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Title: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: davidmjs on March 09, 2009, 03:41:23 PM
Haven't got my album to hand....surely Simon didn't really play mondolin, violin and autoharp on Solid Air, as it currently says on wiki?  Did he?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_Air

So what did he play, and on what?


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: Bob Barrows on March 09, 2009, 04:01:31 PM
Allmusic shows the same credit listing ... RT on violin and autoharp ... ?  :o That's as surprising as SN on those instruments!


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: Bob Barrows on March 09, 2009, 04:05:27 PM
According to CD Universe:
Personnel: John Martyn (vocals, acoustic & electric guitar, synthesizer); Richard Thompson (mandolin); Simon Nicol (autoharp); Sue Dranheim (violin); Tony Coe (saxophone); John "Rabbit" Bundrick (acoustic & electric piano, organ, clavinet); Tristan Fry (vibraphone); Danny Thompson (acoustic bass); Dave Pegg (bass); Dave Mattacks (drums); Neemoi "Speedy" Acquaye (congas).

This makes more sense ...


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: Jim on March 09, 2009, 04:19:02 PM

Allmusic shows the same credit listing ... RT on violin and autoharp ... ?  :o That's as surprising as SN on those instruments!


not really amazing SN played autoharp on WWDOOH and played viola many times on "Bridge over the river ash/whichever river they were near that night" so volin isnt much of a stretch


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: Andy on March 09, 2009, 04:37:52 PM
Somewhere in the back of my mind I seem to recall that Simon was the first violin-player in FC.


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: billy on March 09, 2009, 04:44:15 PM


Allmusic shows the same credit listing ... RT on violin and autoharp ... ?  :o That's as surprising as SN on those instruments!


not really amazing SN played autoharp on WWDOOH and played viola many times on "Bridge over the river ash/whichever river they were near that night" so volin isnt much of a stretch


WTFHIT ?


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: Cocker Freeman on March 09, 2009, 04:50:29 PM
I know! I know!

It's "What We Did On Our Holidays" isn't it everyone.

You see!


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: Big Dave on March 09, 2009, 04:55:35 PM

I know! I know!

It's "What We Did On Our Holidays" isn't it everyone.

You see!

Good boy Cocker, now go to the top of the class.


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on March 09, 2009, 04:58:01 PM
Cocker's right you know...!


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: jude on March 09, 2009, 05:07:53 PM
I left the stereo autoharp behind when I left Fairport, and it was obviously played by Richard and Simon when they thought it would fit.

I believe it was destroyed in the crash.. :(



Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: Dr Clive on March 09, 2009, 05:11:24 PM
I always liked the attribution on Full House:

"SIMON NICOL: Vocals, Electric, Acoustic, & Bass Guitars, Dulcimer. (Look out Steve Stills)."

DC


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: Bob Barrows on March 09, 2009, 05:44:31 PM


Allmusic shows the same credit listing ... RT on violin and autoharp ... ?  :o That's as surprising as SN on those instruments!


not really amazing SN played autoharp on WWDOOH and played viola
That I did not realize! How about Richard? Any bowed instruments in his repertoire?


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: Steve with the black dog on March 09, 2009, 10:39:30 PM
The sleeve notes of Solid Air say:

"Mandolin, Autoharp and Violin on Over the Hill - Richard Thompson, Simon Nicol and Sue Draheim respectively"

Therefore, Simon played autoharp on Over the Hill and nothing else.  Peggy on the other hand shared bass duties with Danny T throughout ;D

So, Jude, it must be at least an outside chance that Simon was using your autoharp on Over the Hill - I think we should be told, Simon :)


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: jude on March 09, 2009, 10:48:08 PM
Well we will call it Fairport's autoharp as it was loaned to the band, but probably the same one that I used to play.. :D


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: Nick on March 10, 2009, 10:17:47 AM

So, Jude, it must be at least an outside chance that Simon was using your autoharp on Over the Hill - I think we should be told, Simon :)


I don't think it could have been the same autoharp. Solid Air was released in '73 and wasn't the harp that Jude played destroyed in the fateful road accident? :'(

Cheers

Nick


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: jude on March 10, 2009, 10:26:38 AM


So, Jude, it must be at least an outside chance that Simon was using your autoharp on Over the Hill - I think we should be told, Simon :)


I don't think it could have been the same autoharp. Solid Air was released in '73 and wasn't the harp that Jude played destroyed in the fateful road accident? :'(
Cheers

Nick


Yes I believe so... :(


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: Anne T on March 10, 2009, 11:45:10 AM
This is half off topic - no Solid Air, but stringed things on other artists' albums.

There's a song I love on Iain Matthews first album (Matthews Southern Comfort) - "Once Upon  a Lifetime" -there is definitely what sounds to my untrained ear like a harp, but no mention of anyone playing anything harp-like in the credits. (Credits include Gerry, Ashley, Simon and Richard amongst others)
Anyone able to solve the mystery?


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: Jules Gray on March 10, 2009, 12:44:59 PM

This is half off topic - no Solid Air, but stringed things on other artists' albums.

There's a song I love on Iain Matthews first album (Matthews Southern Comfort) - "Once Upon  a Lifetime" -there is definitely what sounds to my untrained ear like a harp, but no mention of anyone playing anything harp-like in the credits. (Credits include Gerry, Ashley, Simon and Richard amongst others)
Anyone able to solve the mystery?


Dulcimer maybe?

Jules


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: Simon Nicol on March 11, 2009, 12:47:29 PM



So, Jude, it must be at least an outside chance that Simon was using your autoharp on Over the Hill - I think we should be told, Simon :)


I don't think it could have been the same autoharp. Solid Air was released in '73 and wasn't the harp that Jude played destroyed in the fateful road accident? :'(
Cheers

Nick


Yes I believe so... :(


Not destroyed, just a bit battered and bent (not unlike your correspondent.) It still was playable in the main and I wish I could remember enough about the sessions to recall what happened so I could clear it up. I can't find my copy of the album. If someone wants to send me an Mp3 of the track it might bring something back...


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: Harbottle (Martin) on March 11, 2009, 03:05:03 PM
Flippin' eck, it's Robert Wyatt!


Title: Re: Simon on Solid Air
Post by: Jack O Diamonds on March 24, 2009, 05:34:45 PM
I was thinking it was Ronnie Drew... but he's gone to the owld pub in the sky...