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In the process of digging out and digitising my old LPs, I have come across my copy of RT's (guitar, vocal), and am wondering if any of the tracks on there have not now been released on other albums, either compilations or as bonus tracks?

Having done a little research, it looks to me as if the ones that haven't (or which I don't have, anyway) are:

Mr Lacey (1968 BBC session) - on the 19 disc Sandy box (which I don't have), but not elsewhere?
A Heart Needs A Home (alternate take) - on the Island Years compilation (which I don't have), but not elsewhere?
Flee As A Bird - not available elsewhere?
The Pitfall/The Excursion - not available elsewhere?

Am I right?  

I'd say regarding Flee As A Bird & Pitfall that sounds correct. Don't remember them ever cropping up anywhere else.

Thanks for the break down of this album.  I'd often wondered.  I really must get a copy of it someday.

Jules

You really must Jules. One of my favorites is It'll Be Me. The vocal is a little ragged but the reason I love it is for Peggy's bass playing. The line he employs throughout is almost simultaneously a rhythm guitar AND bass. Very impressive.

Which is also available as a bonus track on the 2004 release of Hokey Pokey and on the In Concert, November 1975 album

This prompted me to check out "guitar, vocal" on Amazon - it's currently £40, so I'm pleased I have it! It prompts me to ask - what do you all think is the most rare RT / FC album on CD?

The AT2/The Boot/Other Boot/Third Leg reissues must be pretty high up the list...

Sunnyvista and First Light on CD also. I am lucky to have picked up copies of the Hannibal releases at one of my first Cropredys but they are pretty hard to come by now.

Incidentally I picked up (guitar, vocal) at the same time. It has always been one of my favourite RT releases though most of it has now been released in other forms. Does the remixed/re-recorded Poor Will appear anywhere else? Is the version on the Full House reissue the original recording?

Was just about to say First Light, the only official studio album by Richard I don’t own. Did not realize Sunnyvista was such a rarity though. At one point Small Town Romance was certainly a rarity. For Fairport I’d guess Gottle O’ Geer or maybe the Phonogram albums?

Still available in MP3 format free, from me, with permission of Mr Nicol et al.

Gottle and the Vertigo albums are pretty easy to get on CD as they were part of the reissue programme. Original vinyl might be different.

I neglected to say that in the US they might be harder to track down. A quick search on Amazon US showed them to be a pretty steep price. Glad I got mine when I did!

It's also on a rather wonderful Japanese issue of House Full, which includes everything from the CD and vinyl House Full and Live at the L.A. Troubadour variants.

I've managed to get The Boot / AT2, The Other Boot / The Third Leg, First Light, and Sunnyvista on CDs at pretty decent prices over the years, thanks to some diligent eBay hunting.

Jules

I've gotten them all as well, but it wasn't easy. My CD of AT2/The Boot had to pass through London and be hand-delivered to me in Las Vegas before I got it home to Texas. I have actually been listening to it again lately, and I have to say it was worth it.  :)

...and my Hannibal copy of Sunnyvista has disc rot; I managed to copy it to a CDR before it went completely blank.

It's on the Come All Ye box too.  I think the version on the Full House reissue doesn't have Linda's backing vocals, which the (guitar, vocal) version does.

Gosh I still have my Hannibal copy of this from the days when I bought RT and Fairport stuff. Last time I looked it was rather collectable. Can't say I play it a lot so maybe I should remedy that.

That's right.  The original mix has Swarb singing a harmony.  Richard replaced his and Swarb's vocals with himself and Linda.

Jules

Anybody ever seen a copy of this?  I'd never even heard of it until 5 mins ago... https://www.discogs.com/Richard-Thompson-Richard-Thompson-Live-More-Or-Less/release/7690516

Yes, I am pretty sure I first saw it mentioned in my 1975 NME Encyclopedia of Rock, which I cannot find at the moment. It is the North American release of (guitar, vocal)

No, it isn't.

Well, it is but with I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight on a second disc (which is actually disc 1 of the set). I appreciate that some of tracks from gv are missing but it was the equivalent release at the time. gv was not released in the US in its own right until 1984.

Here is what Wikipedia says about it- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live!_(More_or_Less)

However, I just pulled out the Discography at the end of the Patrick Humprhies bio and it lists this as being a Canadian release in 1976 with the Island catalog number ILPS 9421.

I mean it isn't Guitar, Vocal...but it sort of is at the same time with half the tracks. I'm guessing it was someone's attempt to fill the void during the retreat years.

I'm thinking that the "live" is less rather than more.

Jules

I think you may be right!  ;D ;D

https://www.discogs.com/Richard-Thompson-Richard-Thompson-Live-More-Or-Less

The notes for this album say that "Pitfall" and "Flee" were recorded 1976.  Was he planning an instrumental album then? Or were they recorded as fillers for "guitar/voc"? I really like those two tunes

I'm guessing they were recorded especially for the album, as the sleeve notes say that they were recorded a month apart in March and April 1976, which would have been around the time it was being prepared.  So they also show Thowaway Street Puzzle being remixed by John Wood at the same studios on the same day that Flee was recorded.

Well, I've just picked up a nice cassette version of (g, v).  Because I can.

This album has been re-issued, but on Amazon there's a review that says the sound quality is poor.

Has anyone here bought this reissue and can comment on the sound quality?

It might depend on what pressing house was  used for the reissue.  Some Island/universal vinyl is very good, but some us atrocious.