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It was written by James Taylor, Amy and I believed it to refer to a sailor being extracted from the ice after a hundred years or so. His clothes and possessions, even his body were remarkably intact.
I don't know the whole story but there was a tv documentary about it, I remember.
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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2005, 10:34:03 PM » |
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Oohh James Taylor was it.. then I was wrong.. but didn't LW record it?? Or have I got it completely wrong?? Never mind...  |
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2005, 10:18:22 AM » |
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The documentary included footage of 3(?) frozen bodies being uncovered - all very well preserved - back in the 19080s. I remember reading a magazine article on this subject about 10 years ago. Perhaps JT read a similar article (National Geographic?) and took his inspiration from there....? Cracking song anyway.
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2005, 10:20:12 AM » |
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Oohh James Taylor was it.. then I was wrong.. but didn't LW record it?? Or have I got it completely wrong?? Never mind... I don't think Loudon Wainwright has recorded it, I thought Fairport did, or am I completely wrong? |
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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2005, 10:23:46 AM » |
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Oohh James Taylor was it.. then I was wrong.. but didn't LW record it?? Or have I got it completely wrong?? Never mind... I don't think Loudon Wainwright has recorded it, I thought Fairport did, or am I completely wrong? I am sure Loudon sang it. Will have to check albums tonight! |
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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2005, 11:30:29 AM » |
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Oohh James Taylor was it.. then I was wrong.. but didn't LW record it?? Or have I got it completely wrong?? Never mind... I don't think Loudon Wainwright has recorded it, I thought Fairport did, or am I completely wrong? Old New Borrowed Blue from March 96 by Fairport "Acoustic" Convention, in this case Simon,Ric,Peggy and Maart. Steve |
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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2005, 12:32:52 PM » |
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Old New Borrowed Blue from March 96 by Fairport "Acoustic" Convention, in this case Simon,Ric,Peggy and Maart. The same CD had two tracks by Loudon Wainwright (Men & Swimming Song) which is probably where the confusion arises. 'The Frozen Man' was only two years old when Franklin set sail, so no connection there. The version of 'Lord Franklin' sung by Pentangle describes a dream about the expedition. Chris Leslie makes reference to this by starting with the same tune. His song also describes a dream of somebody who did sail with Franklin, but on an earlier expedition. |
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« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2005, 01:22:59 PM » |
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There you go, told you.
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« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2005, 01:42:13 PM » |
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Coming back to Shackleton.. just for a moment... on the news it's just said that it's the 90th anniversary of his ill fated expedition!!!
What a coincidence!!!
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« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2005, 03:14:26 PM » |
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It was written by James Taylor, Amy and I believed it to refer to a sailor being extracted from the ice after a hundred years or so. His clothes and possessions, even his body were remarkably intact.
I don't know the whole story but there was a tv documentary about it, I remember.
You remember well Cocker. That would be "Frozen in Time". See earlier post. I was in a pub quiz in Radnor about15 years ago. The answer to one question was Baffin Bay which I got purely through knowing the song. Afterwards, the team captain asked how I knew the answer. I explained about the song" Lord Franklin". He said, "that's interesting. One of my ancestors was on the Franklin Expedition". Spooky. |
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« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2005, 01:13:10 PM » |
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My two-penn'orth (all from memory here, so apologies if I'm getting it wrong)...
The Fairport song I think you're all searching for on Over the Next Hill is "I'm Already There", which is about a member of one of the Franklin expeditions - the one they didn't all die on. The hero of the song has a brother who is the vicar of a church in Banbury, and the song is about how they're thinking of each other in their very different lives. There also seems to be some kind of supernatural dream-communication going on but I won't delve into that. Chris always mentions the stained glass window in the church in Banbury (St Margaret's ?? St M-something anyway) that shows a ship surrounded by ice.
Sorry if someone's already covered this - I'm catching up an extra day's worth today...
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« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2005, 02:57:15 PM » |
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That's the one Anna!!!! Glad I wasn't hearing things (cos I do y'know  ) Mic |
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« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2005, 07:43:11 PM » |
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Although the tune for "All in Green" on the "Georgia on our Mind" CD is attributed to Martin, whereas in fact it's Mozart! (Second movement of the Hunt quartet). The words are correctly attributed to ee cummings. I suppose having a Mozart tune attributed to you must rank as a major compliment.  Ah, but where did Mozart get it from? It was in fact a pre-exiting folk tune, as are many tunes attributed to Classical composers. Evidence, please. |
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« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2005, 10:49:21 PM » |
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Although the tune for "All in Green" on the "Georgia on our Mind" CD is attributed to Martin, whereas in fact it's Mozart! (Second movement of the Hunt quartet). The words are correctly attributed to ee cummings. I suppose having a Mozart tune attributed to you must rank as a major compliment. Ah, but where did Mozart get it from? It was in fact a pre-exiting folk tune, as are many tunes attributed to Classical composers. Evidence, please. Quite, Barry. ...and you know this because, PLW? Cite your source. |
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« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2005, 08:27:18 PM » |
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Chris always mentions the stained glass window in the church in Banbury (St Margaret's ?? St M-something anyway) THat'd be St Mary's, on Horsefair..... |
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