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As Sandra pointed out Colin funds these awards, for which we are very grateful, and I'm sure his funds aren't limitless.
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« Reply #61 on: January 07, 2007, 04:30:29 PM » |
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For the most part the Hancocks follow the same categories as the BBC R2 awards. Last year we recognised that there were many people who made contributions to the folk scene who could not be considered in any of the other categories. That's why we introduced All Round Good Egg Folkie as our own category, to be the Hancocks equivalent of the various 'lifetime achievement' and other recognition awards.
The Hancocks differ from other awards in that the general public are able to nominate for then vote for every single award being offered. We do not give awards out to anyone without putting them to the vote.
Maybe Joe Boyd does deserve an award. But it's not going to happen just because one person said so. It's for the membership of the board as a whole to decide, and during the Hancock awards the chance to make that decision is available via the Good Egg award. I did suggest that at the time the nominations were open but the offer was turned down.
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« Reply #62 on: January 08, 2007, 05:57:24 PM » |
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Please remind me: when does the voting close? Never mind - I found it: 4 Feb |
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« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2007, 04:32:01 PM » |
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« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2007, 10:29:19 PM » |
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Blimey, AnnieD, it's not that hard I'm afraid I'm with AnnieD...I'm struggling a little... it's not so much the songs, its more the sound...there's a 'bombast' in the playing that just doesn't appeal to me... I'll keep trying, mind...  |
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« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2007, 02:51:46 PM » |
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« Reply #69 on: January 13, 2007, 05:42:24 PM » |
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« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2007, 08:24:26 PM » |
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Maybe Joe Boyd does deserve an award. But it's not going to happen just because one person said so. It's for the membership of the board as a whole to decide, and during the Hancock awards the chance to make that decision is available via the Good Egg award. I did suggest that at the time the nominations were open but the offer was turned down.
A. It wasn't "one person", it was several. B. All I said was I didn't think "All Round Good Egg Folkie" was really appropriate for the greatest folk-rock producer of all time. "I changed the course of British folk and rock music, and they've given me an egg. Thanks."I'll get my coat now! |
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« Reply #71 on: January 13, 2007, 10:01:55 PM » |
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Maybe Joe Boyd does deserve an award. But it's not going to happen just because one person said so. It's for the membership of the board as a whole to decide, and during the Hancock awards the chance to make that decision is available via the Good Egg award. I did suggest that at the time the nominations were open but the offer was turned down.
A. It wasn't "one person", it was several. B. All I said was I didn't think "All Round Good Egg Folkie" was really appropriate for the greatest folk-rock producer of all time. "I changed the course of British folk and rock music, and they've given me an egg. Thanks."I'll get my coat now! Steady, Pet. We haven't had "of all time" yet. We've only had up to now. And. "If if it hadn't've been Joe Boyd it'd've been someone else". (discuss) |
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« Reply #72 on: January 13, 2007, 10:16:49 PM » |
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« Reply #73 on: January 13, 2007, 10:27:54 PM » |
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Steady, Pet. We haven't had "of all time" yet. We've only had up to now.
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« Reply #74 on: January 14, 2007, 12:05:38 PM » |
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When we started the Hancocks we set them up as a Vote. We designed the process so that across the whole board, every single member has the right to choose who gets each award. We chose not to give Hancock awards out to anyone without that vote. After all, which individuals on this board have the right to select the winners of awards without asking everyone else? We felt that presenting awards abitrarily for whatever reason would devalue the awards, whereas votes give the awards some meaning. Votes across the board membership say more about an artist than a decision from a closed committee. Radio 2 decides its winners by committee and we do not want to be like them. This decision has been vindicated by several of the recipients in 2006, for example in this post from John Spiers. There are many people who, it could be argued, should receive 'honorary' Hancock Awards irrespective of a vote. In fact, a little time spent exploring the boards fully (for example, here) should make all members realise there are people who are much closer to the heart of Talkawhile even than Joe Boyd; people who, by the rights of this board, should receive a Hancock Award ahead of Joe. I am certain that if we presented honorary awards to people close to Talkawhile without a vote they would be embarassed by them and would think we were being patronising or sycophantic. However if we presented awards that were won by a clear vote across the whole membership they would be thrilled and flattered. Cheers Nick |
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« Reply #75 on: January 14, 2007, 12:25:24 PM » |
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B. All I said was I didn't think "All Round Good Egg Folkie" was really appropriate for the greatest folk-rock producer of all time.
"I changed the course of British folk and rock music, and they've given me an egg. Thanks."
I'll get my coat now!
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« Reply #76 on: January 14, 2007, 08:34:04 PM » |
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Sorry Dave, for now you'll just have to polish up the Hancock award you won last year It currently sits proudly in our rehearsal room at my house, it doesnt need a polish! |
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« Reply #77 on: January 15, 2007, 06:11:18 AM » |
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In order to give some of a us an opportunity to hear some of the musicians nominated for the Hancocks, I'm including as many of them as I can on the Brolly shows over the next few weeks, subject to permission, as always. Sunday's show featured Judy Dyble, Karine Polwart and David Stevenson. Still to come are Kris Drever, The Eighteenth Day Of May, Shona Kipling & Damien O'Kane and Nick Harper. (And hopefully Steve Tilston, Martha Tilston, Julie Fowlis and Vin Garbutt.) Also some David Hughes (for Anji). Cheers, Jules  |
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« Reply #78 on: January 15, 2007, 11:05:39 AM » |
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What an excellent idea and a blimmin' good service to the Talkawhile Voters.
You are a treasure and a fine fellow and I thank you.
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