Guitarist's Forum

[John Beresford]

It's a copy, right?

[Leighton]

Just a thought, Leighton, and certainly not wanting to spoil anyone's fun, but are there copyright issues here?

Geoff

Quite right Geoff,

And I thought to myself should I or shouldn't I. But with the book being out of print and Leola not selling it, what the hell.

It's easy to remove the pages if there is a problem, but I'm sure it's better giving people the oppourtunity of playing Ralph's songs as he intended them to be played.

I am easy.

See you Thursday.  

[Al]

Thanks Leighton, although I cant see the pics for some reason

There's a whole raft of songs never published in tab that I am sure there would be interest in, common ones seem to be Mrs Adlams Angels, Mermaid And The Seagull, Bentley & craig, Spiral Staircase, Michael In The Garden, Silver Birch And Weeping Willow, In Some Way I loved You, First And Last Man, River Rising, Red And Gold, Song For Martin.... the list goes on and on. Maybe its not deemed commercially viable to do it, but I've often thought that it would not be a major task to compile them and make them available electronically from the official website, or elsewhere with permission, maybe for a small fee on a song by song basis.

I suppose showing scans of copyrighted pages is different to tabbing out one's own idea of what Ralph is playing on something, but I guess that infringes copyright too. Certainly a case for another volume of songs for six strings, maybe some time after Ralph's next studio album has been released. I seem to be able to work most of what I want to play but not everyone is able to do that. People derive a lot of pleasure from playing tunes they love so much. I have no idea, obviously, how the economics of the tab books work out, but text files containing what people think he is playing cost them nothing, unless they have plans to release the tabs in a commercial format some time in the future. On that basis I see no harm otherwise.

[Leighton]

Al,

if you can't see pictures the links are

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/klt/clown01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/klt/clown02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/klt/clown03.jpg

let me know if there is a problem

[Al]

Hi Leighton, thanks for the links. Its turned out that Vodafone considers it restricted content, so I'l get them using my work account.  

[A french fan]

Thanks to you Leighton

I have soon bought "Song for six strings" last year , but this song (clown) was not inside

now I have to practice  ...

[CarlWoodb]

Thanks for that Leighton,

Clown  - Good grief look at those ledger lines    

Hasn't that man ever heard of the bass cleff!   Best get rid of those silly tab lines to get it properly transposed into standard notation  

And as for Grande Affaire - It doesn't sound like Ralph reaches a top C to me  

Carl

[Geoff]

Certainly a case for another volume of songs for six strings...

definitely!  It must be, what, 5 years? since SF6S came out (haven't got mine to hand to check the date).

Time for a petition, methinks!  And voting on which songs should be in it?

I can easily think of another 40 or so that I'd to see in there.

[Al]

Certainly a case for another volume of songs for six strings...

Time for a petition, methinks!  And voting on which songs should be in it?

I can easily think of another 40 or so that I'd to see in there.

hmmm, maybe a new topic is called for so we can post our 'most wanted' lists  

[MAJ]

Your wish.............................

[Al]

Tab for a version Earle's Court Breakdown in the attached text file Wont be far away from the way Ralph plays it  






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[Leighton]

Does anyone know the lyrics for ECB ?


Earl’s Court Breakdown.

By Ralph McTell

Earl’s Court, one room with cooker,
Down the Gloucester Road I took her,
We wrestled on a brown settee.
And as the room grew colder
I got a little bolder
And conned a tanner for the old gas fire.

Earl’s Court now what a shakedown
Think I’m gonna have a breakdown
The labour stopped paying me now.
Earl’s Court now what a horror
I can’t even draw my dole
Not enough stamps upon my insurance card.

Ten bob’s worth ? Congo Big Stick ?
First drag it made her feel sick
“This stuff has no effect at all”,
She said to the wall.

Earl’s Court, one room with cooker,
Down the Gloucester Road I took her,
We ? on a brown divan.
And as the dawn comes stealing
Across that peeling ceiling
We heard the commuters go hurrying by.

[John Beresford]

Leighton, ECB was written by Alan Tunbridge to the tune Trambone by Chet Atkins.

Ralph has not (yet) recorded it, though he will sing it in concert if asked...  

Marianne will have the lyrics.  

[Al]

Well, it is nearly Christmas so ............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJXiq-Z5VPw

[Naomi]

It being, as Al says, nearly Christmas, I wondered if any of you have heard this version of a 'popular'  Christmas song by one of Mr McTell's guitar heroes? (Not sure if Ralph has ever expressed an opinion about the singing though   )

Naomi  

[CarlWoodb]

Well, it is nearly Christmas so ............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJXiq-Z5VPw

This is tagged as Ralph McTell and John Renbourn - Has anyone any idea if there's a connection?  

It being, as Al says, nearly Christmas, I wondered if any of you have heard this version of a 'popular'  Christmas song by one of Mr McTell's guitar heroes? Naomi  

I find the voice just too distracting to be able to listen to the guitar for long  

[MAJ]

Marianne will have the lyrics.  

I heard Ralph perform this is Leicester in 2004.  Superb!

Leighton almost had the words.  This is the version Ralph sings.  I've listened to the Bottom Line recording we have, but can't "get" the word referring to what they are doing on the brown divan!  Other than that this is it.  I have contacted Ralph about it too.


Earl’s Court, one room with cooker,
Down the Brompton Road I took her,
We wrestled on a brown settee.
And as the room grew colder
I got a little bolder
And conned a tanner for the old gas fire.

Earl’s Court now what a shakedown
Think I’m gonna have a breakdown
The labour’s stopped paying me now.
Earl’s Court now what a hole
I can’t even draw my dole
I’ve got no stamps upon my green insurance card.
 
Earl’s Court, one room with cooker,
Down the Gloucester Road I took her,
We ? on a brown divan.
Ten bob’s worth Congo Big Stick
First drag it made her feel sick
“This stuff has no effect at all”,
She said to the wall.

Earl’s Court, one room with cooker,
Down the Brompton Road I took her,
We wrestled on a brown settee,
And as the dawn comes stealing
Across that peeling ceiling
We heard the commuters go hurrying by.

[Al]

It being, as Al says, nearly Christmas, I wondered if any of you have heard this version of a 'popular'  Christmas song by one of Mr McTell's guitar heroes? Naomi  

I find the voice just too distracting to be able to listen to the guitar for long  

Yes, the voice is best ignored, if possible, but wonderful playing and spirit, mesmerizing at its best, to my ears anyway  

Elijah Wald does breathtakingly accurate renditions of Spence's playing, if you  can be bothered to sit through all the intro and the tuning up bit you can see a bit of his wonderful DVD here ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqCSf-mIiG0 ), it is a wonderful DVD to watch, as well as an absolute godsend to anybody who has tried to figure out what Spence is doing. The tune he plays here is simple, as befitting the first tune on an instruction DVD , but Wald's playing of "On A Wing And A Prayer" is worth the price of the DVD on its own  

[Al]

Well, it is nearly Christmas so ............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJXiq-Z5VPw

This is tagged as Ralph McTell and John Renbourn - Has anyone any idea if there's a connection?  

Only that I thought more people would be likely to find it with those tags on it   At Henrik's prompting I posted some videos to YouTube and it occurred to me to include me playing this, it being nearly Christmas...  

[Naomi]

Leighton, ECB was written by Alan Tunbridge to the tune Trambone by Chet Atkins.

On Wikipedia it's credited to Alan Tunbridge and Wizz Jones - does anyone know if this is correct, and should we correct it if not?

(I recently corrected a Wikipedia entry that claimed that 'Barges' was a traditional song arranged by Ralph - another 'trad' song to add to 'Clare' ?!   )

I've been listening to ECB on the RA&S site (here) , trying to make out the missing word - sounds a bit like 'chattering', but that doesn't seem to fit the context somehow.  

Naomi