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Title: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: John(txic) on July 19, 2016, 02:31:53 PM
I had the pleasure of seeing this power trio perform at the old JB's ages ago - sometime in the late '70s?

Did they ever release any recordings from this era?



Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Jules Gray on July 19, 2016, 02:42:57 PM
One (or two?) live track(s) turned up on the Fairport Unconventional box.  Can't think of any other releases.

Jules


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Will S on July 19, 2016, 02:51:23 PM
Was that when they apparently toured under the name Three Desperate Mortgages? :)


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: davidmjs on July 19, 2016, 05:18:36 PM
There's some (at least two I can think of) nice recordings around.


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Will S on July 20, 2016, 11:48:04 AM

There's some (at least two I can think of) nice recordings around.


Of individual songs, or whole performances?


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: davidmjs on July 20, 2016, 06:06:04 PM


There's some (at least two I can think of) nice recordings around.


Of individual songs, or whole performances?


the latter...unofficial I'm talking about (just to be clear)


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Jamie73 on July 22, 2016, 12:43:40 PM
Didn't see that trio but saw another one - Nicol, Mattacks & Whetstone, at the Sunnyside in Northampton in 1989. Do any recordings of that trio exist?


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: davidmjs on July 22, 2016, 12:54:23 PM

Didn't see that trio but saw another one - Nicol, Mattacks & Whetstone, at the Sunnyside in Northampton in 1989. Do any recordings of that trio exist?


Never even knew that trio existed.  Wouldn't mind a listen myself if any did.


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Jim on July 22, 2016, 01:06:02 PM


Didn't see that trio but saw another one - Nicol, Mattacks & Whetstone, at the Sunnyside in Northampton in 1989. Do any recordings of that trio exist?


Never even knew that trio existed.  Wouldn't mind a listen myself if any did.


i think i might have a wax cylinder of that particular trio, but i just cant find the damned thing!


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: StephenGiles on July 23, 2016, 06:15:53 PM

Didn't see that trio but saw another one - Nicol, Mattacks & Whetstone, at the Sunnyside in Northampton in 1989. Do any recordings of that trio exist?


Yes indeed, they did a session for Folk on 2 which I have on one of my hard discs somewhere.


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Adam on July 24, 2016, 02:54:54 PM


Didn't see that trio but saw another one - Nicol, Mattacks & Whetstone, at the Sunnyside in Northampton in 1989. Do any recordings of that trio exist?


Yes indeed, they did a session for Folk on 2 which I have on one of my hard discs somewhere.


If you ever find it, please let us know!


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: StephenGiles on August 02, 2016, 09:37:35 PM
Here you go!!
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mcvjzqs7jh21ina/AACcWmtBQP9aZul5vb2x9ECPa?dl=0

I'm sure my dear wife recorded this but was not over-cautious in her choice of cassette!!


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Chris on August 03, 2016, 11:28:39 AM
That says "Whetstone, Nicol & Mattacks"!


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: GubGub (Al) on August 03, 2016, 12:17:49 PM

That says "Whetstone, Nicol & Mattacks"!


That is what they were talking about. See three posts immediately above.


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Adam on August 03, 2016, 01:07:06 PM

Here you go!!
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mcvjzqs7jh21ina/AACcWmtBQP9aZul5vb2x9ECPa?dl=0

I'm sure my dear wife recorded this but was not over-cautious in her choice of cassette!!

Brilliant! Many thanks


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Chris on August 03, 2016, 01:14:11 PM
Thanks Gubgub.....oops


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: StephenGiles on August 03, 2016, 06:44:45 PM


Here you go!!
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mcvjzqs7jh21ina/AACcWmtBQP9aZul5vb2x9ECPa?dl=0

I'm sure my dear wife recorded this but was not over-cautious in her choice of cassette!!

Brilliant! Many thanks


I might even have a better quality version on one of several hundred cassettes!!


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Jamie73 on August 04, 2016, 09:04:08 AM
Great stuff!


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Chris on September 06, 2016, 04:18:51 PM
Swarb & Simon's In the Club has been remastered & being re-released on Sept 23 on Talking Elephant - £10.49 at Proper

http://www.propermusic.com/product-details/Dave-Swarbrick-and-Simon-Nicol-In-the-Club-241421?utm_source=Sign-Up.to&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=14047-257309-PMC232a+-+Forthcoming+Releases+%2816.09.16+-+23.09.16%29


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on September 06, 2016, 04:39:34 PM

Swarb & Simon's In the Club has been remastered & being re-released on Sept 23 on Talking Elephant - £10.49 at Proper

http://www.propermusic.com/product-details/Dave-Swarbrick-and-Simon-Nicol-In-the-Club-241421?utm_source=Sign-Up.to&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=14047-257309-PMC232a+-+Forthcoming+Releases+%2816.09.16+-+23.09.16%29


Blimey... Got that on cassette!


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: quodlibet (Ian) on September 06, 2016, 05:42:23 PM
"The third, 'In The Club' has never appeared in any format other than it's original, limited release cassette format, until now. Fully remastered for CD and with previously unreleased bonus material."

That's a bit curious as I'm currently looking at a CD copy of "In The Club" issued in 2010 by Talking Elephant. As far as bonus material, yes, it has four extra tracks to the original cassette, but is shorn of the fifth bonus  track ("O'Carolan's Farewell To Music") on the 2010 issue.  :)



Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Jules Gray on September 06, 2016, 07:08:12 PM

"The third, 'In The Club' has never appeared in any format other than it's original, limited release cassette format, until now. Fully remastered for CD and with previously unreleased bonus material."

That's a bit curious as I'm currently looking at a CD copy of "In The Club" issued in 2010 by Talking Elephant. As far as bonus material, yes, it has four extra tracks to the original cassette, but is shorn of the fifth bonus track ("O'Carolan's Farewell To Music") on the 2010 issue.  :)


Hmm, good point.  It's worth bearing in mind though that Talking Elephant are often a wee bit borderline when it comes to legitimacy.  That point of view may well be behind those words you quoted.

Jules


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: GubGub (Al) on September 06, 2016, 07:34:30 PM

"The third, 'In The Club' has never appeared in any format other than it's original, limited release cassette format, until now. Fully remastered for CD and with previously unreleased bonus material."

That's a bit curious as I'm currently looking at a CD copy of "In The Club" issued in 2010 by Talking Elephant. As far as bonus material, yes, it has four extra tracks to the original cassette, but is shorn of the fifth bonus  track ("O'Carolan's Farewell To Music") on the 2010 issue.  :)




Yes I have the 2010 reissue too. It was released alongside When We Were Very Young.

As for the legitimacy of Talking Elephant, I think everything they do is fully licensed and above board. Indeed Ashley Hutchings works quite closely with them on his reissues. But their information and publicity can be wayward and often severely lacking. Proper have obviously swallowed TE's press release wholesale.


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: folkfreak (Alexander) on September 07, 2016, 02:59:23 PM
Its the third CD release already, but I did not expect anything different from Talking Elephant.
For me one of the big rip-of companies


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: davidmjs on September 07, 2016, 05:16:28 PM

Talking Elephant.
For me one of the big rip-of companies


Care to elaborote?  I know for a fact (don't ask me how) they have purchased boot CDs and then released them.  One could argue that is actually restoring the 'ripped off' product to the artist.  Having said all of that...there is more than the hint of 'that will do then' about the vast majority of their releases I have owned.  And their covers seem to be almost uniformly dreadful....


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Jules Gray on September 07, 2016, 05:36:03 PM

Having said all of that...there is more than the hint of 'that will do then' about the vast majority of their releases I have owned.  And their covers seem to be almost uniformly dreadful....


Amen.  And as for recording or personnel information - forget it.

Jules


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Jim on December 12, 2016, 11:45:33 AM



Didn't see that trio but saw another one - Nicol, Mattacks & Whetstone, at the Sunnyside in Northampton in 1989. Do any recordings of that trio exist?


Never even knew that trio existed.  Wouldn't mind a listen myself if any did.


i think i might have a wax cylinder of that particular trio, but i just cant find the damned thing!



it being a murky old day, with not much going on,I am having a sort out and have just found my copy of their radio session on one of my hard drives


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Alan2 on December 12, 2016, 04:09:30 PM
I just found out this had a vinyl reissue too, on the very nice Music on Vinyl label. 2010.


Title: Re: Swarbrick, Pegg & Nicol
Post by: Delfini (Diane) on December 12, 2016, 06:24:48 PM


Swarb & Simon's In the Club has been remastered & being re-released on Sept 23 on Talking Elephant - £10.49 at Proper

http://www.propermusic.com/product-details/Dave-Swarbrick-and-Simon-Nicol-In-the-Club-241421?utm_source=Sign-Up.to&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=14047-257309-PMC232a+-+Forthcoming+Releases+%2816.09.16+-+23.09.16%29


Blimey... Got that on cassette!


Me too....signed!