TalkAwhile - The Folk Corporation Forum

Only one day left and one bid so far of 99p.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FAIRPORT-CONVENTION-AT-2-THE-BOOT-4-DISCS_W0QQitemZ260309846336QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item260309846336&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1297%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318[/color]

Goodness. How is anybody supposed to get rich like this?  ;D

Especially with the bonus cigarette smell!

Now you do all promise to let me swoop in at the last minute and snag this, don't you?

 ;)

Jules

I am nunchal naomi. Sorry if I started a bidding war. I have the 2nd one and think this era is the bees knees :)

Now if I could only get the Spanish Main with alternate lyrics, my life would be complete instead of a empty shell void of all joy and inspiration  :)

The last copy of this I saw went for over £200  :o

Now that's more like it! I'm hanging on to mine though!  ;)

Genre:  Pop !!!!???

Yes. As in "They're old enough to be your Mom and...."  ;D

Went for £67.00.....

There's obviously a market for digital versions of these....I'm sure Fairport could shift a few thousand of a box set of the Cropredy recordings....

I was outbid at the very end.  >:(

I want Fairport to have the last laugh and re-issue these things, so I can give royalty payments to them.

The odd thing about these sets is that they were put out by Fairport in the first place and beautifully packaged with copious sleeve notes but they have obviously chosen not to licence this material to Talking Elephant who have the rest of the Woodworm back catalogue (though I think Cropredy 98 is currently unavailable too). There must be a reason for this. I wonder what it is.

They're waiting for me to die of old age.

that still makes me laugh    ;D ;D ;D ::)

Amen.  Are you listening, chaps?!

Jules

I would love more from the vaults from FC. They are probably more excited about what they are are doing presently. But I would love more video and audio releases from the vaults.



"that still makes me laugh    Grin Grin Grin Roll Eyes"

thanks :)

If nothing else, I think they're missing a potentially very useful commercial money stream.  But I'm no businessman, and may be talking nonsense.  It wouldn't be the first time....!

Err.. As with almost all artists, the ownership of the recordings is somewhat distributed  :-\

Yep - that's true, but the actual official recordings themselves aren't that distributed, as far as I can see anyway.  Everything else seems to be, mind!  My own feeling is that there's a decent box set in these (and a few other) recordings.  Cropredy Capers just never did it for me, I'm afraid.  Like, sadly, all of those Free Reed box sets, with the possible exception of the Sandy one, but that's another topic I guess.

[Edit: Actually, I've just had it pointed out to me some of the very good reasons why these might not get released again officially, and they were things I hadn't actually thought of, but which make perfect sense.  Suffice to say, in a perfect world I still think it's a lovely idea.  In the inperfect one in which we live, it's still a nice idea!]

Yeah, like all those Cropredy videos from the early 80s, which I still haven't seen!

Jules

The Sandy box wasn't Free Reed.  Actually I really like Cropredy Capers, but most of the Free Reed boxes are flawed usually because of difficulty and expenses accessing officially released material.  Most of the boxes tend to be more akin to official boots, with all the shades of quality that implies.

Jules

I like Cropredy Capers too and there is more good stuff than bad on the RT box but I agree that a lot of Unconventional is pretty hard work.

That explains the Sandy Box then...!  The Free Reed boxes are flawed for me a) because of the hugely variable sound quality and sometimes truly amateur editing and balancing work, but even more importantly (after all I love a lot of boots) for me is the themed nature of the discs.  It just doesn't work for me....give me an historical narrative approach any time.

But at the end of the day its got to be the quality of the music that matters . Would you sooner listen to a Free Reed Box or Mariah Careys greatest hits?

Strange question!

Place it in a too challenging context and even the best music can get lost.  And for the reasons I have stated I find the Free Reed boxes too challenging...but I still listen to the odd song or two, just not a disc at a time...

This is not necessarily true, regardless of the quality of the music if the listening experience is difficult because of lack of attention to different recording levels or in the case of Fairport changes in style it can cause a jarring and less than enjoyable experience. As a listening experience Mariah may be less difficult than a Free reed box. Interestingly this problem is not as evident on the Thompson box.

There's a couple of real jarring sound level edits though, where material from different eras come out of the speakers at wildly different volumes.  You're right though, overall, the sound quality is better...the thematic approach isn't though.  For all of the afore mentioned reasons, sadly I never bought the Dave Pegg box...I know it will annoy me something rotten, but I still want it.  Ever the completist...  :)

Points taken with all of the above. I don't tend to listen to the boxes in order or even entire discs. Mostly the tracks pop up at random on my I-Pod or music server. The "sound check" feature is enabled so the problem isn't as noticeable and the quality of the songs and performances stand on their own. I don't tend to look at boxed sets generally a chronological listening experiences. They are just collections of tracks that I want to hear.

Music ceases to be enjoyable when you analyse it too much. I like what I like , I dont need to analyse it. Chill!!

No analysis involved just an uncomfortable move between styles and sound qualities. Happy to Chill though ;D ;D

I agree that the Thompson box suffers less than the others.  His work seems to have its own sense of cohesion.

I too am of the opinion that the thematic approach doesn't work too well, and I also would prefer a chronological approach.  In fact I rearranged the Unconventional set in such a way.  What this tends to highlight though is gaps in the story and  I appreciate that the thematic approach may have suited Free Reed's needs best given the material they had at their disposal.

There's no excuse for the differing sound levels though - even I, a rank amateur, could have sorted that one out!

And actually, David, you should rethink getting the Pegg box.  It's one of the better ones, and certainly more cohesive than Unconventional.  And once again, it's not strictly a Free Reed box, but a Matty Grooves box!

Jules

For those who wish to make thir own adjustments to the track volumes, back the CD's up to MP3 and then goto http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/download.php (for Mac or PC). You can then reburn the tracks to CD with equalised volumes.

There's an AAC version for those that prefer that format.

Both CD sets are up again on eBay now.  The seller (vinylnigel) clearly hasn't got a sense of humour though...they both start at £75 a shot.

David Suff at The Bees Knees released that, I think.