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« Reply #60 on: October 20, 2005, 05:49:39 PM » |
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I was previously in favour of a big screen, however the more I read about it on here & the more I think about it. A simple portable telly at the loos would be all that would be needed...lol (humour...sort of)
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« Reply #61 on: October 20, 2005, 05:58:15 PM » |
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Is there a delay line between the stage and the sound tower speakers? I presume there must be.
Certainly at Cropredy 2002-ish they were experimenting with a delay between the two - it was really annoying if you were a bit betwixt and between though as you got a bit of both (live & delayed), like when there's two TVs on in the house, with the same channel on but one terrestial/one Sky. (Apologies for the longest sentence in the world...ever, just passing  ) |
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« Reply #62 on: October 20, 2005, 06:21:47 PM » |
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The other thing (or is it one of the other things) that hasn't been mentioned yet is that to site a big scrren half way back in the field, keeping the sound towers where they are, would cause a loss of synch between sound and pictures. That is an extremely good point!..... The screen would have to be inline with the speaker towers to stay in sync... Oi! Barry and Chris! Get back to school this minute! It wouldn't matter where you put the screen. Pics travel at the speed of light which is fast enough to be instantaneous* . Sound travels at the speed of, erm, sound which is a lot slower. If the source of the sound is far away you will get a delay in hearing it. You wouldn't notice any delay in the picture though regardless of how far away it is. (* as far as people in a field are concerned. Anyone who mentions stellar distances, astrophysics, etc will be pronounced off-topic and called a pedant!) Having said that, electronics can cause a delay which can change the relationship between sound and vision. This can be worked to advantage. What you need to do is think about who is looking at the screen (i.e. the people at the back) and put a bit of artificial delay in the image so that what is shown is in time with what the majority of viewers are hearing. They do this on the main stage at Glastonbury so when you look at a screen from the back of the field it is roughly in time with the music - at least, not badly out of time. If you look at a screen from the front of the field it appears delayed compared to the stage. Cheers Nick (who thinks big screens at festivals are the equivalent of giant TVs in bars) |
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« Reply #63 on: October 20, 2005, 06:25:03 PM » |
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Nick (who thinks big screens at festivals are the equivalent of giant TVs in bars)
Thats fair enough coming from someone who's twelve foot nine inches tall but for short arses like myself i'd love a big screen. |
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« Reply #64 on: October 20, 2005, 06:28:25 PM » |
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shouldn't that be short arse screen.. soz, just couldn't resist  |
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« Reply #65 on: October 20, 2005, 07:05:16 PM » |
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What you need to do is think about who is looking at the screen (i.e. the people at the back) and put a bit of artificial delay in the image so that what is shown is in time with what the majority of viewers are hearing.....If you look at a screen from the front of the field it appears delayed compared to the stage. But the distance from the back to the stage is relatively short. Hence anyone not directly behind the screen (with a view past the screen to the stage) will get a very strange aparition....the screen out of time with the stage, but in time with what they're listening to.... |
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« Reply #66 on: October 20, 2005, 07:17:43 PM » |
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a very strange aparition....the screen out of time with the stage, but in time with what they're listening to....
But the 6X will cancel that out, surely  |
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« Reply #67 on: October 20, 2005, 07:45:42 PM » |
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What you need to do is think about who is looking at the screen (i.e. the people at the back) and put a bit of artificial delay in the image so that what is shown is in time with what the majority of viewers are hearing.....If you look at a screen from the front of the field it appears delayed compared to the stage. But the distance from the back to the stage is relatively short. Hence anyone not directly behind the screen (with a view past the screen to the stage) will get a very strange aparition....the screen out of time with the stage, but in time with what they're listening to.... True but only when the screen is showing the whole stage, when the light show is out of sync. If the screen doesn't show the whole stage you don't notice the screen-stage sync-ness so much. You're going to get a delay at the back of the arena - that's inevitable - but from the back you can't see much detail of the stage so the timing of what you see of the stage doesn't matter so much. The screen shows close-ups where you can see things like strumming and bowing where the sync with the sound is more important. Cheers Nick |
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« Reply #68 on: October 21, 2005, 08:53:10 AM » |
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« Reply #69 on: October 21, 2005, 09:08:08 AM » |
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I think I'm with Nuts on this one.
I had a splendid view from the bar
and if I wanted to close (Kate Bush for 2006) I could walk down the front
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« Reply #70 on: October 21, 2005, 02:57:02 PM » |
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and if I wanted to close (Kate Bush for 2006) I could walk down the front
or you could walk straight down the middle....................... |
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« Reply #71 on: October 21, 2005, 03:04:06 PM » |
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and if I wanted to close (Kate Bush for 2006) I could walk down the front
or you could walk straight down the middle....................... only in my dreams anji |
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« Reply #72 on: October 21, 2005, 07:20:17 PM » |
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Finally got round to putting my bit into this, by consulting the family. We're all in agreement that a screen would spoil the atmosphere and character. What I find particularly pleasing is that the children, whose expectations are far more technological agree. but then they've never missed a Cropredy all their lives, so maybe the ethos is now well established in them. So with the agreement of the family, my vote is going to the no camp.
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« Reply #73 on: October 22, 2005, 12:18:01 AM » |
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When I want a great view of the band I'll go to a small venue on the wintour.
When I want to hear fine music filling a great natural amphitheatre, take in the stars, the flags and and the buzz I'll go to Croppers.
Just not about the view for me (though I do wander down to the front too).
But that's just me.
Phew!!!!! Been out of touch for a while but luckily back here before closing date!!!! Must agree with Dr M, its the whole ambience that is so great. Far more relaxing to just be there and wander down for a quick'viewing'. |
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« Reply #74 on: October 25, 2005, 06:53:35 PM » |
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OOooo K, seems pretty decisive. I promise I won't mention it again  Now, how about a bar in each corner of the field as well as the main one on the left   |
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« Reply #75 on: October 25, 2005, 08:39:17 PM » |
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What a good idea - with each bar from a different brewery (OK, that won't happen but I can dream)  You would still need directions though, GoatBoy |
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« Reply #76 on: October 25, 2005, 08:50:49 PM » |
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You would still need directions though, GoatBoy GoatBoy Cropredy Survival Secret #1 : 'Go to bar, buy beer, drink beer, dance, rinse, repeat'  ...and don't get a gout attack  |
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« Reply #77 on: October 25, 2005, 11:19:15 PM » |
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Again - cost. Who is going to pay for the double amount of staff?....
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« Reply #78 on: October 26, 2005, 08:53:34 AM » |
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Again - cost. Who is going to pay for the double amount of staff?....
A bit of a spurious argument, I think. Since the bar manages to sell out its beer, there's obviously a demand that outstrips supply. I'm sure that staff can be found to help generate more profits. |
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« Reply #79 on: October 26, 2005, 09:15:57 AM » |
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Not at all - you'll sell a negligable extra amount of beer, for a higher cost basically, including staff (who do get paid!) and materials (lots of wood, etc...)
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