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Title: Bruton town
Post by: Henry Tompkins (Pete) on October 17, 2013, 09:45:05 PM
Just seen this. Don't know if it's been posted before.

http://vibedeck.com/premierrecords/137505/.  


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: David (terrrrrrrr) on October 17, 2013, 10:44:49 PM
Nice call...


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Hans Valk on October 17, 2013, 11:32:49 PM

Just seen this. Don't know if it's been posted before.

http://vibedeck.com/premierrecords/137505/.  


I'm not sure, but could this Sandy's version of the song that's on one of the 'Live at the BBC'-CD's, with some added (2013) instrumentation by messrs Donahue, Donaldson and Conway, and Sandy's own (original) guitar cut out?
I think the acoustic solo version on the mentioned CD says it all. Was it really necessary to make it into a phony Fotheringay song?

And if I am wrong and the vocal track was recorded for the second Fotheringay album, why was it not on the 'Fotheringay 2' CD?

--
Hans Valk


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Joss on October 17, 2013, 11:53:56 PM
The Facebook advert says "This never before released recording of, Bruton Town, a traditional folk song, featuring the angelic voice of Sandy with new additions from Jerry Donahue, Pat Donaldson and Gerry Conway. A 1 track release from Premier Records."  No other information although you can listen to a 60 seconds sample. Interesting.


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Greg on October 18, 2013, 06:52:46 AM
It sounds like the BBC version to me with added extras.  There is a Fotheringay 'rehearsal version' on the big box set.  It's nice but a fairly loose take, Sandy forgets the words a couple of times.  In fact, I'd always assumed that was the reason it wasn't made up for Fotheringay 2 a few years back, not that I know that!

I rather like this actually, although I wonder what's inspired its emergence now?


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Hans Valk on October 18, 2013, 11:31:07 AM

It sounds like the BBC version to me with added extras.  There is a Fotheringay 'rehearsal version' on the big box set.  It's nice but a fairly loose take, Sandy forgets the words a couple of times.  In fact, I'd always assumed that was the reason it wasn't made up for Fotheringay 2 a few years back, not that I know that!

I rather like this actually, although I wonder what's inspired its emergence now?


I did some research and saw that there was a version included on the big boxset (which I don't have), but from your description I take it that this is another version?
I agree with you that it doesn't sound bad. This 'band' version has a certain 'haunting' quality to it. Fotheringay was never short of it.

The doubt lies in your last question: Why now? The recording on the BBC-cd is complete in itself. Just Sandy and her guitar. It's perfect in all it's simplicity. Why meddle with it?

--
Hans Valk


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Jules Gray on October 18, 2013, 11:40:34 AM
Sounds like an out-take from the Fotheringay 2 project that they have decided to put out as an MP3.  Maybe just a bit of houseclearing.

Jules


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Philip W on October 19, 2013, 11:04:55 AM

I'm not sure, but could this Sandy's version of the song that's on one of the 'Live at the BBC'-CD's, with some added (2013) instrumentation by messrs Donahue, Donaldson and Conway, and Sandy's own (original) guitar cut out?


Correct. No part of this was recorded in the 1970 sessions, so it's a bit of a fake. But it's very pleasant. And it'll make a few bob, I suppose.


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Henry Tompkins (Pete) on October 19, 2013, 07:18:08 PM
I don't normally go for these re-re-re-re-released cds or tracks, however I really liked this clip of the song.  So I will be puchasing this.  If Jerry is involved, it's going to be well produced.


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Philip W on October 22, 2013, 11:33:06 AM
I googled Premier Records, the company behind this, as I hadn't come across them before. It seems to be a new outfit, based in LA and London, with Jerry D on board as "executive producer and creative director".

'Bruton Town' is a taster for the US release of Fotheringay 2 next year:

'In association with Jerry Donahue, Pat Donalson [sic], Gerry Conway and the estate of Sandy Denny and Trevor Lucas, "Fotheringay II" will be released in Feb 2014 by Premier Records. This special edition will feature a never before released recording of, "Bruton Town", along with bonus sound bytes [sic] from the control room talk between Jerry Donahue, Sandy Denny and the others.'
http://premier-records.co.uk/fotheringay.html


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Jules Gray on October 22, 2013, 11:38:24 AM

'Bruton Town' is a taster for the US release of Fotheringay 2 next year:

'In association with Jerry Donahue, Pat Donalson [sic], Gerry Conway and the estate of Sandy Denny and Trevor Lucas, "Fotheringay II" will be released in Feb 2014 by Premier Records. This special edition will feature a never before released recording of, "Bruton Town", along with bonus sound bytes [sic] from the control room talk between Jerry Donahue, Sandy Denny and the others.'
http://premier-records.co.uk/fotheringay.html


Ah, feck, does this mean I'll feel the need to buy it again?   :-\

Jules


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Philip W on October 22, 2013, 11:59:56 AM


'Bruton Town' is a taster for the US release of Fotheringay 2 next year:

'In association with Jerry Donahue, Pat Donalson [sic], Gerry Conway and the estate of Sandy Denny and Trevor Lucas, "Fotheringay II" will be released in Feb 2014 by Premier Records. This special edition will feature a never before released recording of, "Bruton Town", along with bonus sound bytes [sic] from the control room talk between Jerry Donahue, Sandy Denny and the others.'
http://premier-records.co.uk/fotheringay.html


Ah, feck, does this mean I'll feel the need to buy it again?   :-\

Jules


You alone must speak for your innermost urges, Jules, but my guess is - unless you want to pay top dollar for "sound bytes from the control room" - no. I suspect they've nothing new to put on this release, so mocked up this bonus track using a BBC vocal recorded over a year after the band split.  


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Jules Gray on October 22, 2013, 12:04:28 PM

You alone must speak for your innermost urges, Jules, but my guess is - unless you want to pay top dollar for "sound bytes from the control room" - no. I suspect they've nothing new to put on this release, so mocked up this bonus track using a BBC vocal recorded over a year after the band split.  


Yes, you're right, Philip.  Maybe I'll settle for the Bruton Town MP3.

Jules


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Ronald on October 22, 2013, 01:01:13 PM
I wonder what they would have done if MP 3 did not exist, release it as a cd single?


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Jim on October 23, 2013, 11:54:33 AM
Its a bit bloody rum,putting out an expanded version of Fotheringay 2 so soon.
So even the bands regard the fans as big daft cash cows now


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Jules Gray on October 23, 2013, 11:58:42 AM

Its a bit bloody rum, putting out an expanded version of Fotheringay 2 so soon.
So even the bands regard the fans as big daft cash cows now


It's not really an expanded version.  It's the first US release....which also has some added stuff...which I've no doubt they know will entice UK buyers to but it again....so, where am I going with this?...ultimately I agree with Jim!    :-\

Jules


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Austin S on October 23, 2013, 04:38:57 PM


Its a bit bloody rum, putting out an expanded version of Fotheringay 2 so soon.
So even the bands regard the fans as big daft cash cows now


It's not really an expanded version.  It's the first US release....which also has some added stuff...which I've no doubt they know will entice UK buyers to but it again....so, where am I going with this?...ultimately I agree with Jim!    :-\

Jules


I'd have figured that the type of US fan who'd buy 'Fotheringay 2' in the first place would most likely have already imported it....  ::)


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Jim on October 23, 2013, 07:15:06 PM


Its a bit bloody rum, putting out an expanded version of Fotheringay 2 so soon.
So even the bands regard the fans as big daft cash cows now


It's not really an expanded version.  It's the first US release....which also has some added stuff...which I've no doubt they know will entice UK buyers to but it again....so, where am I going with this?...ultimately I agree with Jim!    :-\

Jules


its allowed


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Jules Gray on October 23, 2013, 09:00:24 PM

its allowed


Is that your new catchphrase, Jim?

Jules


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Jim on October 23, 2013, 11:37:49 PM


its allowed


Is that your new catchphrase, Jim?

Jules


Only time will tell ::) ;) 8)


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Henry Tompkins (Pete) on October 24, 2013, 06:37:54 PM



its allowed


Is that your new catchphrase, Jim?

Jules


Only time will tell ::) ;) 8)


Personally, I prefer that one.    Still, ''only time will tell'' if it sticks.


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: suffolk_steve on June 19, 2014, 02:27:06 PM

Just seen this. Don't know if it's been posted before.

http://vibedeck.com/premierrecords/137505/.  


I've been visiting this site every now and then to see if there's any news. It now defaults to http://star1records.com/releases.php which rather suggests that it was a short-lived enterprise!


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Jules Gray on June 19, 2014, 02:31:19 PM

I've been visiting this site every now and then to see if there's any news. It now defaults to http://star1records.com/releases.php which rather suggests that it was a short-lived enterprise!


Shame.  I meant to get around to buying that download too.

Jules


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: PaulT on June 19, 2014, 04:49:39 PM
Time told, then.  ;)


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Jules Gray on June 19, 2014, 04:54:30 PM

Time told, then.  ;)


 ???

Jules


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Austin S on June 19, 2014, 05:51:26 PM


I've been visiting this site every now and then to see if there's any news. It now defaults to http://star1records.com/releases.php which rather suggests that it was a short-lived enterprise!


Shame.  I meant to get around to buying that download too.

Jules


The download is still available, Jules!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bruton-Town-feat-Sandy-Denny/dp/B00FJRHG1A


Title: Re: Bruton town
Post by: Jules Gray on June 19, 2014, 06:09:24 PM

The download is still available, Jules!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bruton-Town-feat-Sandy-Denny/dp/B00FJRHG1A


Excellent!  Thanks, Austin.

Jules