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It's another vote here for Mock Tudor as the last truly great album that I can listen to without skipping any tracks. There's been some great stuff since, of course, particularly Dream Attic, but some of the rest is patchy.
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A presumably 1969 anonymous "Top Of The Pops" album version of Si Tu Dois Partir, supposedly with Elton John on backing vocals. You're welcome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NJJphyXhVg |
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Interesting. There is a website dedicated to the TOTP releases, and Si Tu Dois Partir doesn't seem to be on any of the 1969 albums. I don't have time to dig deeper - I have to go to work - the site is here http://www.45worlds.com/vinyl/ab_list.php?li=9006There was also Hot Hits https://hothitslps.weebly.com/ but they don't seem to have it either. It does sound very like Sandy though... |
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Hmmmm. I'm a little underwhelmed if truth be told. Both could be from just about any electric album from the last 25 years, couldn't they? The vocals on The Storm Won't Come seem a little weird to me (in a production sense). They sit out in front of the music (I'm not sure if that means anything but that's what my ears think) in a really weird way...and then when the guitar comes in at 3:50ish it just sounds like RT playing guitar as only RT can and does. Awesome and jaw dropping, as always, but with no connection whatsoever to what has preceded it. Bones of Gilead I just don't really like, I'm afraid, especially that "By the flesh of Gilead, By the Bones of Gilead" bit. I'd love to fall in love, really fall in love, with another RT album, but it's been a long, long time.......about half my lifetime. Then again, most of my favourite Fairport albums came out when I was still in shorts, so he ain't done that badly.... Cripes.  I've been trying to stifle this question for several days but it demands to come out. What would you need to hear on a new RT album to make you react to it the same way you reacted to Rumour and Sigh? Sampling? Loops? Dubbing? Rap? |
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I've been trying to stifle this question for several days but it demands to come out. What would you need to hear on a new RT album to make you react to it the same way you reacted to Rumour and Sigh? Sampling? Loops? Dubbing? Rap?
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I've been trying to stifle this question for several days but it demands to come out. What would you need to hear on a new RT album to make you react to it the same way you reacted to Rumour and Sigh? Sampling? Loops? Dubbing? Rap?
Don't be silly, Bob. Nobody would be wanting Richard to go hip-hop. It's always down to the quality of the songs, the melodies, the words, and of course the guitar playing and other accompaniment. Jules Also the production and to a large extent, unfamiliarity. Even though RT was nearly 20 years into his post Fairport career at that point, his "solo" style was still developing when Rumor & Sigh came out and to a large degree that album set the template for much of the rest of his career. I think he has been remarkably consistent in subsequent decades but has perhaps lost the capacity to surprise. Personally I would take Amnesia, Hand of Kindness and perhaps Mirror Blue over Rumor & Sigh from that era and sort of agree that Mock Tudor was the last truly great album (and my personal favourite) though The Old Kit Bag comes close. All of the others are a mix of the great with the merely very good (though I might make exceptions for Front Parlour Ballads which I have never warmed to and the acoustic demos disc 2 of Dream Attic which outstrips the electric disc by a distance imho). |
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Don't be silly, Bob. Nobody would be wanting Richard to go hip-hop. It's always down to the quality of the songs, the melodies, the words, and of course the guitar playing and other accompaniment. Jules Also the production and to a large extent, unfamiliarity. Even though RT was nearly 20 years into his post Fairport career at that point, his "solo" style was still developing when Rumor & Sigh came out and to a large degree that album set the template for much of the rest of his career. I think he has been remarkably consistent in subsequent decades but has perhaps lost the capacity to surprise. Personally I would take Amnesia, Hand of Kindness and perhaps Mirror Blue over Rumor & Sigh from that era and sort of agree that Mock Tudor was the last truly great album (and my personal favourite) though The Old Kit Bag comes close. All of the others are a mix of the great with the merely very good (though I might make exceptions for Front Parlour Ballads which I have never warmed to and the acoustic demos disc 2 of Dream Attic which outstrips the electric disc by a distance imho). I feel like in some ways, the slight uptick in success and name recognition after Rumor & Sigh (and maybe I'm just talking about the US here) left Richard a little baffled about what direction he wanted to take career wise afterwords. Of course there would always be the guitar, but Vincent left him in a bit of a quandary I think. Beeswing is great of course, but Mirror Blue felt like a carbon copy of Rumor & Sigh otherwise, including what felt like a record label demand he write another song similar to Vincent (Shane & Dixie). Then we had You? Me? Us which confused the ground further. Are you an acoustic songsmith or an electric one? With the exception of Mock Tudor the rest follows this formula I believe. And that's not a knock. A mediocre RT album is still better than a lot of other stuff, but I've never been entirely convinced of at least a good third of his material since Rumor & Sigh. Meaning they don't get into my heart the way every song did on Amnesia. The way every song did on Daring Adventures. I just looked at my Ipod now at The Old Kit Bag and in my head right now I couldn't even remember one bit of how First Breath or Got No Right starts off. If I played them it would come back of course, but its the music in the head...called to mind at a fleeting thought that is what sticks with you. And I guess that is what I mean. Not as many grab me as they used to. |
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« Reply #1469 on: July 24, 2018, 07:10:56 PM » |
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Production definitely. His recordings from years back sound timeless. His current material doesn't. But even more than that it is just the familiarity of the material and how he approaches it. We all know exactly where a solo is going to be (and to some degree what it is going to sound like). This is just the nature of the rock and roll beast for an old 'un. The numbers that make truly earth shattering music in their 70's in miniscule. You won't hear me knockin' the man though. I think he's a genius, and I've had some of my most fun times watching him live. Put it this way, if he plays at the Electric Palace in Bridport I won't go outside and feel wistful like I did with Fairport...I'll pay my money. Not sure I'd pay the going rate for the larger venues he tends to frequent these days, mind.
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« Reply #1470 on: July 24, 2018, 07:20:16 PM » |
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I've been trying to stifle this question for several days but it demands to come out. What would you need to hear on a new RT album to make you react to it the same way you reacted to Rumour and Sigh? Sampling? Loops? Dubbing? Rap? Don't be silly, Bob. Nobody would be wanting Richard to go hip-hop. It's always down to the quality of the songs, the melodies, the words, and of course the guitar playing and other accompaniment. Jules Also the production and to a large extent, unfamiliarity. Even though RT was nearly 20 years into his post Fairport career at that point, his "solo" style was still developing when Rumor & Sigh came out and to a large degree that album set the template for much of the rest of his career. I think he has been remarkably consistent in subsequent decades but has perhaps lost the capacity to surprise. Personally I would take Amnesia, Hand of Kindness and perhaps Mirror Blue over Rumor & Sigh from that era and sort of agree that Mock Tudor was the last truly great album (and my personal favourite) though The Old Kit Bag comes close. All of the others are a mix of the great with the merely very good (though I might make exceptions for Front Parlour Ballads which I have never warmed to and the acoustic demos disc 2 of Dream Attic which outstrips the electric disc by a distance imho). I feel like in some ways, the slight uptick in success and name recognition after Rumor & Sigh (and maybe I'm just talking about the US here) left Richard a little baffled about what direction he wanted to take career wise afterwords. Of course there would always be the guitar, but Vincent left him in a bit of a quandary I think. Beeswing is great of course, but Mirror Blue felt like a carbon copy of Rumor & Sigh otherwise, including what felt like a record label demand he write another song similar to Vincent (Shane & Dixie). Then we had You? Me? Us which confused the ground further. Are you an acoustic songsmith or an electric one? With the exception of Mock Tudor the rest follows this formula I believe. And that's not a knock. A mediocre RT album is still better than a lot of other stuff, but I've never been entirely convinced of at least a good third of his material since Rumor & Sigh. Meaning they don't get into my heart the way every song did on Amnesia. The way every song did on Daring Adventures. I just looked at my Ipod now at The Old Kit Bag and in my head right now I couldn't even remember one bit of how First Breath or Got No Right starts off. If I played them it would come back of course, but its the music in the head...called to mind at a fleeting thought that is what sticks with you. And I guess that is what I mean. Not as many grab me as they used to. Gethsemene makes Old Kit Bag indispensable for me, along with A Love You Can Survive. |
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« Reply #1471 on: July 29, 2018, 01:25:24 AM » |
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Turning of the Tide is a nasty little sneer of a song.
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« Reply #1472 on: July 30, 2018, 11:32:31 AM » |
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Richard has gone on record to say that Mock Tudor is his favourite of his own albums.
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« Reply #1473 on: July 30, 2018, 11:46:35 AM » |
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« Reply #1474 on: July 30, 2018, 09:16:19 PM » |
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Been watching some old Fairport clips today. Starting with The Man They Couldn't Hang, then the 1981 Granada thing with Richard and Linda, and now the 1982 Cropredy film, which I really most enjoyable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwcjfZbCz-0Jules |
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« Reply #1476 on: August 03, 2018, 02:21:29 PM » |
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Audio-only (and **** audio at that) of Come All Ye at the debut of Liege & Lief at the Royal festival Hall in September 1969. History in the making. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX71CAPQwak |
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« Reply #1477 on: August 23, 2018, 09:37:55 AM » |
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This has very likely been posted before but it needs posting again! Maart in action with "Metal Matty" Cropredy 1995 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b9zbVGbN3U Back in the old days when they appended Matty with The Rutland Reel and Sack the Juggler.  |
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