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Title: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: Jules Gray on May 19, 2011, 09:17:35 AM
Just been posted a link to this clip on YouTube.  I think this is Yorkshire TV in October
1975.  There's only a minute of it, but wow all the same:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdr_kilrw4&feature=youtu.be

Jules


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: Dan O. on May 19, 2011, 09:51:28 AM
Oh my goodness, what a find ! Wonder if the rest of the footage is lurking somewhere ?


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: martin driver on May 19, 2011, 10:16:36 AM
Fabulous, thank's for posting Jules


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: YaBB Master (Colin) on May 19, 2011, 10:52:29 AM
Amazing find.
Being that sort of quality and wide screen in 1975, I would have thought it must be film, but it does seem to be on the monitor in the background.


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: Staffan on May 19, 2011, 11:26:52 AM
A marvellous clip. Hopefully there is more somewhere....
And in that case a proper release.


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: quodlibet (Ian) on May 19, 2011, 11:37:35 AM
I remember this being shown on Thames TV around this time. It was a half hour programme & broadcast, somewhat bizarrely, at lunchtime. For some years I had an audio copy recorded with a mike in front of the speaker, not great quality, but now irrelevant as it was lost, along with the JBL BBC doc soundtrack, in a house move many years ago. Hope the rest of this surfaces again.


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: gower flower (Shirl) on May 19, 2011, 12:12:37 PM
How wonderful! Thanks for the link Jules.  :D


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: Jules Gray on May 19, 2011, 02:26:23 PM
Thanks for the thaks all, though it does appear that the link was already posted on the Fairport Related Youtube thread.  Apologies for not noticing that fstix had already posted it.

Jules


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: Jim on May 19, 2011, 02:28:38 PM
what a great clip, the hunt must surely be on the remaining couple of minutes
they are out there somewhere


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: Henry Tompkins (Pete) on May 19, 2011, 06:39:44 PM

Just been posted a link to this clip on YouTube.  I think this is Yorkshire TV in October
1975.  There's only a minute of it, but wow all the same:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdr_kilrw4&feature=youtu.be

Jules

Beautiful. Many thanks to whoever unearthed it!


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: Will S on May 19, 2011, 06:53:21 PM
That's wonderful.  Love to see the rest of it.


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: John From Austin on May 19, 2011, 11:35:44 PM
Wow!!!!

I'm at work so I can't turn up the volume - is it live or Memorex?


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: PaulT on May 20, 2011, 06:39:42 PM
Beautiful, just beautiful! But so frustrating to have so little of it.....


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: Simon Withers on May 23, 2011, 07:41:46 AM
This is a most wonderful find...the clarity of the filming...I hope more turns up in the near future.


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: Bridgwit (Bridget) on May 23, 2011, 08:15:17 AM
I really enjoyed that! I hope there's more  :)


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: Philip W on June 07, 2011, 10:22:13 AM

Oh my goodness, what a find ! Wonder if the rest of the footage is lurking somewhere ?


I have been urged to say what I know about this, so here it is:

http://sandydenny.blogspot.com/2011/06/white-dress.html


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: Jules Gray on June 07, 2011, 11:42:48 AM
Very interesting and intriguing info there, Philip.

Jules


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: quodlibet (Ian) on June 07, 2011, 04:52:39 PM
I would humbly submit that the "White Dress" is a clip from the previously mentioned Yorkshire TV show that was a full half hour & in London, broadcast one lunchtime, on ITV Thames.

Clinton Heylin's, excellent if not all together trustworthy, "Gypsy Love Songs & Sad Refrains" lists the programme as Yorkshire TV, 29th December 1975 (recording or transmission?) & containing only three tracks: "Rising for the Moon", "Stranger to Himself" & "White Dress". However, I'm convinced that "Brilliancy Medley / Cherokee Shuffle" & "Iron Lion" also appeared, but I cannot recall if there was anything else.


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: bassline (Mike) on June 07, 2011, 04:59:32 PM
As I have posted in the Fairport YouTube section, I have a rather poor quality audio only recording of the programme which has the following track listing:

1. Iron Lion
2. Rising For The Moon
3. White Dress
4. Stranger To Himself
5. Brilliance Medley (nearly correct title)
6. Next Stop Girl (or rather Night Time Girl)
7. Mr. Lacey

so full marks to you sir!


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: quodlibet (Ian) on June 07, 2011, 05:24:12 PM

As I have posted in the Fairport YouTube section, I have a rather poor quality audio only recording of the programme which has the following track listing:

1. Iron Lion
2. Rising For The Moon
3. White Dress
4. Stranger To Himself
5. Brilliance Medley (nearly correct title)
6. Next Stop Girl (or rather Night Time Girl)
7. Mr. Lacey

so full marks to you sir!


Oops, keep up Ian, I missed that.  Thanks, Mike.


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: Philip W on June 07, 2011, 08:33:54 PM

I would humbly submit that the "White Dress" is a clip from the previously mentioned Yorkshire TV show that was a full half hour & in London, broadcast one lunchtime, on ITV Thames.

Clinton Heylin's, excellent if not all together trustworthy, "Gypsy Love Songs & Sad Refrains" lists the programme as Yorkshire TV, 29th December 1975 (recording or transmission?) & containing only three tracks: "Rising for the Moon", "Stranger to Himself" & "White Dress". However, I'm convinced that "Brilliancy Medley / Cherokee Shuffle" & "Iron Lion" also appeared, but I cannot recall if there was anything else.


Ian  

Sometime in mid-1975, possibly early September, Fairport recorded a half hour session for Westward TV before an audience. This was first broadcast in the Westward region on September 25 1975 and repeated on Thames TV (December 22) and Yorkshire TV (29 December). The audio that circulates of the Yorkshire programme (with tracklisting as given in reply 18) is clearly a repeat broadcast because Trevor refers to Rising For The Moon (released July 75) as their “new album” and Sandy describes ‘White Dress’ (released the same month) as their “new single”. This video has never surfaced.

What’s being discussed in this thread is a totally different programme, the London Weekend Show for 8 August 1975. I have seen a copy of it. They perform two songs only (in the studio, no audience). Please read my blog entry as posted at reply 15 for a description of the contents. If you don’t believe me check the first few seconds of the clip posted by our anonymous friend on YouTube and you’ll see Janet Street-Porter, regular presenter of the London Weekend Show.  

Philip


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: quodlibet (Ian) on June 08, 2011, 08:14:30 AM
Thanks for clarifying & apologies for muddying the water.


Title: Re: Rare Sandy footage
Post by: Edthefolkie on June 08, 2011, 06:41:05 PM
I'm really glad to be proved right for once. I was discussing the YouTube clip with a fellow Fairporter recently, and maintained that there was a very good chance that the complete original recording was available in somebody's archive somewhere. After all, old broadcast videotape reels were pretty big and expensive things to work with, also nobody just took bites out of them or physically divided a tape. Therefore they were either overwritten, thrown in a skip, copied to a digital format, or kept. In this case, kept!

I think Philip may have done a very good thing (see his blog). ITV know about it now, ergo it won't be skipped (please God). I wouldn't put it past some ITV archivist to pop a few seconds on YouTube to gauge interest. Look how often the BBC recycles its old TOTP and OGWT stuff. Fingers on rec buttons everybody?  ;D