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« Reply #80 on: January 06, 2007, 11:59:01 AM »




i'd guess the others will be characters in the songs...


Or characters representing the periods of time / country that they sing about.


In which case the boy and girl on the left could well be from Love on a Farmboys wages?



No, the boy and the sheep is Love on a Farmboys Wages - you don't think farmboys can afford women do you  Cheesy


Two re-workings and not enough Chris Lesley compositions - I fear the worst but hope for the best.

And the cover is vomit inducing - sorry, but there you go. At least we know that the quality of the cover has nothing to do with the quality of the album - compare and contrast Rising for the Moon with The Wood and the Wire for instance (but don't mention Tipplers Tales...).
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« Reply #81 on: January 06, 2007, 12:03:51 PM »

We've been having a bit of fun with the cover picture, but it surely wouldn't stop someone from buying the CD would it? I mean you buy CD's for the music not for decoration, don't you?  Undecided
And whatever else you say about it, it got folks talking about the CD, and there's no such thing as bad publicity  Wink   and it's given us a laugh.... what more could you ask for Grin
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« Reply #82 on: January 06, 2007, 12:08:45 PM »


what more could you ask for Grin


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I'm looking forward to hearing Tam Lin, love that song...
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« Reply #83 on: January 06, 2007, 12:26:55 PM »


We've been having a bit of fun with the cover picture, but it surely wouldn't stop someone from buying the CD would it? I mean you buy CD's for the music not for decoration, don't you?  Undecided
And whatever else you say about it, it got folks talking about the CD, and there's no such thing as bad publicity  Wink   and it's given us a laugh.... what more could you ask for Grin


The CD will sell - it will sell to you and me, and those who go to the tour and to Cropredy.  To my mind, what it resolutely WON'T do is reach out to anyone beyond the existing audience.  And that's disappointing.  The comfort zone is just too damn comfortable for my liking, and has been for at least the last quarter of the band's career....
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« Reply #84 on: January 06, 2007, 02:13:38 PM »

As I have no idea what the album will sound like, I retain my high hopes.

However, I think the cover will not appeal to those who are not already "in the fold".

Just IMHO, I'm sure others have and will differ.
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« Reply #85 on: January 06, 2007, 02:19:04 PM »


To my mind, what it resolutely WON'T do is reach out to anyone beyond the existing audience.  And that's disappointing.  The comfort zone is just too damn comfortable for my liking, and has been for at least the last quarter of the band's career....


But isn't this true of the folk genre ?

OK you will have someone like Seth Lakeman get a bit of the media spotlight but is that for his music or his good looks ? There will always be the folky flavours that rise to the surface from time to time such as Jack Johnson, Jose Gonzales but folk isn't mainstream and it is unlkely to ever generate a mass conversion to the delights of fiddles, mandolins and guitars in perfect harmony.

HMV do a very good freebie magazine that features 'specialist' music from jazz to bluegrass and including folk but that really is just advertising - but at least they bother to try to reach the market for the musical styles. Jools Holland will have his eclectic mix on his programmes and this will also feature folky stuff - but it is still on the fringe.... and is it any worse for being there ?

I would suggest that more will be done to reach a wider audience by the support and encouragement of young(er) folk and acoustic artists such as happened at Cropredy last year with the wRants and this year with Kerfuffle. I am sure that the 2007 festival season will see more young bands and artists hitting the boards for the first time and I would not mind betting that they will make sure that they drag their mates along to see them whether or not they know Tam Lin from a Tam O'Shanter and we just know that some will go home converted !

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« Reply #86 on: January 06, 2007, 02:22:49 PM »

Just a thought  but could the native American be a
nod to  Don  who could be seen at Croppers  dressed in the same
And who passed away  last year ??
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« Reply #87 on: January 06, 2007, 02:48:04 PM »



To my mind, what it resolutely WON'T do is reach out to anyone beyond the existing audience.  And that's disappointing.  The comfort zone is just too damn comfortable for my liking, and has been for at least the last quarter of the band's career....


But isn't this true of the folk genre ?



Maybe.  But what genre do Fairport represent these days?  They started off as a Rock band...invented English Folk-Rock, and pretty much stuck there (with diversions) until Maart left, (which is NOT to say they sounded the same from '69-'97 or whenever, they obviously didn't but you could look at them and say, 'this is a folk-rock' group).  They've since almost completely lost the Rock edge, but aren't Folk enough to be regarded as a Folk band.  Which leaves them in this (to my mind) rather dire space which exists in the, for want of a better phrase, the Middle of the Road....  If I didn't have an enormous affinity for the band, I'd shrug my shoulders and move on, but I do, and I care...and it saddens me.
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« Reply #88 on: January 06, 2007, 03:31:26 PM »


Just a thought  but could the native American be a
nod to  Don  who could be seen at Croppers  dressed in the same
And who passed away  last year ??



Could well be Taylor.. though I think Don the Indian died a few years ago.. but I could be mistaken!
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« Reply #89 on: January 06, 2007, 04:06:07 PM »

another month till its released and the backlash is already in full swing
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« Reply #90 on: January 06, 2007, 04:12:11 PM »

The new year's not changed anything then Wink

Nice to know we can say what we feel - within reason - here Wink
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« Reply #91 on: January 06, 2007, 04:34:40 PM »



Someone please tell me I just imagined that....... Tongue


Now, don't judge a book by its cover  Wink (I hope)

Agreed.I must say I´m not impressed with the cover, hrrrmmm, but it is the music that counts. If as is said elsewhere, the cover could attract the browsing record-buyer, then I´m positive. But I have my doubts...
But I´ll keep my mouth shut fingers off  until I´ve heard the music. I do look forward to the record!
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« Reply #92 on: January 06, 2007, 04:37:45 PM »


They've since almost completely lost the Rock edge, but aren't Folk enough to be regarded as a Folk band.  Which leaves them in this (to my mind) rather dire space which exists in the, for want of a better phrase, the Middle of the Road....  If I didn't have an enormous affinity for the band, I'd shrug my shoulders and move on, but I do, and I care...and it saddens me.


Mmmm... can't find a suitable category to pigeon hole the band, feel that M-O-R is the only option, clearly feel uneasy with this sttae of affairs having a great affinity for the band and consequently feel saddened.

If you think that band is good, why the need to put them into a cosy categorisation ? ; sure, this makes it easier to describe the band and it's material to the unknowing or curious but, at the end of the day, is that important ?

Might the band's longevity be partly due to it's (no doubt benign) defiance to be anything other than Fairport - and if that leaves PFY in Virgin and HMV a bit unclear wherre to display the Fairport CD's then at least there is no harm done.

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« Reply #93 on: January 06, 2007, 05:00:58 PM »

So true Nuts, and it would destroy half the fun if we didn't have to take a treasure map when going to buy a Fairport CD from a shop  Grin

Anyhoo, What is Middle Of The Road  Huh In my head it equates with stuff like The Archies, and that doesn't add up where FC are concerned.

I shall be more than happy to get my greedy paws on a copy of the new CD, and, I bet I like it!!!
Artwork and all  Grin Grin
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« Reply #94 on: January 06, 2007, 06:20:57 PM »

I like the cover art!

The favoured few hew have heard the white label version seem to like it. I look forward to buying and hearing mine.
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« Reply #95 on: January 06, 2007, 06:30:51 PM »




Anyhoo, What is Middle Of The Road  Huh In my head it equates with stuff like The Archies, and that doesn't add up where FC are concerned.




I'm glad to agree with you!  If the new album sounds like the Archies, we're all in trouble  Grin
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« Reply #96 on: January 06, 2007, 06:34:26 PM »

My problem with the cover is that to me, it reeks of "Okay, now we really ARE over the next hill, and are sitting comfortably waiting for carpet slippers to be fetched and someone to come along with a nice mug of Ovaltine. Oh! And don't forget the zimmer frames!"

Okay, we know that's not really how it is, but for me, that is  how this cover projects the band.

Bit of a lost opportunity, marketing wise. Sad
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« Reply #97 on: January 06, 2007, 06:35:51 PM »

I reckon they did it to give us all a laugh  Wink Wink Grin Grin
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« Reply #98 on: January 06, 2007, 06:40:29 PM »

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Well I like the cover - I think they all look rather dapper and having a very jolly time!

Hope the music is up to the standard of the last album.
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« Reply #99 on: January 06, 2007, 07:25:24 PM »

Well because I am a sad and lonely type of guy I can tell you that the banner on the cover is  the arms of John Hawkwood. Thereby referencing the song "Hawkwood's army"

Sounds like he was an interesting chap
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