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Title: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Dubai Danny on August 22, 2010, 09:24:38 AM
I still haven't taken a pilgrimage to look at Fairport in N10, and because I'm aware of concerns that it might be ripe for demolition and redevelopment, I Googled it and discovered that it appears on Haringey Council's online planning database. There are no current plans listed against it, but there are four old ones:

23rd June 1948  - planning permission granted for "alterations to form consulting rooms for 3 doctors and a caretaker flat on ground floor with a flat above".

21st February 1978 - "Trim back tops of 2 sycamore trees in the rear garden".

3rd June 1980 - "Rebuilding of existing garage with self-contained flat above".

14th October 1980 - "Rebuilding accommodation area with bedroom accommodation over".

So now you know  :)


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Big Dave on August 22, 2010, 09:58:40 AM
Fairport is on the Councils list of buildings of merit.  Another brownie point for Messers Nicol & Co. !


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: PLW (Peter) on August 22, 2010, 11:07:41 PM
Is there a plaque?

I used to live just round the corner from the cover of Unhalfbricking, and always thought there should be a plaque there.


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Sir Robert Peel on August 22, 2010, 11:12:54 PM
If there isn't one then we should lobby the Powers That Be for one.



Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: jaypeter (Peter) on August 22, 2010, 11:18:45 PM
I can't remember, are Blue Plaques only for the deceased celeb? Obviously Sandy is a key figure, but the actual house Fairport is arguably of more significance than the Denny house.


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Dubai Danny on August 23, 2010, 07:51:15 AM
Quote from: PLW (Peter)

I used to live just round the corner from the cover of Unhalfbricking

That's in Wimbledon or Putney or some other London suburb, isn't it? I used to think it was some idyllic rural village in the middle of nowhere.


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: davidmjs on August 23, 2010, 07:57:37 AM

Quote from: PLW (Peter)

I used to live just round the corner from the cover of Unhalfbricking

That's in Wimbledon or Putney or some other London suburb, isn't it? I used to think it was some idyllic rural village in the middle of nowhere.


Arthur Road, Wimbledon Village....(must be worth about £4m+ now)


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Mister Keith on August 24, 2010, 11:43:48 AM

What's the actual address for the house?


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: davidmjs on August 24, 2010, 02:05:14 PM


What's the actual address for the house?



You'ev just got it, haven't you?


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Mister Keith on August 24, 2010, 03:34:22 PM

The other house, you know, the Fairport one...


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Tim Fletcher on August 25, 2010, 09:52:41 AM
The house is Fairport
The street is Fortis Green
The town is LONDON
and the postcode is N10 3BQ

Publicly available on Royal Mail postcode finder so I don't think this is a data protection issue, but mods please  edit remove as you see fit.

And here it is:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=N10+3BQ&sll=51.591023,-0.149632&sspn=0.000885,0.001725&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=London+N10+3BQ,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.591069,-0.14956&spn=0.007025,0.013797&t=h&z=16


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Jim on August 25, 2010, 09:56:55 AM

The house is Fairport
The street is Fortis Green
The town is LONDON
and the postcode is N10 3BQ

Publicly available on Royal Mail postcode finder so I don't think this is a data protection issue, but mods please  edit remove as you see fit.

And here it is:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=N10+3BQ&sll=51.591023,-0.149632&sspn=0.000885,0.001725&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=London+N10+3BQ,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.591069,-0.14956&spn=0.007025,0.013797&t=h&z=16


surely its on Queens Ave and not Fortis Green


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Tim Fletcher on August 25, 2010, 10:14:47 AM
An interesting question, Jim. I assumed it was Fortis Green and that is what the Royal Mail think, but Google Maps suggest Queens Ave. I guess I will just have to pop up there and have a look!

The first time we went to Cropredy I made a point of driving past the house as we set off - it seemed the right thing to do.


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Big Dave on August 25, 2010, 10:22:27 AM

An interesting question, Jim. I assumed it was Fortis Green and that is what the Royal Mail think, but Google Maps suggest Queens Ave. I guess I will just have to pop up there and have a look!

The first time we went to Cropredy I made a point of driving past the house as we set off - it seemed the right thing to do.

Get a photograph and post it on here Tim!!!!!


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: jaypeter (Peter) on August 25, 2010, 10:23:41 AM
I wonder if it has a name plate, and if so does it keep getting nicked. Or are we not that sort of fan?


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Big Dave on August 25, 2010, 10:37:37 AM
By the looks of it Tim use a post code search* on google maps.  This has located the centre of that code area.  I was always under the impression that the house is on Fortis Green Road, Jude mentioned this in answering a similar question on here many moons ago.
many thanks to Mr Fletcher for posting the link all the same!

*Off to check the validity of this statement by try his own post code......(Covering me own backside in case of being shot down in flames!)

Post Code search does indeed locate centre of a code, well  it does for mine anyway, was going to post a link but thought better of it!


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: davidmjs on August 25, 2010, 10:38:22 AM


The other house, you know, the Fairport one...



D'oh - sorry!


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Andy on August 25, 2010, 10:39:57 AM
Google Street View shows a name plaque.


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Big Dave on August 25, 2010, 10:45:01 AM

Google Street View shows a name plaque.

Most recent photo (can't remember where) I have seen does indeed show a name plaque depiciting a sailing / fishing boat.


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: jaypeter (Peter) on August 25, 2010, 11:23:50 AM


The house is Fairport
The street is Fortis Green
The town is LONDON
and the postcode is N10 3BQ

Publicly available on Royal Mail postcode finder so I don't think this is a data protection issue, but mods please  edit remove as you see fit.

And here it is:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=N10+3BQ&sll=51.591023,-0.149632&sspn=0.000885,0.001725&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=London+N10+3BQ,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.591069,-0.14956&spn=0.007025,0.013797&t=h&z=16


surely its on Queens Ave and not Fortis Green

Only on Street View. QA It changes into FG, Google's got the change in the wrong place.


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Sir Robert Peel on August 25, 2010, 11:24:19 AM

Most recent photo (can't remember where) I have seen does indeed show a name plaque depiciting a sailing / fishing boat.


I wonder if it's the same name plate that was around in the days of the Nicol family - or whether it was added later?


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Metro96 (Keith) on August 25, 2010, 11:41:21 AM
It seems to have a name plate but I cant read it properly from Google Street View.


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Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Simon Nicol on August 25, 2010, 12:14:07 PM
Google have indeed misplaced the point where Queens Avenue becomes Fortis Green. Fairport is still on the corner of Fortis Green and Fortismere Avenue. How many millions of miles of streets have they so far photographed I wonder? It's no wonder that a 50 yard glitch will creep in somewhere.

Oh and the house nameplate with the ship on it is long after our time there: when I grew up in the house it was a plain rectangular piece of wood with the name pyrographed into it - but not in Koster Christmas Special font, I'm sorry to recall.


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: jaypeter (Peter) on August 25, 2010, 12:31:00 PM

Google have indeed misplaced the point where Queens Avenue becomes Fortis Green. Fairport is still on the corner of Fortis Green and Fortismere Avenue. How many millions of miles of streets have they so far photographed I wonder? It's no wonder that a 50 yard glitch will creep in somewhere.

Oh and the house nameplate with the ship on it is long after our time there: when I grew up in the house it was a plain rectangular piece of wood with the name pyrographed into it - but not in Koster Christmas Special font, I'm sorry to recall.
I loved the bit at the Barbican where Joe Boyd described it as Ashley's house, and a shocked pedant shouted "Simon's House", whereupon you had to explain that as Ashley lived there at the time it was indeed Ashley's house


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: jude on August 25, 2010, 03:34:47 PM
 you look on my website you will see a picture of me holding dan with the original nameplate, which was plain with just the word Fairport on it :D


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Big Dave on August 25, 2010, 04:31:31 PM

 you look on my website you will see a picture of me holding dan with the original nameplate, which was plain with just the word Fairport on it :D

Thanks Jude, that's the picture I was refering to!!!!

http://manage.judydyble.com/archives/category/photos/page/2

In the montage photo, bottom left corner.


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: bassline (Mike) on August 25, 2010, 07:14:26 PM
Blimey - Jackie McAuley looks about nine feet tall, in that Trader Horne pic on the same site.(Jude looks,...... yummy, why was I only 4 years old then, Dammit!)


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Dave.P on August 28, 2010, 07:44:20 AM

Blimey - Jackie McAuley looks about nine feet tall, in that Trader Horne pic on the same site.(Jude looks,...... yummy, why was I only 4 years old then, Dammit!)


Do you know i thought exactly the same but jude still looks yummy !!!!


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Andy Tuck on August 28, 2010, 09:34:43 AM


Do you know i thought exactly the same but jude still looks yummy !!!!


Agreed. Met her for the first time at Cropredy this year, a very beautiful Lady and charming with it.


Title: Re: The history (well, a few snippets) of Fairport (the house)
Post by: Dubai Danny on August 29, 2010, 03:36:43 PM

Publicly available on Royal Mail postcode finder so I don't think this is a data protection issue

Googling would suggest that Fairport hasn't been used as a private residence for a long time, it's been registered as the offices of various different businesses, so it's not as if anyone's privacy is being invaded.