keep selling em. Does it mean that I am in minority or is it something that filmmakers/bandmembers want to do? Is it like a new illustrator and the graduate tool? To be a film maker, you need to add a interview to the dvd? To me, it is the music that matters. I am more interested in the rerelease of the maidstone dvd. I don't, unless the DVD is a straight documentary! Some of the dullest hours wasted have been watching bonus DVds with Cds, showing bands recording material and discussing recording material. Incidentally, apparently the Robbie Williams Knebworth DVD sold 46,000 copies in the Uk in its first week of release, so I'm guessing the bigger acts are probably shifting around 150,000 plus.. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Linkster on January 28, 2008, 07:59:05 PM Any chance of an reissue in blu-ray format down the road? I think we are in the waning days of a format that's been around for 10 years and is time to move on. Oh well, at least it's a wide screen (anamorphic) version!!
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Bob Barrows on January 28, 2008, 08:40:52 PM I will usually watch the interviews once, just in case they let slip a tidbit of knowledge that was not available elsewhere. But subsequent views are for the music only, with frequent usage of the fast-forward button, because typically these things are not properly chaptered to enable the use of the Next button. I really wish they would push the talking-head stuff into the bonus features.
I love DVDs that provide a "music-only" special feature. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Chris on January 28, 2008, 09:51:08 PM All that is needed would be to 'chapter' both music tracks & interviews, which would allow you to skip whatever you want....that can't add much to the production, can it?
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: jaypeter (Peter) on January 28, 2008, 09:52:38 PM I wonder why I've got an exclamation mark after my name... D'you suppose I was unexpected? :o Jude You're obviously the highlight of the night!! "Judy Dyble! I can understand why they put that particular high point almost at the end." I must say the most telling remark, and one major reason to buy this DVD is from Dave Meehan; "Nobody will be buying themselves an Aston Martin out of this. Get behind the band you all love. There are many bands out there who wouldn't even attempt anything like this, luckily for you (& me) Fairport will & do. Nuff said!" If they don't sell many of these they won't try it again. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Bob Barrows on January 28, 2008, 11:00:22 PM All that is needed would be to 'chapter' both music tracks & interviews, which would allow you to skip whatever you want....that can't add much to the production, can it? I know - it makes me wonder why any dvd (music dvds in particular) is released without proper chaptering.Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Waterloo Wonderer on January 28, 2008, 11:09:37 PM Wonder if there will be any Easter Eggs.
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: MarkC on January 29, 2008, 04:35:56 AM I'm just curious if anyone actually likes interviews on music dvds? I don't and don't know anyone who does. But they keep selling em. Does it mean that I am in minority or is it something that filmmakers/bandmembers want to do? Is it like a new illustrator and the graduate tool? To be a film maker, you need to add a interview to the dvd? To me, it is the music that matters. I am more interested in the rerelease of the maidstone dvd. I like the interviews. Different strokes. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Simon Withers on January 29, 2008, 09:12:33 AM Thanks for the review of the new Fairport DVD. For those of us who were at last years Cropredy may find this offering sadly lacking. I admit so much Fairport & Fairport family material has been issued over the past six months or more I simply can not afford to rush out and purchase this product just to show my support for the band. I admit It would be a nice thing to do and I am sure Fairport would view the DVD as a roaring success if a significant number of units were sold with in the first month. It may even surprise several (or one) music executives.
I always hope that at some point a general cropredy festival DVD (S) will become available reflecting past Propriety's going back to the early 80's. More a kind of archive package than a product which looks toward the present incarnation of the band. All lives of the band, previous and present are important and one day I am sure I shall be nostalgic about this new offering and I will go out and buy it if it is still available. I am pleased as has been acknowledged on this board that it is indeed great that Fairport has taken the initiative to document the event. Hopefully any contractual difficulties that may or may not be outstanding with ex-Fairport members may be resolved for any future use of this footage and past footage. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: GubGub (Al) on January 29, 2008, 10:26:06 AM I think the review was useful for me in as much as it has confirmed that this DVD is not something I will be busting a gut to get hold of and that is unusual with Fairport product. I will, no doubt, get a copy in the fullness of time but it no longer gives me the frisson of excitement that I had hoped for, engendered no doubt by having been at that very special Cropredy last year.
Ultimately I will probably enjoy the disc but for the time being it will just have to join the queue on the "would like" list, rather than jump to the top of the "must have" list. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Mindwarper on January 29, 2008, 06:08:29 PM Preaching to the choir here. I always wonder why they don't add more chapter points to make this issue moot. Or have a music only option.
All that is needed would be to 'chapter' both music tracks & interviews, which would allow you to skip whatever you want....that can't add much to the production, can it? Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: NevBull on January 29, 2008, 08:25:21 PM Having a vested interest in the DVD, I was keen to have my first viewing this evening after my copy arrived today.
The concert footage is superb quality, sound is excellent and the interviews varied - and yes, you can chapter skip the interviews if you wish to. There will always be holes in anyone's viewing 'wish list', no-one will ever please everyone. For me, it's a good mix of the footage that was available to the editors. Thanks to Mike Rowbottom and all of the people involved in getting this put together - it looks great! Nev. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jim on January 29, 2008, 08:59:41 PM i do hope that the interviews are of a higher calibre than those weve suffered on past vids, the cropredy '86 springs to mind :(
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Andy on January 29, 2008, 10:49:15 PM Having a vested interest in the DVD, I was keen to have my first viewing this evening after my copy arrived today. The concert footage is superb quality, sound is excellent and the interviews varied - and yes, you can chapter skip the interviews if you wish to. There will always be holes in anyone's viewing 'wish list', no-one will ever please everyone. For me, it's a good mix of the footage that was available to the editors. Thanks to Mike Rowbottom and all of the people involved in getting this put together - it looks great! Nev. thanks for the videos last year Nev, especially Lego Matty! I look forward to seeing it again. ;D Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: spooley (Simon) on January 29, 2008, 11:13:17 PM My copy arrived yesterday and I've watched it through tonight. I agree with what several people have said about 'obvious' omissions, particularly Mr Swarbrick and, perhaps most obviously, "Meet on the Ledge". BUT the dvd is still a terrific momento of Cropredy'07 and will make a great sales pitch to encourage others along for future Fairport Festivals. The video quality is pretty good, and I've really enjoyed the very clean, punchy and dynamic sound. Audio/Video synchronisation on the dvd seems a bit wobbly at times ... but I suppose that does neatly replicate my Cropredy experience, where I'm usually to be found well back from the sound tower, with binoclars for close-ups of the performers :-)
The highlight for me (as a confirmed RT fan) is "Time will show the wiser" ... a terrific capture of a great performance (and a huge "thank you", in passing, to Keith Farnish for his YouTube uploads of both "Time..." and "Sloth" - oh! how I'd have *loved* the latter to be included in the dvd). This is a good DVD. It's worth £20. Thank you to all involved in its creation! Simon. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: John From Austin on January 30, 2008, 01:57:15 AM U.S. purchaser here - Can anyone advise me of the technical specifications of the new DVD?
Is it NTSC or PAL? Is it Region 1, 2, 0? These should be noted on the packaging. Thanks in advance! Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: frogcrutches on January 30, 2008, 02:06:22 AM U.S. purchaser here - Can anyone advise me of the technical specifications of the new DVD? Is it NTSC or PAL? Is it Region 1, 2, 0? These should be noted on the packaging. Thanks in advance! Hi John, and welcome. Unfortunately, I'm a muppet, and have absolutely no idea, but if you stay around, I'm sure someone who has a brain will be able to help. :) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Simon Nicol on January 30, 2008, 08:31:25 AM Is it NTSC or PAL?
Is it Region 1, 2, 0? The DVD disc is region-free but I'm mailing PAL copies at the moment, the NTSC ones are on order. These will go to North America and Japan when I get them. Nowadays compatibility in DVD players (and computer drives if that's we're you're watching it) is not an issue as industry protectionism has dried up, but it can matter if the TV you're watching it on is unable to display both PAL and NTSC content. Most modern sets swing both ways but to be on the safe side and obviate the disappointment of returns, I'm holding off sending any to nations who favour the NTSC format. I suppose you all know that the US adopted NTSC for many reasons: the 60Hz ac current for one and the rush to go into colo(u)r amongst them. There is no truth to the scandalous calumny it's an acronym for "Never The Same Colour".... Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Goaty on January 30, 2008, 11:07:45 AM My copy has just dropped through the letter box. It has instructions on the back which I shall be following closely this evening ;)
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jan_ on January 30, 2008, 04:22:31 PM DVD arrived today. Family viewing Friday evening when we will all be together. Will follow noted instructions with maybe the addition of an open fire if this chill keeps up. It'll probably be red or white rather than brown tho'.
And Fairport at Tunbridge Wells on Saturday. What a weekend! ;D Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: John From Austin on January 30, 2008, 04:27:41 PM I'm hono(u)red that Mr. Nicol his ownself (Texas usage) responded to my technical questions.
My Teevee (Texas spelling) can't handle PAL signals, so I'll place my order and wait patiently for the NTSC version to arrive. 355 days and 12 hours until the end of the current administration, but who's counting? Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: John From Austin on January 30, 2008, 04:29:15 PM Whoa! I need to go to formatting school.
Cheers! Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jan_ on January 30, 2008, 04:33:57 PM We don't stand on ceremony round here.
(His P.A. must have been busy.) ;) Welcome, by the way. :) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: MarkC on January 30, 2008, 07:01:35 PM Is it NTSC or PAL? I suppose you all know that the US adopted NTSC for many reasons: the 60Hz ac current for one and the rush to go into colo(u)r amongst them. There is no truth to the scandalous calumny it's an acronym for "Never The Same Colour".... In real life, I work here in the TV/Video industry...trust me, "Never Twice the Same Color" is entirely apt. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jim on January 30, 2008, 07:15:21 PM mine dropped on the doormat today and ive just given it the once over, and it is excellent, i dont regret one bit buying it or not waiting for it to appear cheap on amazon etc :D
I still wish it was double with all the missing stuff on :'( come on chaps howabout a soundboard 4 cd set? ::) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Sian on January 30, 2008, 07:49:17 PM Mine arrived today. Not been able to see it straight through, but what I have seen is just fabuloous!!!. I've laughed, sung, danced and yes, cried over it. I hope to watch it without interuption very soon and then I will try write somewthing more constructive. But so far it's just great. Sian Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Ollie on January 30, 2008, 09:16:10 PM I'll have to wait till next Friday for mine. Can't wait to see it tho. I had a camera pointed in my general direction at least 3 times over the course of the weekend.
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Andy on January 31, 2008, 12:57:19 AM I suppose you all know that the US adopted NTSC for many reasons: the 60Hz ac current for one and the rush to go into colo(u)r amongst them. There is no truth to the scandalous calumny it's an acronym for "Never The Same Colour".... Color, brother, color. ;D ...and "Never Twice the Same Color" is as true today as ever was.... Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Goaty on January 31, 2008, 05:20:26 AM Thoroughly enjoyed it, though it could of course have been better for the reasons already stated. Worth £20 ? Every penny, to me at least. Would I recommend it ? Unreservedly.
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: PL (Peter) on January 31, 2008, 07:29:24 AM Ordered mine last week Wednesday but well, the mail takes its time.
Well, so I just sit still and enjoy the anticipation :) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Chris Sweeney on January 31, 2008, 10:16:01 AM Watched it yesterday and a most excellent couple of hours it was. Yes of course there are things that are not on it - as I remember it, the event was 3 days long! But it brings back the memories of a great weekend with great music and great people.
Many thanks to all those who contributed to the making of it. Chris Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Polly Oxford (Andie) on January 31, 2008, 01:26:35 PM Great!! Substitute glass of wine (as on field) and a thoroughly enjoyable evening - I may repeat highlights tonight (and the DVD!)
Did get a bit tearful with the opening set, I just wanted to be back in the sunshine! Such lovely memories. {:-) {:-) BTW Is it just me, but when I see photos or film of Cropredies gone by, I'm always convinced I'm just out of shot, I feel as if I recognise everyone, and yet somehow they missed me? Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on January 31, 2008, 02:42:29 PM But at least they didn't miss you on the Cropredy Calendar Polly!!
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Waterloo Wonderer on January 31, 2008, 03:13:14 PM Sotto voce 'is any of it on youtube yet?' ::)
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: abby (tank girl) on January 31, 2008, 03:22:17 PM WARNING! WARNING! ALERT!!!
i am about to go off topic........ can someone please ascertain what is the smallest font you can use here and still be able to read it????? that's all. back on topic now. :D Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Waterloo Wonderer on January 31, 2008, 03:27:39 PM WARNING! WARNING! ALERT!!! If you press the quote button it comes up in the window at the usual size.i am about to go off topic........ can someone please ascertain what is the smallest font you can use here and still be able to read it????? that's all. back on topic now. :D Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: jaypeter (Peter) on January 31, 2008, 03:55:56 PM I suppose you all know that the US adopted NTSC for many reasons: the 60Hz ac current for one and the rush to go into colo(u)r amongst them. There is no truth to the scandalous calumny it's an acronym for "Never The Same Colour".... Color, brother, color. ;D ...and "Never Twice the Same Color" is as true today as ever was.... Last time I corrected someone on spelling/usage I got this; Don’t pick on people for their spelling, grammar or use of English. We prefer to hear what people say and are not bothered about how they say it. http://www.talkawhile.co.uk/faq/index.htm Anyway he said "there is no truth to the scandalous calumny it's an acronym for "Never The Same Colour"....", are you telling him that he has misspelled something completely imaginary? Plus the fact that he's Simon Nicol of course. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Big Dave on January 31, 2008, 04:01:13 PM Think Andy may have been highlighting the difference between British and American spelling and not Mr Nicol's ability to use words................(which we all know is legendary!) ;)
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jan_ on January 31, 2008, 04:28:26 PM I couldn't resist - just had to have a peep at the DVD. Red and Gold is sublime. (Long contented sigh)
I might be wrong, but it seemed to me that one FC member in particular seemed a little bit emotional at the end of the evening and maybe just on the edge of ... (Aaawww. It's nice to know it matters to them as much as it does to us. Sniff, sniff.) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: claire on January 31, 2008, 06:54:22 PM I got mine yesterday, and I love it!! A fantastic record of a great weekend; thanks to all involved. ;D I'm just wondering how soon I can monopolise the telly again to have another reminisce (sp.??).
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Keith on February 01, 2008, 10:03:20 AM The highlight for me (as a confirmed RT fan) is "Time will show the wiser" ... a terrific capture of a great performance (and a huge "thank you", in passing, to Keith Farnish for his YouTube uploads of both "Time..." and "Sloth" - oh! how I'd have *loved* the latter to be included in the dvd). Cheers, Spooley. A little birdie tells me that I'm on the DVD somewhere, with a camcorder in my hand :) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jan_ on February 02, 2008, 11:01:00 AM We watched it last night - all 133 minutes of it!
What a wonderful and fitting tribute to Cropredy, the fans, the band and their fellow musicians. From the clever opening to the poignant ending it was a joy. Even if all the evening's contributors were not featured in a performing role, they were there in spirit and you could sense their presence through the photos and the atmosphere. As already said, Red and Gold was sublime, Time Will Show The Wiser was mighty and recording the band members' reactions as they left the stage was both revealing and heartwarming, to say the least. Buy it now - I don't think you will be disappointed. ;D (Encountering Matty in the middle was a bit disorientating! :o) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Shane (Skirky) on February 02, 2008, 12:50:11 PM Well, DVD seen, considered and reflected upon, and I must say I think it's a first class piece of work, summing up both the Cropredy experience and the state of the band here and now in fine form. There have been many many comments about what has been left off but it's clear from Simon Nicol's reflections to camera that the current band "...ten years - that's three years longer than The Beatles") are determined to be in no way their own tribute band and that they fit in old material as it suits the line up, and as a product of the current Fairport Convention I think they have been wise in limiting the opportunities to see them as a band reliant on past glories to maintain them. Not that I wouldn't very much like a companion DVD with all the other stuff on, mind, but I haven't been given an opportunity to buy that, so I'll concentrate on what is actually on offer. It's not a documentary and it's not a complete live show, but I like the way that the two strands weave around each other - it's very much like being at the festival itself for me, in that you are taken wandering off around the village before returning to the site for some more music, dipping in and out of the experience. The interviews don't outstay their welcome, and it's always fun scouring footage of the bar to see if you made it onscreen.
Quibbles? The solemn opening staged scene is embarassing, and rather belies the later concentration on living in the now with its handling of the early albums as if they were rare museum pieces, but the avuncular Mr Nicol more than makes up for it with his easygoing tours of the campsites later on, even if his and Ric's forays from behind the wire do at times flirt with the feel of a sort of royal visit to a housing estate "Hello...and what do you do?" ;D Much is made of the loyalty of the fans and the glorious forty year history (apart from that bit where the band split up, yes? Hmmm) and the affection that the group have for the crowd, their bandmates and friends, and vice versa, comes across in spades. But call me curmudgeonly, I just don't get the continued fascination/obsession (delete as appropriate) with Tiny Tin Lady. I've tried and I really can't. Is it expensive? Well, it's twenty quid for a single DVD, but it is over two hours long and there's nary a couple of minutes wasted, and although I disagree with some of the comments on the FC site about these being "our friends" (not on this one, matey - I'm very much their customer on this matter, and besides, they never phone, they never call, they do write every so often) I do back up the small business v. economies of scale argument that means that with a small run the costs are necessarily going to be higher per unit, and that's got to be passed on somewhere, but I spent twenty quid in the pub last week, that evening's gone, I don't remember too much of it and I won't be able to experience it again and again like I will this. If you feel the need, I'm sure The Man will have cheaper copies before too long, at which point I commend you to rip his arm off in order to get hold of a copy. It's by far the best FC/Cropredy souvenir you're likely to be able to (legally) own, and you should do. IMHO. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Ancient Muse (Andy) on February 02, 2008, 01:03:04 PM But call me curmudgeonly, I just don't get the continued fascination/obsession (delete as appropriate) with Tiny Tin Lady. I've tried and I really can't. Ditto :-\ Excellent review/analysis by the way Skirky, especially about being their "customer" on this occasion. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: gower flower (Shirl) on February 02, 2008, 01:19:18 PM But call me curmudgeonly, I just don't get the continued fascination/obsession (delete as appropriate) with Tiny Tin Lady. I've tried and I really can't. Ditto :-\ Excellent review/analysis by the way Skirky, especially about being their "customer" on this occasion. Ditto Ditto. Thanks Skirky. I was always going to buy it, but your review was masterly. Thanks. :) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jan_ on February 02, 2008, 02:03:30 PM Skirky, I don't share your view that the opening scene was embarrassing and I didn't think the aim was to create the impression that the early albums are museum pieces, even though some might think so. I think it was just meant to reflect wistfully and respectfully on the early days and was a device to set the ball (turntable) rolling and incorporate a song which has often been used to put the last year in context.
As for friends being customers - I don't have a problem with that. I have 3 SftBH Cd's. They probably cost me more than the average CD I could purchase in Tescos. I've never met you, although I have spoken to James and hmulley and corresponded with them a few times but I consider you all to be 'friends' of a sort and don't mind paying a little bit over the odds for your quality product. And Ric didn't remind me of the Queen at all. I thought he was very natural in front of the camera. Simon did seem slightly self conscious at times but only a bit. The rest I agree with. :) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Shane (Skirky) on February 02, 2008, 02:40:38 PM As for friends being customers - I don't have a problem with that. I have 3 SftBH Cd's. They probably cost me more than the average CD I could purchase in Tescos. I've never met you, although I have spoken to James and hmulley and corresponded with them a few times but I consider you all to be 'friends' of a sort and don't mind paying a little bit over the odds for your quality product. My point exactly, although probably not phrased terribly well. There have been several points made regarding how much the DVD should cost, but possibly without considering that what you're paying for is the content rather than the actual artefact itself. I mean you can get twenty blank CDs at HMV for pocket money, but no-one's considering that that should be the benchmark for setting the price of (say) Over The Next Hill. Neil Young's Landing On Water, on the other hand... ;D I always enjoy being educated, informed and enlightened by my friends, that's why I hang out here. Love Skirky. ps Thanks for owning the SftBH CDs btw, another two hundred copies to go and I think James might have paid off the credit card bill he ran up recording them... ::) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Chris on February 02, 2008, 10:38:50 PM A little birdie tells me that I'm on the DVD somewhere, with a camcorder in my hand :) Hmmm - another one tells me I'm on there too....which I was trying to avoid! Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Delfini (Diane) on February 02, 2008, 11:49:09 PM A little birdie tells me that I'm on the DVD somewhere, with a camcorder in my hand :) Hmmm - another one tells me I'm on there too....which I was trying to avoid! Never mind chaps - we won't look ;) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jim G on February 04, 2008, 01:39:53 AM Just watched my (signed) copy of the DVD. Thought it was really groovy - much better value than £20 worth of Mars bars or Oxo cubes and certainly more melodic.
Has anyone seen themselves on the film yet? I know where we were on the night, but every time the camera sweeps the audience the picture seemed to end up by fading into a misty effect just as it reached where I was. Will have a slow motion look when I have time. Personal faves were Matty and Red and Gold, where it's the first time I have heard Edmund's cornet contribution properly! Usually his playing seems to sort of fades in and out when you are on the field - thought it was wonderful. Only complaints really some of the interviews have a lot of bass interference going on in the back ground and a few places where there are snippets of songs - just get yer taste buds going and they whip it away from yer - the blighters! Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Paul on February 04, 2008, 10:31:41 AM Unfortunately Edmund's contribution gets lost because he doesn't always know where his microphone is. I noticed Ric was being really careful to make sure it was right in front of Edmund, but he does wander off line sometimes.
Paul Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Hedgehog on February 04, 2008, 10:39:44 AM Oh dear...
Received a text yesterday from Anna - it would appear that I'm on it, talking to/at Ric! :-[ I only went over to pass on felicitations as I thought it was safe as the camera was turned orf. Then the Man turned it on again. Curses!! I was planning to pick up a copy of the DVD at Yeovil in any case, I'll just have to remember to watch it from behind the settee! Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Goaty on February 04, 2008, 10:46:47 AM Has anyone seen themselves on the film yet? Every time I'm in frame (lurking behind the monitor desk stage left) it's either too dark or one or more of those pesky musicians are in the way ::) There is a tell tale red glow visible on occasion though ;) I've watched it about 4/5 times now thanks to the demands of visitors. I'm glad to say that it hasn't started 'getting old' yet in any way, if anything, it gets better :) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: PLW (Peter) on February 04, 2008, 11:41:16 AM Just watched my (signed) copy of the DVD. Thought it was really groovy - much better value than £20 worth of Mars bars or Oxo cubes and certainly more melodic. Oh, I don't know. I always sprinkle a little crushed CD into my Boeuf Bourgignon. Adds piquancy. ;) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: johanna/ulla on February 06, 2008, 01:20:15 PM Hmmm - another one tells me I'm on there too....which I was trying to avoid! You are. Several times ;D I love this DVD. I watched it yesterday and I think it captured the special Cropredy atmosphere. What I desperately missed while watching it was the pint of 6X in my hand {:-) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Andy on February 10, 2008, 09:16:28 PM Bought the DVD last night and we watched it this evening. Some sublime performances and others that are missing for whatever unspoken reason. It's odd to have a mention of how wonderful "Meet On The Ledge" was when it isn't on the DVD.
Wrt the inter-song interviews, I really liked the Simon & Ashley show, but you could have lost Jools and Lulu - their comments were almost completely irrelevant. Good to see Mr Farnish halfway through! Lego Matty is still a joy - I can see this turning up on MTV! ;D £20 is a bit steep, but as Simon said, none of the band drives a Bentley and I don't begrudge them a penny. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Waterloo Wonderer on February 10, 2008, 09:21:13 PM Good to see Mr Farnish halfway through! Was it a new or a recycled image?Exiting stage right - at speed Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Joss on February 10, 2008, 11:01:15 PM A little birdie tells me that I'm on the DVD somewhere, with a camcorder in my hand :) Hmmm - another one tells me I'm on there too....which I was trying to avoid! I think at least twice!! And me too, but just once, my 3 seconds of fame - and in such hallowed company! Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Hedgehog on February 12, 2008, 10:37:46 AM Bought mine at Yeovil on Sunday, watched the first half last night. Utterly splendid!
'Ere, ooo's the rancid tart in the dayglo hat and KTM sunnies, launching herself at Ric from the graveyard? Ah. Ahem. :-[ Fetches coat... Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on February 15, 2008, 12:30:13 AM Just finished watching the DVD for the first time... loved every minute!!
Yes it's a shame that Swarb wasn't on it.. and there wasn't enough Jude either... but we can't have everything.. i did notice you though Hedgehog... ;D ;) A brilliant reminder of the best weekend of every year... !! Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Hedgehog on February 15, 2008, 10:38:23 AM Just finished watching the DVD for the first time... loved every minute!! Yes it's a shame that Swarb wasn't on it.. and there wasn't enough Jude either... but we can't have everything.. i did notice you though Hedgehog... ;D ;) A brilliant reminder of the best weekend of every year... !! Due to The Present Mr Hedgehog's return yesterday from hamburger-a-gogo-land, I had the perfect excuse for watching it all again (well, until jetlag carried the poor lad away!). I have to admit that, apart from one bit *cringe*, I adore this DVD. Gives me a warm feeling inside that, for once, isn't curry-induced! Our 'cinema' is on the first floor, and at one point I was wandering around downstairs, pretending I lived in Cropredy. Easily pleased, me... Big thumbs-up to all concerned! (By the way, is it my imagination, or has Lulu had cheek implants?? :o ) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: John From Austin on February 15, 2008, 05:51:21 PM (By the way, is it my imagination, or has Lulu had cheek implants??)
Sorry, celebrity plastic surgery is off topic. You have to start a new thread. ;) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Waterloo Wonderer on February 15, 2008, 07:26:09 PM Dunno. From where I was standing you barely see her face never mind her ......
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Mike Rowbottom on February 16, 2008, 11:14:24 AM First, thanks Hedgehog, your contribution gave me immense joy in the edit suite because you typified what I was trying to do. I wanted the warmth, familiarity and fun of the event to come through and you exemplified that I tried to get the guy with cycling piano in too but I think we only squeezed a single shot in the end.
Now to my Lulu story: I last interviewed her 25 years ago when I was a radio reporter for LBC/IRN and she had just been named Rear Of the Year. My news editor thought it would be hilarious to have some one called Mike Rowbottom interviewing a pop singer about her behind - RowBOTTOM, get it! Me neither but I went off, trepidatiously, microphone in hand to take on the assignment. Lulu, in the flesh, is a little Glaswegian bundle of flirtatious charm wrapped up in a charisma blanket; she smiled at me and touched me on the upper chest at one point and that is a part of my body which hasn't aged. She knew being Rear Of the Year was` ridiculous and so did I but we both played it for laughs and she gave me a terrific interview; just us, no entourage, no fuss. So, here we are in August, 2007, in the Portakabins backstage waiting to talk to Lulu again. This time there are managers, minders, assistants and all manner of hoops to jump through before I can get the little snippet I want for the DVD. But that's what being famous means these days and I've grown to live with it. Never mind, all the hoops have been jumped, all the egos negotiated and here is Lulu again, actually looking younger than our last encounter. I have interviewed princes, presidents, prime ministers, murderers and everything in between but I'll admit that my heart was thumping hard in my chest - especially the part that has not aged. So, to break the ice, I recall our last meeting. The thing is, Lulu has reclaimed her musical credibility since the dark days of Boom Bang a Bang so mentioning being Rear of the Year in, I think 1982, doesn't quite get the fond reunion-response I'd hope for. The big welcoming smile, the warmth, seemed to cool just a tad. Her eyes cast around to one of her minders and she said, "That wasn't exactly the highlight of my career!" What have I done! I've waited a quarter of a century to say this and when I do I get a Scottish frost. No alternative left to me: I must ingratiate myself. I say, "It was the highlight of my career, Lulu!" The smile's back instantly, and what a smile! Her arm raises and she touches me again, this time on my forearm, there are three light Lulu-shaped finger marks there now on another part of my body which has become immortal. Anyway she gave me a nice little chat, you've all seen it, many of you wonder why it's there. It's there because she was inclusive enough to play the gig - and play it so damned well - and because musicians especially don't have many boundaries, we'll play anything if it sounds good. There can't be many of us in the Cropredy crowd who don't dream of acting out our final decades playing in a boogie woogie R n B outfit and she gets to do it for real. Thanks for all your comments and I appreciate the constructive criticism. Some questions I can't answer but most I can. Mike Rowbottom Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Hedgehog on February 16, 2008, 07:55:50 PM First, thanks Hedgehog, your contribution gave me immense joy in the edit suite because you typified what I was trying to do. I wanted the warmth, familiarity and fun of the event to come through and you exemplified that I tried to get the guy with cycling piano in too but I think we only squeezed a single shot in the end. Awwww, p'shaw Mike *blush*! To be honest, when I saw Ric coming down the road, I thought that it was safe as the camera wasn't operating. Fair play to the op for being so swift in reversing that situation! (Hedgehog is part-sponsored by Panamic - 'The Boom Pole Of Champions' - and available for panto, bar mitzvahs and lodge parties. Reasonable rates. Contact C. Dandridge for more info. Thank you.) ;D Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: tinytinlady on February 21, 2008, 08:26:16 PM But call me curmudgeonly, I just don't get the continued fascination/obsession (delete as appropriate) with Tiny Tin Lady. I've tried and I really can't. Ditto :-\ Excellent review/analysis by the way Skirky, especially about being their "customer" on this occasion. Ditto Ditto. Thanks Skirky. I was always going to buy it, but your review was masterly. Thanks. :) cheers, your continued support means a lot to us ;D Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Paolo on February 22, 2008, 08:39:17 AM Well, I enjoyed Beth singing her strophe of WKWTG; and I found Tiny Tin Lady short acoustic showcase very good, a prove of talent and a promise fr the future.
Most of all the DVD made me feel depressed for keeping on missing Cropredy year after year. best Paolo Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Jim on February 22, 2008, 09:56:40 AM Paulo,
in this age of cheap flights theres really no excuse get yourself over here in august, you'll love it Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Nic O on February 22, 2008, 03:30:16 PM Where is the DVD available - haven't see it yet?
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Angela on February 22, 2008, 03:32:45 PM At any of the Wintour venues, or...
http://www.fairportconvention.com/catalogue.php Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Waterloo Wonderer on February 22, 2008, 04:36:34 PM Have now watched the DVD.
Did I enjoy it? By and large yes. Don't know why they had Jools Holland and Lulu on it though. I enjoyed Jools's set, as anyone who saw me slam dancing will attest, but their contributions were facile. The vox pops however were enjoyable and although perhaps a little over sentimental certainly conveyed the feeling I get when I go to the festival. The talking heads added to the experience and made the DVD more interesting than a purely performance one. I was going to say too much Tiny Tin Lady but it explained the tiniest one singing WKWTTG so it was just about justified. Lego Matty was thoroughly enjoyed even if one of the characters, I was going to say 'the villain of piece' but none of the main characters are without fault, looked vaguely familiar. Weren't they lucky with the weather. Just watching it made me fancy a pint of 6X stood in the sunshine in an Oxfordshire field. A couple of complaints - Leon should have been on it and perhaps less Americans and a few more from other countries. Sorry if I sound like a miserable git but at times the sound quality wasn't what I expected. Will I keep and recommend it? Certainly. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: JJ (Joanna) on March 06, 2008, 05:26:29 PM Had the DVD as a present, watched it and enjoyed it. Simon reminds me of Royalty going around 'visiting his people' ;D Good interviews though and a lovely reminder of a great Cropredy. Loved the Lego Matty. Have to always laugh at Ric's humour! :D
The sites and sounds make me think of summer and this wonderful 'village' atmosphere! Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: KascadeDan on March 20, 2008, 08:34:50 AM Thoght the DVD was brill. Shame there was no Swarb, but i can imagine how great it would be if there was. It's the best of the Cropredy DVD's so far IMHO, and I was there![;-)
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: jude on April 14, 2008, 07:45:22 AM Ahem! Ooooh look! :o
There's a clip from the DVD on Youtube. An official one... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFLE2eeZB3k ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Simon Nicol on April 14, 2008, 10:07:25 AM As Jude says, YouTube now features our official promotional video,
edited from footage shot for the DVD. Our thanks to Mike Rowbottom and Iconic for their help with this project. The more people who see the YouTube clip, the better it will promote our festival and the full DVD. So we hope you will help our PR effort by visiting (and, perhaps, re-visiting) the clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFLE2eeZB3k The more visits it gets, the higher up the rankings it will go - that directly benefits Fairport and Cropredy. So please have a look at the clip and get all your family and friends to visit too. Also, if you know any 'waverers' who might be thinking about going to Cropredy, point them to the video! Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Cocker Freeman on April 14, 2008, 10:20:44 AM Excellent clip!
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Dad Volt on April 14, 2008, 10:55:54 AM Nice little film that, the only downside is that it seesm SO far away (In time not distance obviously!) !! :( :(
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: martin driver on April 14, 2008, 11:06:25 AM Great idea to put this short DVD clip up on YouTube, gives an excellent snapshot of festival. Only four months to wait DV [;-)
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Polly Oxford (Andie) on April 14, 2008, 01:31:38 PM A real dose of warmth and joy! Glad I've got my 2008 tickets!!
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: KascadeDan on April 14, 2008, 01:49:12 PM Damn! >:(
I can't watch it, I'm at school. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: martin driver on April 14, 2008, 02:06:44 PM Don't panic young fella, the YouTube clip will still be there when you get home. Right now shouldn't you be concentrating on your school work. ::)
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Waterloo Wonderer on April 14, 2008, 03:05:16 PM Also, if you know any 'waverers' who might be thinking about going to Cropredy, point them to the video! Yep should help them make up their mind. When I get my insurance refund I'm going to buy. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: KascadeDan on April 14, 2008, 03:31:29 PM Don't panic young fella, the YouTube clip will still be there when you get home. Right now shouldn't you be concentrating on your school work. ::) I was in form at the time I posted. My form is sooooooooo boring. Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Addie on April 14, 2008, 06:03:46 PM God, that's put me in the Summer mode ;D
Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: Dad Volt on April 14, 2008, 06:49:44 PM Only four months to wait DV [;-) Just two months until the Big session ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: fstix (Michael) on April 26, 2008, 06:16:58 AM Quite a good review of the DVD is now up on GMR...
http://greenmanreview.com/film/film_fairport_forty.html :) Title: Re: Fairport@Forty DVD Post by: fstix (Michael) on April 27, 2008, 05:19:40 PM Oops, that review's not going "live" until next weekend. Ah well, you saw it here first!
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