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Title: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Staffan on February 28, 2011, 08:06:57 PM
This download album is being discussed on the Sandy Denny list.
I look at my "Before The Moon" double CD and wonder if this is a "new" compilation of the Btm material and if it will be released as an ordinary CD.
Does anyone have more info?


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: John From Austin on February 28, 2011, 08:34:43 PM
I assume what's being discussed re: FC with SD at Ebbets field, is this title at amazon:  http://www.amazon.com/Ebbets-Field-Fairport-Convention-Sandy/dp/B004N06E3K

It looks like an abbreviated version of "Before the Moon," with some tunes from both sets.  Without comparing, I already note that it omits "Bring 'em Down" and, of course, only presents one version of the songs they performed in both sets.

There does also exist a bootleg called Sandy Denny - Solo in Denver, April 1973, with the following songs:

Late November; The Music Weaver; It Suits Me Well; Bushes and Briars; The Quiet Joys of Brotherhood; The Sea Captain; At the End of the Day; John the Gun

This, too, was recorded at Ebbet's Field.  I've never seen or heard this but only read about it.


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Chris on February 28, 2011, 08:45:22 PM
This website says the recording is from May 22/23, 1974.  My copy of “Before The Moon” says "early 1974.”  

http://www.itsaboutmusic.com/fairport.html

Also available in the UK from Play (mp3 only, it dseems)
http://www.play.com/Music/MP3-Download-Album/-/869/1109/-/18957976/Ebbets-Field-1974/Product.html?searchtype=genre




Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Jules Gray on March 01, 2011, 09:02:53 AM
Hmmm.  If anyone finds out it's not previously released stuff, then please pipe up!

Jules


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Philip W on March 01, 2011, 06:17:39 PM
Not sure why these recordings are being put out (again). It wasn't Sandy's finest hour. As a contributor to the Sandy list rightly says, hers is a "drunken and often sloppy performance".

 :(


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Henry Tompkins (Pete) on March 01, 2011, 06:50:08 PM

Not sure why these recordings are being put out (again). It wasn't Sandy's finest hour. As a contributor to the Sandy list rightly says, hers is a "drunken and often sloppy performance".

 :(

Maybe a little drunk, maybe a little sloppy, but I still love her voice, whatever.


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Jules Gray on March 01, 2011, 07:23:09 PM

Not sure why these recordings are being put out (again). It wasn't Sandy's finest hour. As a contributor to the Sandy list rightly says, hers is a "drunken and often sloppy performance".


But is it the Before The Moon recordings or not?

Jules


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Jamie73 on March 02, 2011, 08:28:32 AM
Yes it is.

Jamie


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Jules Gray on March 02, 2011, 09:03:09 AM
Thanks Jamie.

Jules


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Philip W on March 20, 2011, 08:00:55 PM

Also available in the UK from Play (mp3 only, it dseems)
http://www.play.com/Music/MP3-Download-Album/-/869/1109/-/18957976/Ebbets-Field-1974/Product.html?searchtype=genre


It will be available in UK on CD (release 4 April):
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ebbets-Field-Fairport-Convention-Sandy/dp/B004N06E3K/

Still don't understand why Jerry Donahue is putting this out again. Presumably he's happy with his guitar parts.
 ???


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Jules Gray on March 20, 2011, 08:28:32 PM

Still don't understand why Jerry Donahue is putting this out again.


I wonder if the contents will be exactly the same.....?

Jules


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Martin F on March 22, 2011, 12:26:46 AM
Found this when looking up the "label"...

http://www.itsaboutmusic.com/fairport.html


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Staffan on March 23, 2011, 08:03:16 AM
Sitting at work listening to "Down In The Flood" it sounds different to BTM to me.
Has anyone compared the samples on the above website to BTM?


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Jules Gray on March 23, 2011, 09:11:54 AM

Sitting at work listening to "Down In The Flood" it sounds different to BTM to me.
Has anyone compared the samples on the above website to BTM?


If anyone does this, then please report back!

Jules


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Chris on March 23, 2011, 10:07:45 AM
The considered opinion on the Sandy list is that they're the same tracks - but remastered by Jerry Donahue.


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Jules Gray on March 23, 2011, 10:37:38 AM

The considered opinion on the Sandy list is that they're the same tracks - but remastered by Jerry Donahue.


Hmmm....  To buy again, or not to buy again.....?   ???

Jules


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Barry on March 23, 2011, 11:17:11 AM

Found this when looking up the "label"...

http://www.itsaboutmusic.com/fairport.html


Interesting how the album list at the end doesn't have "Before The Moon".


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Jamie on March 23, 2011, 12:03:20 PM
Hmmm. Just had a listen to the sample of Down In The Flood and compared it to the BTM version. To my ears they sound like completely different performances. Maybe Jerry has gone through the two(?) shows and made different selections.

Isn't anyone in touch with Jerry? I'm sure he'd just tell us what's new, if we asked nicely!


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Philip W on March 23, 2011, 01:58:02 PM

Hmmm. Just had a listen to the sample of Down In The Flood and compared it to the BTM version. To my ears they sound like completely different performances. Maybe Jerry has gone through the two(?) shows and made different selections.

Isn't anyone in touch with Jerry? I'm sure he'd just tell us what's new, if we asked nicely!


BTM was a 2-CD set (or at least my copy was). There were two versions of Down In The Flood on there. The one on the new album is one of them. Clearly the second performance of the night, as Sandy begins by saying "I'll try to sing it differently this time" - then proceeds to ham it up in a way that does no credit to her reputation.


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Neil on March 23, 2011, 02:34:10 PM
There was talk when Before The Moon came out that a single disc would be released, perhaps this is that disc.


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Jamie on March 23, 2011, 02:38:21 PM

 There were two versions of Down In The Flood on there.


Doh! So there were. Sorry about that.


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Staffan on March 23, 2011, 07:03:19 PM

There was talk when Before The Moon came out that a single disc would be released, perhaps this is that disc.


Now that I am leaning towards the opinion that it is a "best of" BTM, I just wonder if the sound is so much better that it could justify a buy.
Will have to wait until someone buys the real thing! ;D


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Alan2 on April 30, 2011, 08:49:03 AM
Hi, newbie here. Well, I found out the hard way it's the same, almost certainly, as Before the MOON. Of which I have 2 (yes, 2 ) copies. Nice to have a digest, I suppose, and the artwork's quite nice. Haven't played them back to back, so i don't know if it's mixed any better or not.


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Jules Gray on April 30, 2011, 11:00:56 AM
Thanks for the info, Alan, and welcome aboard!

Jules


Title: Re: Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny - Ebbets Field
Post by: Alan2 on May 01, 2011, 11:28:36 AM
Hi again.  . . . and if anyone wants a sealed copy of BTM, going spare for a few quid, let me know.