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Title: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Dan O. on February 26, 2016, 05:20:23 PM From this year's Wintour programme - help the guys choose the setlist for 2017 ! :
"Simply list twenty songs that you would like to see performed on tour next year. The rules are simple : any song recorded by Fairport and released on an album or single is eligible. Matty Groves to close the set and Meet On The Ledge as the encore are given. Don't worry about putting them in order of preference, every title gets one point in the scoring. Send your list of twenty song titles to : Fairport50@virginmedia.com ." A harder task than I had anticipated - I wanted to choose some songs that I've never heard the current band play, and there's one or two from their own repertoire I'd like them to consider bringing back. So, at the moment my choices would be : Time Will Show The Wiser Jack O' Diamonds Nottamun Town Cajun Woman Percy's Song Sloth Poor Will & The Jolly Hangman Sir William Gower Wizard Of The Worldly Game The Plainsman To Althea From Prison Bring 'Em Down Limey's Lament Jack O' Rion Honour & Praise Wat Tyler The Golden Glove Spanish Main The Light Of Day Canny Capers Over to you, folks, what would you choose ? Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jules Gray on February 26, 2016, 05:45:53 PM Off the top of me 'ead....
Time Will Show The Wiser Tried So Hard Genesis Hall Crazy Man Michael Tam Lin The Deserter Sir Patrick Spens Now Be Thankful Staines Morris Banks Of The Sweet Primroses The Journeyman's Grace Lord Marlborough Sir William Gower John Lee Wake Up, John The Plainsman Knights Of The Road John The Gun Jack Orion It Suits Me Well Jules Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: mikec on February 26, 2016, 11:21:53 PM Josh's fav - Walk Awhile
My fav - Crazy Man Michael Will get back to you on the rest but like the thought of Time will show the Wiser and Jack O Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: mickf on February 27, 2016, 06:41:32 AM Well, I've got it down to 43 songs......this will be difficult
Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: bassline (Mike) on February 27, 2016, 08:14:04 AM 1. Sloth
2. Spanish Maine 3. Limey's Lament 4. Lalla Rookh 5. Dark Eyed Molly 6. Wounded Whale 7. One More Chance 8. Bring 'em Down 9. To Althea 10. Tam Lin 11. My Love Is In America 12. Lampreys 13. Dirty Linen 14. Reno, Nevada 15. A Sailor's Life 16. Hexamshire Lass 17. Willow Creek 18. Reunion Hill 19. The Widow of Westmorland 20. Ye Mariners All Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jules Gray on February 28, 2016, 05:32:13 PM Wow, Mike, we managed to have one whole song in common! ;D
Jules Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: bassline (Mike) on February 28, 2016, 06:50:40 PM Wow, Mike, we managed to have one whole song in common! ;D Jules Progress. Interesting that it should be a long song with a tricky time signature about fairies. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Delfini (Diane) on February 28, 2016, 07:27:06 PM Flipping heck, that'll take some thought....and no doubt, will change day to day......some pleasant means rings through CDs ahead I reckon.
Doing my list for Ralph at the Royal Albert Hall in May was tricky beyond belief...just one more song to fit in please.... Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jules Gray on February 28, 2016, 08:09:12 PM Wow, Mike, we managed to have one whole song in common! ;D Progress. Interesting that it should be a long song with a tricky time signature about fairies. Ahahahahahaha!! ;D Jules Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Bridgwit (Bridget) on February 28, 2016, 08:25:57 PM This will take some time..... ???
Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Will S on February 29, 2016, 09:30:23 AM I had a go and sent my list off last week. It could easily have at least 15 different songs, though:
Lalla Rookh Crazy Man Michael Poor Will & the Jolly Hangman Who Knows Where The Time Goes Lord Marlborough Rising For The Moon Eynsham Poacher Sir Patrick Spens Hiring Fair Red And Gold Time Will Show The Wiser Sigh Beg Sigh Mor Suzanne Wat Tyler Tam Lin Lark In The Morning John Condon Man In The Water Weightless Ye Mariners All Nottamun Town The Golden Glove Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: summer_soldier (Matt) on February 29, 2016, 01:52:29 PM in no particular order...
1 to althea from prison 2 now be thankful 3 journeyman's grace 4 sloth 5 hen's march through the midden/four poster bed 6 sir patrick spens 7 polly on the shore 8 the eynsham poacher 9 tam lin 10 the poor ditching boy 11 poor will and the jolly hangman 12 crazy man michael 13 the deserter 14 the hexhamshire lass 15 time will show the wiser 16 general taylor 17 knights of the road 18 wake up john 19 sandy's song 20 reynard the fox Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Ronald on February 29, 2016, 02:39:11 PM Easy, no problem at all ;)
Time Will Show the Wiser Fotheringay Who knows were the time goes Farewell, Farewell Tam Lin Walk Awhile Sir Patrick Spens Now be thankful Lord Marlborough The Plainsman Rising for the Moon The Frog Up the Pump General Taylor Ye Mariners All How many times Set me up Claudy Banks Travelling by steam The happy man The festival Bel Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jules Gray on February 29, 2016, 02:48:55 PM By the way, I didn't necessarily vote for my favourite Fairport songs. Just the songs I'd like to hear the present line-up do. Otherwise "Who Knows Where The Time Goes" would be there for sure. But for me, that has to be Sandy (or, at very least, someone up to the job of standing in her shoes) singing that song.
Jules Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: davidmjs on February 29, 2016, 02:55:16 PM I'd much rather we were choosing the set for Cropredy 2017.
Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: David W on February 29, 2016, 03:30:36 PM I'd much rather we were choosing the set for Cropredy 2017. Recent Cropredy set lists don't vary that much from the Winter Tour do they? Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jules Gray on February 29, 2016, 03:36:06 PM Recent Cropredy set lists don't vary that much from the Winter Tour do they? They do for special guests. Jules Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jim on February 29, 2016, 06:35:51 PM I'd much rather we were choosing the set for Cropredy 2017. Do you not think we are? Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: davidmjs on February 29, 2016, 07:59:24 PM I'd much rather we were choosing the set for Cropredy 2017. Do you not think we are? I refuse to be drawn into despair and misery with regards to Cropredy 2017. Until I have cause not to, I still believe. As for the Winter Tour, they can play what they want...I won't be there. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jim on February 29, 2016, 08:39:10 PM The trouble is,and it has become more and more apparent, in the last few years that the Cropredy set is just the wintour set adjusted for whatever musician is at hand to spice up the Cropredy set, hence Tom Robinson and that Kershaw chap, they seem so fond of, polluting what was once the highlight of a fairport fans year not to mention French rock operas, so awful that even the heavens complained bitterly.
Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: davidmjs on February 29, 2016, 08:44:15 PM The trouble is,and it has become more and more apparent, in the last few years that the Cropredy set is just the wintour set adjusted for whatever musician is at hand to spice up the Cropredy set, hence Tom Robinson and that Kershaw chap, they seem so fond of, polluting what was once the highlight of a fairport fans year not to mention French rock operas, so awful that even the heavens complained bitterly. Lol. If next year is just another 2010's run of the mill a little bit rubbish Cropredy set, I'd like to think there would be a second Battle of Cropredy Bridge. In reality a couple of us would probably shed a tear and noone else would even notice. It all seems such a long time ago now... Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jim on February 29, 2016, 08:49:31 PM It seems that lately at least 4 out of every five Cropredy sets have been a lot of filler and not much killer. I still hope they are planning great things for 17 but as the band gets older and the sets get shorter/ run out of material 15 minutes early, I have a bit of the fear. I do hope they prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: hendo (Dave) on February 29, 2016, 10:42:14 PM It seems that lately at least 4 out of every five Cropredy sets have been a lot of filler and not much killer. I still hope they are planning great things for 17 but as the band gets older and the sets get shorter/ run out of material 15 minutes early, I have a bit of the fear. I do hope they prove me wrong. I suppose I will be told off for noting that Brooc ,at 66, produces 3 and three quarter hour sets, night after night. However , in defence, last yrs set was shorter cos of Peggy's injury. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: hendo (Dave) on March 01, 2016, 08:48:26 AM The trouble is,and it has become more and more apparent, in the last few years that the Cropredy set is just the wintour set adjusted for whatever musician is at hand to spice up the Cropredy set, hence Tom Robinson and that Kershaw chap, they seem so fond of, polluting what was once the highlight of a fairport fans year not to mention French rock operas, so awful that even the heavens complained bitterly. Lol. If next year is just another 2010's run of the mill a little bit rubbish Cropredy set, I'd like to think there would be a second Battle of Cropredy Bridge. In reality a couple of us would probably shed a tear and noone else would even notice. It all seems such a long time ago now... I'll throw one in to the mix David. I think we are at the stage where the majority of the audience are not attending Cropredy to see Fairports. Back in the day , Fairport were the draw, now ,arguably,other bands, e.g Madness this year, become the principal pull. This may be setting us up for the day , after 2017, when Cropredy Festival exists without Fairport and the Saturday Night headliner revolves. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Henry Tompkins (Pete) on March 01, 2016, 11:31:16 AM Hendo, speaking of revolving I remember "Sunday Night at the London Palladium", and they had a stage that revolved! ::) ;D
Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Bridgwit (Bridget) on March 01, 2016, 12:15:05 PM The trouble is,and it has become more and more apparent, in the last few years that the Cropredy set is just the wintour set adjusted for whatever musician is at hand to spice up the Cropredy set, hence Tom Robinson and that Kershaw chap, they seem so fond of, polluting what was once the highlight of a fairport fans year not to mention French rock operas, so awful that even the heavens complained bitterly. Lol. If next year is just another 2010's run of the mill a little bit rubbish Cropredy set, I'd like to think there would be a second Battle of Cropredy Bridge. In reality a couple of us would probably shed a tear and noone else would even notice. It all seems such a long time ago now... I'll throw one in to the mix David. I think we are at the stage where the majority of the audience are not attending Cropredy to see Fairports. Back in the day , Fairport were the draw, now ,arguably,other bands, e.g Madness this year, become the principal pull. This may be setting us up for the day , after 2017, when Cropredy Festival exists without Fairport and the Saturday Night headliner revolves. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Dubai Danny on March 01, 2016, 04:26:47 PM I refuse to be drawn into despair and misery with regards to Cropredy 2017. Until I have cause not to, I still believe. I'm well out of the loop in terms of FC news, rumours, gossip and the rest, so I'm intrigued by this statement. What do you mean? Is there concern that the 50th anniversary will be a damp squib? Have to say, we haven't bothered going to a Wintour gig for many years. The setlists became uninspiring, so a fans' choice approach could potentially bring us back in 2017. And my selection, FWIW, would be... Seventeen Come Sunday Walk Awhile (original, faster arrangement) The Eynsham Poacher Close to the Wind Heart of the Song Angel Delight Crazy Man Michael How Many Times Claudy Banks The Plainsman Genesis Hall Polly on the Shore Journeyman’s Grace John Barleycorn Widow of Westmorland Travelling by Steam Clear Water Honour and Praise Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Chris on March 01, 2016, 06:02:19 PM 50th will never be a damp squib.....unless we get a wet festival.
Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: davidmjs on March 01, 2016, 07:49:02 PM I think the band going on hiatus (as the Americans say) after Cropredy 2017 is essential. They need a major new mindset (and imho some new members) to keep me even vaguely (re-)interested.
Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: RobertD on March 01, 2016, 11:35:25 PM I think the band going on hiatus (as the Americans say) after Cropredy 2017 is essential. They need a major new mindset (and imho some new members) to keep me even vaguely (re-)interested. Does every thread about Fairport and a specific request the band made for next year have to deteriorate to the same arguments about bad Cropredy performances and lineups, album material, and whatever the complaint du jour is? How about for once people just stick to Dan's original question-a set list? I know everyone has a viewpoint, but it feels like every FC thread slides into the same discussion these days. IMHO. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Dubai Danny on March 02, 2016, 12:45:10 AM Health issues notwithstanding, is there any possibility of Swarb being involved in the 50th? Or is the rift too large?
Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jules Gray on March 02, 2016, 06:29:22 AM Health issues notwithstanding, is there any possibility of Swarb being involved in the 50th? Or is the rift too large? Here's hoping that those health issues have brought about some reconciliation all round (have Fairport mentioned Swarb onstage at all this tour?). But those self same health issues sound pretty serious to me. Either way, it's far too early to call. Jules Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: PL (Peter) on March 02, 2016, 07:49:56 AM Quote Does every thread about Fairport and a specific request the band made for next year have to deteriorate to the same arguments about bad Cropredy performances and lineups, album material, and whatever the complaint du jour is? How about for once people just stick to Dan's original question-a set list? I know everyone has a viewpoint, but it feels like every FC thread slides into the same discussion these days. IMHO. Well said. Cheers Peter Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Henry Tompkins (Pete) on March 02, 2016, 08:05:53 AM I think the band going on hiatus (as the Americans say) after Cropredy 2017 is essential. They need a major new mindset (and imho some new members) to keep me even vaguely (re-)interested. Does every thread about Fairport and a specific request the band made for next year have to deteriorate to the same arguments about bad Cropredy performances and lineups, album material, and whatever the complaint du jour is? How about for once people just stick to Dan's original question-a set list? I know everyone has a viewpoint, but it feels like every FC thread slides into the same discussion these days. IMHO. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the idea of a forum - discussion? Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: giottoscircle (Robert) on March 02, 2016, 08:22:07 AM The trouble is,and it has become more and more apparent, in the last few years that the Cropredy set is just the wintour set adjusted for whatever musician is at hand to spice up the Cropredy set, hence Tom Robinson and that Kershaw chap, they seem so fond of, polluting what was once the highlight of a fairport fans year not to mention French rock operas, so awful that even the heavens complained bitterly. Lol. If next year is just another 2010's run of the mill a little bit rubbish Cropredy set, I'd like to think there would be a second Battle of Cropredy Bridge. In reality a couple of us would probably shed a tear and noone else would even notice. It all seems such a long time ago now... I'll throw one in to the mix David. I think we are at the stage where the majority of the audience are not attending Cropredy to see Fairports. Back in the day , Fairport were the draw, now ,arguably,other bands, e.g Madness this year, become the principal pull. This may be setting us up for the day , after 2017, when Cropredy Festival exists without Fairport and the Saturday Night headliner revolves. Is that the case? I can't believe anyone would pay for and commit to three days when the act they want to see is on the first night. If you wanted to tempt more people wouldn't it be better to put the "big act" on Friday? I have always thought that the reason for a "more marketable" act (Jules Holland,Alice Cooper,Madness) was to increase the chances of "unenlightened" friends, spouses, partners being persuaded to join us faithful for a weekend in a tent. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jules Gray on March 02, 2016, 08:39:51 AM Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Chris on March 02, 2016, 08:47:23 AM Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the idea of a forum - discussion? I think the point being made was whether the same point needs making incessantly every time a set-list thread starts..... Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Henry Tompkins (Pete) on March 02, 2016, 09:08:52 AM Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the idea of a forum - discussion? I think the point being made was whether the same point needs making incessantly every time a set-list thread starts..... I'm fully aware of Robert's point. Ok then, perhaps we need to herd up all those that have a differing opinion and make them have their own threads? Separate them out like Steeleye and Ralph sections are. That way, we won't interfere with those that don't like friendly discourse. :) Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jim on March 02, 2016, 09:18:32 AM Health issues notwithstanding, is there any possibility of Swarb being involved in the 50th? Or is the rift too large? Should he recover to the point of being able to perform, while at his age and given the severity of his illness there must be some doubt about that, I would hope that all concerned are big enough men to bury the marchers and give him pride of place. Because he deserves it, and we deserve it too. Cropredy is always better for Swarb. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jules Gray on March 02, 2016, 09:26:15 AM Should he recover to the point of being able to perform, while at his age and given the severity of his illness there must be some doubt about that, I would hope that all concerned are big enough men to bury the marchers and give him pride of place. Because he deserves it, and we deserve it too. Cropredy is always better for Swarb. Amen to that (even if I don't know what "marchers" mean in this context). Jules Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: hendo (Dave) on March 02, 2016, 10:02:20 AM Some very relevant points being made here.
Robert I completely accept your point and I apologise if I was partly responsible for taking this thread somewhere else. However people who may sound negative , Jim, David, even myself have been Fairport fans for a very long time. I think we simply want one of those classic Saturday night Fairport sets. So back on thread........ I am doing this for the Cropredy set rather than a winter tour so ....not in set list order 1 Fotheringay ( Ideally with a female voice although I have heard Simon sing this wonderfully well) 2 MOTL (sorry , just a really personal song to me) 3 A Sailors Life 4 WKWTTG ( as for Fotheringay) 5 Tam Lin ( maart on keys) 6 Crazy Man Michael 7 Sloth 8 Any jigs medley Ric would like to put together/ Lark in the morning/ Dirty Linen etc 9 Cell song 10 Hanging Song 11 Hiring Fair 12 Red and Gold 13 Wounded Whale ( maart on keys/ lead gtr) 14 White Dress ( but we need that female voice) 15 Rising for the Moon 16 Portmerion 17 Wood and the Wire 18 My love is in America 19 Celtic Moon ( Chris on vocals.) 20 A 1950s/ 60's r n b standard done in a Fairport styling. Eg That'll be the day' Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: hendo (Dave) on March 02, 2016, 10:05:10 AM Should he recover to the point of being able to perform, while at his age and given the severity of his illness there must be some doubt about that, I would hope that all concerned are big enough men to bury the marchers and give him pride of place. Because he deserves it, and we deserve it too. Cropredy is always better for Swarb. Amen to that (even if I don't know what "marchers" mean in this context). Jules Hatchet? Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Henry Tompkins (Pete) on March 02, 2016, 10:08:24 AM Health issues notwithstanding, is there any possibility of Swarb being involved in the 50th? Or is the rift too large? Should he recover to the point of being able to perform, while at his age and given the severity of his illness there must be some doubt about that, I would hope that all concerned are big enough men to bury the marchers and give him pride of place. Because he deserves it, and we deserve it too. Cropredy is always better for Swarb. Hear hear. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jim on March 02, 2016, 03:23:20 PM Should he recover to the point of being able to perform, while at his age and given the severity of his illness there must be some doubt about that, I would hope that all concerned are big enough men to bury the marchers and give him pride of place. Because he deserves it, and we deserve it too. Cropredy is always better for Swarb. Amen to that (even if I don't know what "marchers" mean in this context). Jules Hatchet? hatchet it is, sorry I never noticed the "marchers" thing. Predictive text thingy has started changing words off its own bat. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: hendo (Dave) on March 02, 2016, 03:49:23 PM Should he recover to the point of being able to perform, while at his age and given the severity of his illness there must be some doubt about that, I would hope that all concerned are big enough men to bury the marchers and give him pride of place. Because he deserves it, and we deserve it too. Cropredy is always better for Swarb. Amen to that (even if I don't know what "marchers" mean in this context). Jules Hatchet? hatchet it is, sorry I never noticed the "marchers" thing. Predictive text thingy has started changing words off its own bat. Indeed I have that prob too. Any idea how you turn the bugger off? Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jules Gray on March 02, 2016, 03:55:46 PM hatchet it is, sorry I never noticed the "marchers" thing. Predictive text thingy has started changing words off its own bat. Indeed I have that prob too. Any idea how you turn the bugger off? The predictive text? Or Jim? ;D Jules Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jim on March 02, 2016, 04:35:58 PM hatchet it is, sorry I never noticed the "marchers" thing. Predictive text thingy has started changing words off its own bat. Indeed I have that prob too. Any idea how you turn the bugger off? The predictive text? Or Jim? ;D Jules Jools dear boy, you cut me to the quick. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jules Gray on March 02, 2016, 05:13:18 PM Jools dear boy, you cut me to the quick. Damn, I forgot to call you Gym. Jules Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Will S on March 02, 2016, 05:35:27 PM Health issues notwithstanding, is there any possibility of Swarb being involved in the 50th? Or is the rift too large? Should he recover to the point of being able to perform, while at his age and given the severity of his illness there must be some doubt about that, I would hope that all concerned are big enough men to bury the marchers and give him pride of place. Because he deserves it, and we deserve it too. Cropredy is always better for Swarb. Hear hear. I don't know any of those involved personally, but the impression I have got is that it is Swarb who has the problem with the others, and he isn't the type to give up a good argument... Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jim on March 02, 2016, 06:41:57 PM Health issues notwithstanding, is there any possibility of Swarb being involved in the 50th? Or is the rift too large? Should he recover to the point of being able to perform, while at his age and given the severity of his illness there must be some doubt about that, I would hope that all concerned are big enough men to bury the marchers and give him pride of place. Because he deserves it, and we deserve it too. Cropredy is always better for Swarb. Hear hear. I don't know any of those involved personally, but the impression I have got is that it is Swarb who has the problem with the others, and he isn't the type to give up a good argument... I agree Will, but wouldn't it be nice for the band to offer the hand of friendship to an elderly bloke in hospital with huge health problems. It would get them loads of brownie points and hopefully a triumphant return to Cropredy for our hero. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jules Gray on March 02, 2016, 07:29:07 PM I agree Will, but wouldn't it be nice for the band to offer the hand of friendship to an elderly bloke in hospital with huge health problems. It would get them loads of brownie points and hopefully a triumphant return to Cropredy for our hero. That's how it should play out exactly. Jules Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: dooovall [Daniel] on March 02, 2016, 07:39:10 PM My ideal twenty-song Fairport Convention set? I'd love to hear:
1) a nine-minute new song 2) a fresh tune 3) Light of Day 4) Bring 'Em Down 5) The Gallivant 6) Albert & Ted 7) Heart of the Song 8) Man in the Water 9) Sloth 10) another new song 11) No End [from Sandy Denny's solo oeuvre] 12) A Sailor's Life 13) Sun Shade 14) The Lobster 15) Weightless/The Gravity Reel 16) Gold 17) Portmeirion 18) Fur & Feathers 19) Crazy Man Michael 20) John the Gun EDIT: I see that my 8 turned into a sunglass-wearing smiley face, which is fine by me. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Andy on March 02, 2016, 09:27:02 PM For future reference, you can turn off smileys under "Additional Options" at the bottom of the Reply box. (Not the Quick Reply box)
Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jules Gray on March 02, 2016, 09:45:01 PM For future reference, you can turn off smileys under "Additional Options" at the bottom of the Reply box. (Not the Quick Reply box) That's interesting. Now, where do I find this Quick Reply box? Jules Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: giottoscircle (Robert) on March 02, 2016, 09:48:50 PM Surry or sorry Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: ThomasB on March 03, 2016, 01:29:45 AM The 20 can change every few minutes, however this is the 20 that I chose to send in.
Angel Delight John Lee Sailors Alphabet Wake Up John Time Will Show The Wiser Festival Bell Walk Awhile Sloth Dirty Linen How Many Times Come All Ye One More Chance White Dress Red and Gold Ye Mariners All Reynard the Fox Who Knows Where The Time Goes I’ll Keep It With Mind Wood and the Wire My Love is in America Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Andy on March 03, 2016, 11:07:26 AM For future reference, you can turn off smileys under "Additional Options" at the bottom of the Reply box. (Not the Quick Reply box) That's interesting. Now, where do I find this Quick Reply box? Jules Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jules Gray on March 03, 2016, 11:24:49 AM At the bottom of the page, entitled "Quick Reply". Never seen it. Still can't. ??? Jules Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Bridgwit (Bridget) on March 03, 2016, 12:07:48 PM At the bottom of the page, entitled "Quick Reply". Never seen it. Still can't. ??? Jules Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Will S on March 03, 2016, 02:28:13 PM At the bottom of the page, entitled "Quick Reply". Never seen it. Still can't. ??? Jules Me neither Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Henry Tompkins (Pete) on March 03, 2016, 02:55:33 PM I've got it!
I'd put a smug emoticon but I've turned mine off - just for the hell of it. I may turn them back on again later! Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Andy on March 03, 2016, 04:25:10 PM This is visible on my PC using any browser that I have, so I'm mystified as to why others don't.
This is what I see at the bottom of a page. The pink-circled "reply" is the full version with pictures etc and the blue-circled version is the "quick reply". You'll have to ask Colin why you don't see it. [Photo over 400 days old. Removed by Admin.] Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: YaBB Master (Colin) on March 03, 2016, 06:17:55 PM This is visible on my PC using any browser that I have, so I'm mystified as to why others don't. It's selected in Profile -> Look & Layout Preferences (Near the bottom.) Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Will S on March 04, 2016, 10:47:33 AM Thanks Colin. I have it now!
Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: GubGub (Al) on March 04, 2016, 11:19:29 AM The trouble is,and it has become more and more apparent, in the last few years that the Cropredy set is just the wintour set adjusted for whatever musician is at hand to spice up the Cropredy set, hence Tom Robinson and that Kershaw chap, they seem so fond of, polluting what was once the highlight of a fairport fans year not to mention French rock operas, so awful that even the heavens complained bitterly. But they do make an exception in the big 5 & 0 anniversary years. The 2012 set was sublime. It must be getting difficult with a diminishing pool of alumni willing/able to participate. Revisiting the past with the help of the likes of Larkin Poe during that set worked far better than it might have looked on paper and is probably the way forward with the right choice of supporting musicians. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: GubGub (Al) on March 04, 2016, 11:31:26 AM The Frog Up the Pump It is a brave man indeed who nominates a track from Gottle O Geer! (though I am sort of with you on this one) :) Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: jimc on March 04, 2016, 11:31:41 AM Tricky. To me it depends a lot who's playing, but
Ballad of Easy Rider Close to the Wind Crazy Man Michael Eastern Rain Farewell Farewell I'll Keep it with Mine One More Chance Percy's Song Polly on the Shore Reynardine Si Bheag Si Mhor Sloth Tale in Hard Time Tears The Deserter (LL) The Plainsman Tune set with Foxhunter's Jig in Wizard of the Worldly Game Wounded Whale Anything they can persuade Julianne Regan to sing. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: hendo (Dave) on March 06, 2016, 04:38:17 PM Tricky. To me it depends a lot who's playing, but Ballad of Easy Rider Close to the Wind Crazy Man Michael Eastern Rain Farewell Farewell I'll Keep it with Mine One More Chance Percy's Song Polly on the Shore Reynardine Si Bheag Si Mhor Sloth Tale in Hard Time Tears The Deserter (LL) The Plainsman Tune set with Foxhunter's Jig in Wizard of the Worldly Game Wounded Whale Anything they can persuade Julianne Regan to sing. If they're doing Tears does that mean Ken Dodd will be there? Sorry Jim couldn't resist. Interesting list though . Made me rethink. The variety of people's choice does show how hard it would be to get a concensus. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Polly Oxford (Andie) on March 06, 2016, 08:39:23 PM So far i've thought 'oh yes, i agree with that' to virtually every list ( except the ones that include Sloth ;) )
Must have a serious muse on this..... - But for a cover can i have reprise of the RT Grapevine, pretty please? Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Ronald on March 07, 2016, 12:26:49 PM The Frog Up the Pump It is a brave man indeed who nominates a track from Gottle O Geer! (though I am sort of with you on this one) :) I know not many people like it, but I think the album is not too bad and The frog up the pump is a rather good instrumental. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Shane (Skirky) on March 07, 2016, 02:29:00 PM My Love is in America
I’m Already There Hanging Song Cell Song Chelsea Morning Million Dollar Bash Sloth Journeyman’s Grace Sickness and Diseases Woman or a Man Hiring Fair Claudy Banks Slip Jigs and Reels John Gaudie Canny Capers Walk Awhile John Condon The Lark in the Morning Learning The Game Bird from the Mountain I let them off Tokyo and A Cup of Tea... on compassionate grounds. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Chris Dennis on March 30, 2016, 12:26:09 AM They want us to include "infrequently, if ever, played tracks" but these are hardly likely to feature in the overall top 20 based on 1 point per song.
It would be good to split it into eras as mentioned by other posts as if they had only just done Matty Groves, for example, on the latest album then it wouldn't make the top 20 purely on the number of times it had been played over the years. Conversely if John Condon had been on one of the early albums I'm sure it would be up there with the best of them now. I fear the set will be heavily weighted to oldies and very few from the excellent studio albums released by the current and longest serving line-up. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: davidmjs on March 30, 2016, 07:23:17 AM I fear the set will be heavily weighted to oldies and very few from the excellent studio albums released by the current and longest serving line-up. We exist in very different worlds. I suppose I do have some sympathy with the band trying to find a solution that pleases all parties (and probably ends up pleasing none). Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Field 7 is Heaven (Trev) on March 30, 2016, 09:15:20 AM There are some things you don't mess with.
Christmas needs to stay on December 25th. The Cup final needs to be in May and Fairports need to end every live performance with Matty groves followed by Meet on the Ledge. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: YaBB Master (Colin) on March 30, 2016, 09:29:40 AM I fear the set will be heavily weighted to oldies and very few from the excellent studio albums released by the current and longest serving line-up. From experience even trying to split it into eras won't placate the 'Heyday' brigade. They will become enraged that the fifth best song on L&L has to be dropped, to make room for anything recorded after 1975. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: hendo (Dave) on March 30, 2016, 09:30:38 AM They want us to include "infrequently, if ever, played tracks" but these are hardly likely to feature in the overall top 20 based on 1 point per song. Chris, I suspect that with all bands, 'infrequently , or rarely played tracks ' are that for a reason, i.e people don't like them much. There is always the argument,do bands play their hits or new or unknown stuff? At Cropredy, people seem to want bands to do their well known material. I enjoyed watching Robert Plant and Priory of Brion at Cropredy,doing rarer, unknown R and B,songs from the 60's. It did not go down well with the majority of the audience. Sadly, sometimes, you have to give an audience what they want. A thought. Recent Ian Anderson gigs have seen him doing new stuff in the first half and classic stuff, often audience requested ,in the second. Could Fairports adopt this model in concert? Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: hendo (Dave) on March 30, 2016, 09:38:03 AM I fear the set will be heavily weighted to oldies and very few from the excellent studio albums released by the current and longest serving line-up. From experience even trying to split it into eras won't placate the 'Heyday' brigade. They will become enraged that the fifth best song on L&L has to be dropped, to make room for anything recorded after 1975. Possibly cos the fifth best song on L and L is better than anything recorded after 1975? ::) Big Kiss Colin ;D Hopefully I am not a Heydayer. Bring Tam Lin and Wounded Whale back in to the set with a screaming lead guitar. As I have said before.... Fairports have been several different bands, you need representation from all of them. The question of course is, can the present line up play some of the material? Maart's, RT's and Donahues absence makes some material unlikely. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Chris on March 30, 2016, 09:58:32 AM It's a serious anniversary. Those tracks Chris mentions generally get played most/every year (choices from, of course)
Just for *one* year, listen to tracks from their history you rarely hear - what's so wrong with that? Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: hendo (Dave) on March 30, 2016, 10:08:20 AM It's a serious anniversary. Those tracks Chris mentions generally get played most/every year (choices from, of course) Just for *one* year, listen to tracks from their history you rarely hear - what's so wrong with that? I have no problems with that at all Colin. It would appeal to me. The questions are, Could the present band recreate some of them?and Would the majority of a Fairport concert audience want to hear rarer tracks? Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Chris on March 30, 2016, 10:12:44 AM I don't think it would affect ticket sales, but agree that pax need to be informed on purchase - which can easily be done in the venue diary blurb & in FC newsletters
Conversely, of course, it might bring back to the audience long-lost fans of the old tracks :-) Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Jules Gray on March 30, 2016, 10:43:36 AM Just for *one* year, listen to tracks from their history you rarely hear - what's so wrong with that? I have no problems with that at all Colin. It would appeal to me. The questions are, Could the present band recreate some of them?and Would the majority of a Fairport concert audience want to hear rarer tracks? The other question is: why are you calling Chris "Colin"? ;D Jules Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: hendo (Dave) on March 30, 2016, 11:01:46 AM Just for *one* year, listen to tracks from their history you rarely hear - what's so wrong with that? I have no problems with that at all Colin. It would appeal to me. The questions are, Could the present band recreate some of them?and Would the majority of a Fairport concert audience want to hear rarer tracks? The other question is: why are you calling Chris "Colin"? ;D Jules It is a good question and one deserving of an answer..... Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: hendo (Dave) on March 30, 2016, 11:04:38 AM I don't think it would affect ticket sales, but agree that pax need to be informed on purchase - which can easily be done in the venue diary blurb & in FC newsletters Conversely, of course, it might bring back to the audience long-lost fans of the old tracks :-) The latter would work for me but as you can see from my choices earlier in this thread, they are quite conservative. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: jimc on March 30, 2016, 10:16:04 PM The questions are, Could the present band recreate some of them?and Would the majority of a Fairport concert audience want to hear rarer tracks? Might not a significant part of the interest be in how a very different lineup approached the material, and hopefully brought something new to it? Wounded Whale, for instance, was certainly a synthesizer/electric guitar tour-de-force, but could it be approached a different way? I dunno, how about a twin electric fiddle feature with Rick playing the whale and Chris the whalers? Didn't the "Unplugged" fashion certainly demonstrated that audiences, suitably briefed, may welcome songs being given radically different treatment to the familiar arrangements? Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: hendo (Dave) on March 30, 2016, 10:28:24 PM The questions are, Could the present band recreate some of them?and Would the majority of a Fairport concert audience want to hear rarer tracks? Might not a significant part of the interest be in how a very different lineup approached the material, and hopefully brought something new to it? Wounded Whale, for instance, was certainly a synthesizer/electric guitar tour-de-force, but could it be approached a different way? I dunno, how about a twin electric fiddle feature with Rick playing the whale and Chris the whalers? Didn't the "Unplugged" fashion certainly demonstrated that audiences, suitably briefed, may welcome songs being given radically different treatment to the familiar arrangements? True Jim. I just miss guitar led folk rock Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: PaulT on March 31, 2016, 07:06:50 AM ... Perhaps a separate thread for suggestions for FC-related bands/artists for Cropredy 2017? I'd propose Steeleye Span, the "Rise Up" Albion Band (no Pickett, obvs), Morris On, RT Band.
(And if a "big draw" is felt to be needed... who?) Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: davidmjs on March 31, 2016, 07:08:41 AM I just miss guitar led folk rock I just came over all wistful for a moment there... :'( Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: hendo (Dave) on March 31, 2016, 07:12:38 AM I just miss guitar led folk rock I just came over all wistful for a moment there... :'( If you haven't already David, give Trad Arrr a listen. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: davidmjs on March 31, 2016, 07:41:25 AM I just miss guitar led folk rock I just came over all wistful for a moment there... :'( If you haven't already David, give Trad Arrr a listen. I keep meaning to, actually. Note to self: Do! Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: hendo (Dave) on March 31, 2016, 09:35:52 AM I just miss guitar led folk rock I just came over all wistful for a moment there... :'( If you haven't already David, give Trad Arrr a listen. I keep meaning to, actually. Note to self: Do! IM'd you some links David Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: davidmjs on March 31, 2016, 06:13:54 PM I just miss guitar led folk rock I just came over all wistful for a moment there... :'( If you haven't already David, give Trad Arrr a listen. I keep meaning to, actually. Note to self: Do! IM'd you some links David You have! Thanks, man...good stuff. It seems Folk-Rock isn't quite dead, after all :) Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: PaulT on March 31, 2016, 06:46:12 PM ... Perhaps a separate thread for suggestions for FC-related bands/artists for Cropredy 2017? I'd propose Steeleye Span, the "Rise Up" Albion Band (no Pickett, obvs), Morris On, RT Band. (And if a "big draw" is felt to be needed... who?) Whoops, forgot Trad Arr, and of course the Judy Dyble Band/Trader Horne. And how about a Whippersnapper reunion gig? ;) Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Peter H-K on April 03, 2016, 04:55:29 PM (And if a "big draw" is felt to be needed... who?) Yes, that's a good idea. Doubt they'd do it though. ;) Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: davidmjs on April 03, 2016, 05:03:54 PM ...the "Rise Up" Albion Band I'm always amazed this hasn't been done. That's such a fine album. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Dan O. on April 03, 2016, 07:20:13 PM ...the "Rise Up" Albion Band I'm always amazed this hasn't been done. That's such a fine album. Well, Ric Sanders would be up for it : "...I live in permanent hope that configuration [of The Albion Band] will one day reunite and play some shows, not enough people saw us on the one tour we did." (quote from Hinton & Wall's Ashley Hutchings biography Always Chasing Rainbows) Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: davidmjs on April 04, 2016, 08:03:06 AM ...the "Rise Up" Albion Band I'm always amazed this hasn't been done. That's such a fine album. Well, Ric Sanders would be up for it : "...I live in permanent hope that configuration [of The Albion Band] will one day reunite and play some shows, not enough people saw us on the one tour we did." (quote from Hinton & Wall's Ashley Hutchings biography Always Chasing Rainbows) Ric's brilliant on that album. To these blinkered old ears it's the only bit of folk-rock he's ever been involved in. Title: Re: Choose The Set for 2017 Post by: Adam on May 09, 2016, 06:43:37 PM After much deliberation, here we go....
Time will show the wiser Tale in a hard time Si Tu dois partir Come all ye Crazy man Michael Sir Patrick Spens Wizard of the worldly game Rosie Bring em down Stranger to himself One more chance Run Johnny run Set me up Summer before the war Wounded whale Naked highwayman Western wind Over the falls South Dakota to Manchester Festival bell Much harder than I first thought! |