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Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: davidmjs on September 06, 2011, 01:54:46 PM Have Fairport ever played Restless (from RftM) at Cropredy (or anywhere else) post '75?
Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: GubGub (Al) on September 06, 2011, 01:57:14 PM Have Fairport ever played Restless (from RftM) at Cropredy (or anywhere else) post '75? Can't answer the question off the top of my head but I believe the Cropredy Capers book contains a list of all the songs that Fairport had never played at Cropredy up to that point. It certainly hasn't been played since that was published. Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: davidmjs on September 06, 2011, 02:28:33 PM Thanks, Al. I've just had a major reassessment in the last hour. I've always thought I didn't much like Rising for the Moon. But there's some fab stuff on there. I'm not sure it really has much cohesion or sounds like a 'proper band' but bloody hell, some of the songs...
As for RftM the track itself...I've just realised/remebered that I think what's put me off over the decades is not the song itself, but some of the artists who've covered it at Cropredy and elsewhere. No names, no pack drill, but the original is not 'forced' at all...in fact Sandy sings it quite gently...and it certainly doesn't sound like a singing exercise. Not sure if this makes any sense to anyone (or myself!)? Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: GubGub (Al) on September 06, 2011, 02:35:44 PM Thanks, Al. I've just had a major reassessment in the last hour. I've always thought I didn't much like Rising for the Moon. But there's some fab stuff on there. I'm not sure it really has much cohesion or sounds like a 'proper band' but bloody hell, some of the songs... As for RftM the track itself...I've just realised/remebered that I think what's put me off over the decades is not the song itself, but some of the artists who've covered it at Cropredy and elsewhere. No names, no pack drill, but the original is not 'forced' at all...in fact Sandy sings it quite gently...and it certainly doesn't sound like a singing exercise. Not sure if this makes any sense to anyone (or myself!)? Not one of my favourite songs or albums in the FC repertoire but it is saved for me by Stranger To Himself and One More Chance. The latter is a transcendent piece in my book. The way Swarb's fiddle sweeps in with a little life enhancing major key melody at the end of all the minor key guitar pyrotechnics is just gorgeous. Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: Jules Gray on September 06, 2011, 03:52:13 PM Not one of my favourite songs or albums in the FC repertoire but it is saved for me by Stranger To Himself and One More Chance. The latter is a transcendent piece in my book. The way Swarb's fiddle sweeps in with a little life enhancing major key melody at the end of all the minor key guitar pyrotechnics is just gorgeous. It's the melody of the song part of One More Chance that nails me. That's one sweet melancholy tune. Jules Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: RobertD on September 06, 2011, 05:43:43 PM Not one of my favourite songs or albums in the FC repertoire but it is saved for me by Stranger To Himself and One More Chance. The latter is a transcendent piece in my book. The way Swarb's fiddle sweeps in with a little life enhancing major key melody at the end of all the minor key guitar pyrotechnics is just gorgeous. It's the melody of the song part of One More Chance that nails me. That's one sweet melancholy tune. Jules Agreed. Its never really been one I go to that often, though the above mentioned songs sounded great the last time I listened to it. Plus I quite enjoy White Dress as well. Its interesting that the work Glynn John's did was so divisive amongst the band. Peggy on several interviews has expressed his admiration for the album-I believe its his favorite actually. On the other hand DM left during the making of it and Swarb had some choice words for Mr. Johns I seem to remember! Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: bassline (Mike) on September 06, 2011, 05:56:11 PM TBH I couldn't tell you how any of the non Sandy vocal tracks go on this album apart from Night Time Girl.As it was her voice I got into first, I compiled all her stuff together missing out the male leads and instrumentals. The rest of the FC canon snuck up on me gradually, kick started by a pal buying me a 1988 Winter tour ticket for my birthday,then I heard Sloth at Cropredy 92.......
The bit that always gets me is when she sings 'chances' on Stranger..... Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: davidmjs on September 06, 2011, 06:02:13 PM If I told you I thought Trevor had the better material on both the major band albums they released together (Fotheringay and RftM) would you think I was a little bit odd?
Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: PLW (Peter) on September 06, 2011, 06:06:27 PM If I told you I thought Trevor had the better material on both the major band albums they released together (Fotheringay and RftM) would you think I was a little bit odd? Yes. Explain yourself man! Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: Jules Gray on September 06, 2011, 06:08:46 PM Swarb had some choice words for Mr. Johns I seem to remember! I'd love to know what they were! Jules Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: Jules Gray on September 06, 2011, 06:10:50 PM If I told you I thought Trevor had the better material on both the major band albums they released together (Fotheringay and RftM) would you think I was a little bit odd? Yes! I think his songs on Rising For The Moon are very poor. I quite like his songs on Fotheringay, but Sandy's outclass him. My favourite Trevor contributions are to be found on Rosie and Nine. Jules Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: Henry Tompkins (Pete) on September 06, 2011, 06:16:17 PM If I told you I thought Trevor had the better material on both the major band albums they released together (Fotheringay and RftM) would you think I was a little bit odd? Only a little bit odd David! Personally I've always liked the country - rock edge that Trevor sometimes brought to the band. The Plainsman is one of my favourite songs, period. Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: PLW (Peter) on September 06, 2011, 06:17:44 PM For what it's worth I think RftM is one of their best albums, and reminds me how good they were as a six piece. Seen live, this line-up was magnificent - with Mattacks or Rowland.
Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: PLW (Peter) on September 06, 2011, 06:19:58 PM If I told you I thought Trevor had the better material on both the major band albums they released together (Fotheringay and RftM) would you think I was a little bit odd? Only a little bit odd David! Personally I've always liked the country - rock edge that Trevor sometimes brought to the band. The Plainsman is one of my favourite songs, period. It's the tune that's really strong though - which is traditional. Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: Henry Tompkins (Pete) on September 06, 2011, 06:23:59 PM That is true, but I really like the lyrics too.
Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: Jules Gray on September 06, 2011, 06:28:41 PM That is true, but I really like the lyrics too. I love it too. Trevor's contributions to Rosie were great. Jules Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: bassline (Mike) on September 06, 2011, 06:47:54 PM The Plainsman,Bring Em Down,Possibly Parsons Green all excellent.
The Way I Feel is awesome.(except at the moment I feel knackered.) Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: Henry Tompkins (Pete) on September 06, 2011, 06:49:18 PM The Plainsman,Bring Em Down,Possibly Parsons Green all excellent. The Way I Feel is awesome.(except at the moment I feel knackered.) Yeah, I'd forgotten Possibly Parsons Green, thats another big favourite of mine. Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: RobertD on September 06, 2011, 06:50:40 PM Swarb had some choice words for Mr. Johns I seem to remember! I'd love to know what they were! Jules At work so can't find the quote but will try to remember it later. Classic Swarb quote by my recollection! I'm inclined to agree regarding Trevor's songs. I think Restless is a strong song, but Iron Lion is pale compared to The Plainsman or Bring Em' Down IMHO. Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: Jim on September 06, 2011, 06:51:09 PM The Plainsman,Bring Em Down,Possibly Parsons Green all excellent. The Way I Feel is awesome.(except at the moment I feel knackered.) Yeah, I'd forgotten Possibly Parsons Green, thats another big favourite of mine. i'll see your possibly parsons green and raise you one Iron lion Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: RobertD on September 06, 2011, 06:57:16 PM The Plainsman,Bring Em Down,Possibly Parsons Green all excellent. The Way I Feel is awesome.(except at the moment I feel knackered.) Yeah, I'd forgotten Possibly Parsons Green, thats another big favourite of mine. i'll see your possibly parsons green and raise you one Iron lion Lets not forget the one that was left off Rising For The Moon-Tears. Great song! Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: Henry Tompkins (Pete) on September 06, 2011, 06:59:45 PM The Plainsman,Bring Em Down,Possibly Parsons Green all excellent. The Way I Feel is awesome.(except at the moment I feel knackered.) Yeah, I'd forgotten Possibly Parsons Green, thats another big favourite of mine. i'll see your possibly parsons green and raise you one Iron lion ;D Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: PaulT on September 06, 2011, 09:10:26 PM Tears - I think I've got that on a 45. B-side of White Dress? Must venture into the loft & check...
Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: RobertD on September 06, 2011, 09:23:32 PM Tears - I think I've got that on a 45. B-side of White Dress? Must venture into the loft & check... I believe you are correct sir. Although in my case I have it on that Attic Tracks cd of Sandy and Trevor. Also had a good Fairport version of Ballad Of Ned Kelly. Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: RobertD on September 07, 2011, 03:01:40 AM Swarb had some choice words for Mr. Johns I seem to remember! I'd love to know what they were! Jules Well Jules, in hindsight not so bad...but I went through my stack of Fairport related magazine clippings. I think somewhere I have another related quote that maybe had some "stronger' language, but heres what I found- (quote from Swarb in Mojo) Glyn came along to a rehearsal and didnt seem that impressed. But he decided to do it and stamped his own kind of SS personality on everything, so much so that DM left halfway though. I think he thought he was being asked to be just a country and western drummer, to just play on the off-beat. His playing on that album was great though, particularly on Rising For The Moon itself and One More Chance. Glyn was a stormtrooper, but what a sound he gets, like everything was sifted through gossamer." Since its in the very next paragraph, I should include as balance this one from Peggy-"It was theo most fun I've ever had in the studio." As an aside, interesting to note how many articles I have amassed over the years from magazines and newspapers about Fairport and all its ex members. Next person writing a book about Fairport...you know where to find me ;) Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: Jules Gray on September 07, 2011, 07:27:34 AM Tears - I think I've got that on a 45. B-side of White Dress? Must venture into the loft & check... I believe you are correct sir. Although in my case I have it on that Attic Tracks cd of Sandy and Trevor. It's also a bonus track on the expanded Rising For The Moon. Jules Title: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: Jules Gray on September 07, 2011, 07:29:05 AM Well Jules, in hindsight not so bad...but I went through my stack of Fairport related magazine clippings. I think somewhere I have another related quote that maybe had some "stronger' language, but heres what I found- (quote from Swarb in Mojo) Glyn came along to a rehearsal and didnt seem that impressed. But he decided to do it and stamped his own kind of SS personality on everything, so much so that DM left halfway though. I think he thought he was being asked to be just a country and western drummer, to just play on the off-beat. His playing on that album was great though, particularly on Rising For The Moon itself and One More Chance. Glyn was a stormtrooper, but what a sound he gets, like everything was sifted through gossamer." Thanks for that. Jules Title: Re: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: MarkC on September 09, 2011, 03:29:19 PM If I told you I thought Trevor had the better material on both the major band albums they released together (Fotheringay and RftM) would you think I was a little bit odd? I would agree 100%. In fact, Trevor's voice was the first thing that attracted me to Fairport Convention. Title: Re: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: hurdygurdyman (Paul) on September 09, 2011, 07:11:22 PM Rising for the Moon is one of my favourite albums across the board. I love the title track and One More Chance is sublime. I saw them for the first time ever live at Brum Town Hall on that tour, which as a young man was also my first ever concert. Life changing moments in music :)
Title: Re: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: Tony F on September 10, 2011, 04:07:25 AM If I told you I thought Trevor had the better material on both the major band albums they released together (Fotheringay and RftM) would you think I was a little bit odd? I would agree 100%. In fact, Trevor's voice was the first thing that attracted me to Fairport Convention. Well, a sublime little epic called Banks of the Nile won't allow me to concur that Trevor's material was better. But key point taken ~ Trevor is brilliant on both Fotheringay albums, and that he can even keep pace with Sandy is huge. (That band was so perfectly balanced.) Too Much of Nothing, Ned Kelly, and Eppie Moray are my favorites. Love his vocal on Polly On the Shore, too. Though I must confess I find his take on I Don't Believe You ~ both the Fotheringay & Fairport attempts ~ less than captivating. Title: Re: Restless - Rising for the Moon Post by: Tony F on September 10, 2011, 04:13:04 AM Ha, just as I hit "Post" Bold Jack Donahue began playing. Another great one from Trev. (And another sweet solo from the other Mr. Donahue.)
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