|
GubGub (Al)
|
 |
« Reply #140 on: April 18, 2007, 08:46:39 AM » |
|
Finally got mine on Monday but have had no time to listen!  Have Mp3d the lot though and have a couple of long rail journeys to while away tomorrow so hopefully I will get to it then. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Bob Barrows
|
|
« Reply #141 on: April 18, 2007, 03:06:30 PM » |
|
I'm really enjoying the music, much of which I had never heard before (even in studio form - I still don't have WWDOOH or Unhalfbricking). I must admit to a little disappointment in the essay, which could use some editing to improve its chronology and fix some POV problems. For example, on page 35, there is an abrupt shift from 3rd person narrative to an unquoted and unattributed 1st person description of a recording session: ... Sandy and Ian had a mic each for the lead vocals the rest of the group, including Martin and I ... . I doubt the "I" is referring to the essay's author, Kingsley Abbott, is it? Was it a quote from Simon? In addition to the essay, I was anticipating (hoping for) something more like what was supplied with the Beatles BBC set: track by track anorak info for easy reference. Neither of which really detracts from my enjoyment of the set of course. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
GubGub (Al)
|
|
« Reply #142 on: April 18, 2007, 03:30:43 PM » |
|
I'm really enjoying the music, much of which I had never heard before (even in studio form - I still don't have WWDOOH or Unhalfbricking).
C'mon Bob! WWDOOH is essential! $8.11 from Amazon Marketplace.  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Bob Barrows
|
|
« Reply #143 on: April 18, 2007, 03:46:00 PM » |
|
I'm really enjoying the music, much of which I had never heard before (even in studio form - I still don't have WWDOOH or Unhalfbricking).
C'mon Bob! WWDOOH is essential! $8.11 from Amazon Marketplace. The problem is I've got compilations (MOTL, etc) that include many of its tracks. up till now, I haven't been able to justify getting it. I'm wavering.  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
GubGub (Al)
|
|
« Reply #144 on: April 18, 2007, 03:49:06 PM » |
|
Get the originals! Sell the compilations! The exclusive tracks on MOTL have turned up as bonus tracks on the reissues anyway. Go on, you know you want to! Is that any help?  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Bob Barrows
|
|
« Reply #145 on: April 18, 2007, 04:43:46 PM » |
|
Yeah ... a big help!  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
GubGub (Al)
|
|
« Reply #146 on: April 18, 2007, 07:16:19 PM » |
|
Have just managed to listen to the first disc whilst at the gym. Outstanding so far. Some terrific performances and the sound is mostly excellent too, though it does drop out slightly during Bird On A Wire (included in spite of this I imagine because it is such an electrifying version).
Can't wait to get to the rest of this tomorrow!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
PaulT
|
|
« Reply #147 on: April 19, 2007, 01:50:13 PM » |
|
Disc 4, track 15 - Tam Lin
Sounds to me like Peggy singing - I was expecting to hear Swarb - or is it just my ears playing tricks? There's definitely a hint of Brum...
Anyone (Simon?) enlighten us?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Flobbadob!
|
|
|
|
David W
|
|
« Reply #148 on: April 19, 2007, 02:12:37 PM » |
|
Disc 4, track 15 - Tam Lin
Sounds to me like Peggy singing - I was expecting to hear Swarb - or is it just my ears playing tricks? There's definitely a hint of Brum...
and Swarb grew up in ... Brum  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Bob Barrows
|
|
« Reply #149 on: April 19, 2007, 02:13:34 PM » |
|
Disc 4, track 15 - Tam Lin
Sounds to me like Peggy singing - I was expecting to hear Swarb - or is it just my ears playing tricks? There's definitely a hint of Brum...
Anyone (Simon?) enlighten us?
That's what I mean! This information (if available, that is) should have been supplied in the booklet! And who's playing the horns on "Light My Fire"? And the vibes on "Ribbon Bow"? And the piano on "Tramp"? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
jude
|
|
« Reply #150 on: April 19, 2007, 02:20:46 PM » |
|
Ummm Tristan Fry is playing the vibes on Ribbon Bow...
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Bob Barrows
|
|
« Reply #151 on: April 19, 2007, 02:34:28 PM » |
|
Ummm Tristan Fry is playing the vibes on Ribbon Bow...
Thanks. Sorry if I sounded more perturbed than I was. I meant to put some smilies in there but got interrupted. PS. Who is Tristan Fry? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
jude
|
|
« Reply #152 on: April 19, 2007, 03:00:46 PM » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Jules Gray
|
|
« Reply #153 on: April 19, 2007, 03:05:20 PM » |
|
And who's playing the horns on "Light My Fire"? And the vibes on "Ribbon Bow"? And the piano on "Tramp"?
It's either Sandy or DM on the piano for Tramp. I seem to recall reading who it was, but I've now forgotten. Jules |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Now be thankful for good things below
|
|
|
|
Jim
|
|
« Reply #154 on: April 19, 2007, 03:21:32 PM » |
|
Disc 4, track 15 - Tam Lin
Sounds to me like Peggy singing - I was expecting to hear Swarb - or is it just my ears playing tricks? There's definitely a hint of Brum...
Anyone (Simon?) enlighten us?
its definitely Swarb, remember its early days for a Swarb vocal |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
The Dude abides
|
|
|
|
Bob Barrows
|
|
« Reply #155 on: April 19, 2007, 03:38:17 PM » |
|
'Course, if all this info had been in the booklet, we'd have been left with nothing to discuss, right?  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
GubGub (Al)
|
|
« Reply #156 on: April 20, 2007, 08:57:10 AM » |
|
Finally got through it all courtesy of Mp3 and the British rail network yesterday. Discs 1 - 3 are outstanding. The highlight for me is what must be the definitive performance of Journeyman's Grace, prior to RT's departure. Disc 4 - well, it is great to hear those performances, especially Swarb's tentative early vocals on the L&L stuff and the tightness of the band on the Angel Delight material but the quality of the sound is going to prevent regular repeated listens.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Jules Gray
|
|
« Reply #157 on: April 20, 2007, 10:01:02 AM » |
|
The highlight for me is what must be the definitive performance of Journeyman's Grace, prior to RT's departure.
Aaarggh - but it isn't definitive! That's my main beef with the boxed set. There's a version recorded at that BBC session which is the full song. The version on the box (and on Fairport Unconventional, and on the remastered Angel Delight) has the second verse missing. Was it edited for broadcast or was it recorded in two versions maybe because they were considering the song for a single? I have no idea. I have the full version on a b@@t. THAT'S the definitive version. Except that the audio quality is pretty lousy. It's slower than the Angel Delight version, has a better groove, and of course it has RT playing lead guitar (and singing the second verse). When you've heard the full version, the edited version is always frustrating. I can only think that they couldn't find it in decent quality for the BBC box, but I sure wish they'd included it on the fourth 'off-air' disc at least. If I had the technical know-how I'd take the edited version and edit the missing verse back in from the bootleg. Would anyone out there have the know how to do that sort of thing? Sorry. Rant over. On the plus side we do get that wonderful extended version of Now Be Thankful, a terrific Sir William Gower, a great John The Gun, a dynamic Possibly Parsons Green, a beautiful Rosie, and Reynardine and Tam Lin sound much better than they did on Heyday. It's a terrific release. It's just that version of Journeyman's Grace that really bugs me. Jules |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Now be thankful for good things below
|
|
|
Simon Nicol
Samantha was detained elsewhere...
Full Member
 Offline
Posts: 242
Loc: Usually CT4
Wilco ... and Out!
|
|
« Reply #158 on: April 20, 2007, 10:55:14 AM » |
|
And who's playing the horns on "Light My Fire"? And the vibes on "Ribbon Bow"? And the piano on "Tramp"?
Judy has told us about Tristan who was parachuted into the studio to play the intro and outro for Ribbon Bow. He was the drummer/percussionist in Sky, John Williams' fusion group. DM is tinkling the ivories behind RT's spirited vocal on Lady is a Tramp, Iain is his straight man for the opening pun and I'm the guilty party assaulting Dm's kit while the drum stool was momentarily vacant. As for Light My Fire: well, no-one has 100% recall but I think it's snuck into this set as a red herring, a joke, a bit of inspired mischief or a clerical error. It's not Fairport, that's for sure. And on that showbusiness bombshell, I shall mix my metaphors and leave the cat among the pigeons. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
As the Zen Master said, "Don't just do something - sit there!"
|
|
|
|
GubGub (Al)
|
|
« Reply #159 on: April 20, 2007, 11:07:12 AM » |
|
Sorry to have fueled your apoplexy Jules! I've never heard the version of which you speak so to me, what we have here is very much a highlight of the box but I had forgotten about the seriously kick ass version of Time Will Show The Wiser which knocks spots off the studio version, except regretably for the sound quality. As for Light My Fire, I suspected as much Simon but thanks for the confirmation. Instrumentation all wrong and no recognisable vocalist. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
