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Title: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: Alan2 on December 07, 2016, 12:39:09 PM
https://www.amazon.co.uk/May-You-Never-Essential-Martyn/dp/B01MPWG39H/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1481114009&sr=1-1&keywords=john+martyn

Tracklisting looks comprehensive, and the price is great. If I didn't have all of this stuff at least once, I'd be tempted. Cripes, i'm tempted anyway.


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: PaulT on December 07, 2016, 12:54:03 PM
Thanks Alan - I've just ordered it!


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: Alan2 on December 07, 2016, 01:03:32 PM

Thanks Alan - I've just ordered it!


Enjoy, Paul.  8)


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: Chris on December 07, 2016, 01:18:42 PM
and me....


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: davidmjs on June 30, 2020, 10:17:23 AM
And here's something to read.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/jun/30/small-hours-the-long-night-of-john-martyn-by-graeme-thomson-review

Love the art, not the artist and all that...


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: DarrenWilliams on June 30, 2020, 10:49:03 AM

And here's something to read.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/jun/30/small-hours-the-long-night-of-john-martyn-by-graeme-thomson-review

Love the art, not the artist and all that...


I don't think I can bear to read that.


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: davidmjs on June 30, 2020, 10:59:22 AM


And here's something to read.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/jun/30/small-hours-the-long-night-of-john-martyn-by-graeme-thomson-review

Love the art, not the artist and all that...


I don't think I can bear to read that.


Perversely, I'm really looking forward to it.  I've long known he was an utter [insert swear word of choice].  In fact I've witnessed him behaving disgracefully (and arguably, abusively) outside Folkestone Lees Cliff Hall before a gig in the late 80's.  And I adore a vast amount of his music, and enjoyed a great deal of his gigs right up to that very challenging to watch Cropredy slot.  So I'm fully prepared for "very complex and flawed character makes very beautiful music" content.  


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: Alan2 on June 30, 2020, 11:00:55 AM


And here's something to read.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/jun/30/small-hours-the-long-night-of-john-martyn-by-graeme-thomson-review

Love the art, not the artist and all that...


I don't think I can bear to read that.


Me neither.


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: Jules Gray on June 30, 2020, 04:25:29 PM

Perversely, I'm really looking forward to it.  I've long known he was an utter [insert swear word of choice].  In fact I've witnessed him behaving disgracefully (and arguably, abusively) outside Folkestone Lees Cliff Hall before a gig in the late 80's.  And I adore a vast amount of his music, and enjoyed a great deal of his gigs right up to that very challenging to watch Cropredy slot.  So I'm fully prepared for "very complex and flawed character makes very beautiful music" content.  


I was talking on the phone to a mate about this very subject just an hour ago, under the umbrella theme of how much can one or should one separate the art from the artist.

Important to remember that John could also be sensitive and loving.  Complex is indeed the word.

Jules


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: davidmjs on June 30, 2020, 04:34:37 PM


Perversely, I'm really looking forward to it.  I've long known he was an utter [insert swear word of choice].  In fact I've witnessed him behaving disgracefully (and arguably, abusively) outside Folkestone Lees Cliff Hall before a gig in the late 80's.  And I adore a vast amount of his music, and enjoyed a great deal of his gigs right up to that very challenging to watch Cropredy slot.  So I'm fully prepared for "very complex and flawed character makes very beautiful music" content.  


I was talking on the phone to a mate about this very subject just an hour ago, under the umbrella theme of how much can one or should one separate the art from the artist.

Important to remember that John could also be sensitive and loving.  Complex is indeed the word.

Jules


I make a bloody habit of it.  My favourite artist is Eric Gill ffs  :)


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: Jules Gray on June 30, 2020, 06:12:48 PM

My favourite artist is Eric Gill ffs  :)


I know nothing.  Off to Google.

Jules



Edit:  :o


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: quodlibet (Ian) on June 30, 2020, 06:56:32 PM


My favourite artist is Eric Gill ffs  :)


I know nothing.  Off to Google.

Jules



Edit:  :o



Look at the old LT HQ at 55 Broadway SW1.

Btw, can we now like Gary Glitter's 'music' then?   ;D ;)


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: Peter H-K on June 30, 2020, 07:10:19 PM

Btw, can we now like Gary Glitter's 'music' then?   ;D ;)


Frankly, that was always a big ask.


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: davidmjs on June 30, 2020, 07:30:23 PM


Btw, can we now like Gary Glitter's 'music' then?   ;D ;)


Frankly, that was always a big ask.


Just don't knock the Glitter Band.


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: DarrenWilliams on July 01, 2020, 11:49:33 AM
I've just started reading the Phil Lynott biog by the same author. Until now I didn't realise how personal his lyrics were, especially the early ones. He really had a tough upbringing, with two absent parents.

On the strength of this book, I might reconsider reading the John Martyn one.


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: davidmjs on July 01, 2020, 11:56:39 AM

I've just started reading the Phil Lynott biog by the same author. Until now I didn't realise how personal his lyrics were, especially the early ones. He really had a tough upbringing, with two absent parents.

On the strength of this book, I might reconsider reading the John Martyn one.


Is there anything about Dr Strangely Strange in the Lynott book?


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: DarrenWilliams on July 01, 2020, 01:22:39 PM


I've just started reading the Phil Lynott biog by the same author. Until now I didn't realise how personal his lyrics were, especially the early ones. He really had a tough upbringing, with two absent parents.

On the strength of this book, I might reconsider reading the John Martyn one.


Is there anything about Dr Strangely Strange in the Lynott book?


There are a few quotes from Tim Booth about Phil, and it covers the Dublin folk/poetry scene around 1969 including Dr Strangely Strange


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: davidmjs on July 01, 2020, 02:00:35 PM



I've just started reading the Phil Lynott biog by the same author. Until now I didn't realise how personal his lyrics were, especially the early ones. He really had a tough upbringing, with two absent parents.

On the strength of this book, I might reconsider reading the John Martyn one.


Is there anything about Dr Strangely Strange in the Lynott book?


There are a few quotes from Tim Booth about Phil, and it covers the Dublin folk/poetry scene around 1969 including Dr Strangely Strange


Thanks, Darren.  Tim did the original logo (or one of them) as I recall...


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: davidmjs on July 01, 2020, 06:26:41 PM




I've just started reading the Phil Lynott biog by the same author. Until now I didn't realise how personal his lyrics were, especially the early ones. He really had a tough upbringing, with two absent parents.

On the strength of this book, I might reconsider reading the John Martyn one.


Is there anything about Dr Strangely Strange in the Lynott book?


There are a few quotes from Tim Booth about Phil, and it covers the Dublin folk/poetry scene around 1969 including Dr Strangely Strange


Thanks, Darren.  Tim did the original logo (or one of them) as I recall...



Incidentally, here is a kind of a tribute to Phil song that Tim Booth wrote and which was on the third (and to date, final) Dr SS studio album (from '97) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In2K-JoMrFU


Title: Re: John Martyn starter kit.
Post by: DarrenWilliams on July 01, 2020, 06:35:46 PM




I've just started reading the Phil Lynott biog by the same author. Until now I didn't realise how personal his lyrics were, especially the early ones. He really had a tough upbringing, with two absent parents.

On the strength of this book, I might reconsider reading the John Martyn one.


Is there anything about Dr Strangely Strange in the Lynott book?


There are a few quotes from Tim Booth about Phil, and it covers the Dublin folk/poetry scene around 1969 including Dr Strangely Strange


Thanks, Darren.  Tim did the original logo (or one of them) as I recall...



He definitely did a few singles and Philips poetry/lyric book.