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« Reply #200 on: January 17, 2007, 11:16:42 PM »

Oh shame it's in London!!
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« Reply #201 on: January 18, 2007, 03:54:48 AM »

Well, you could leave of the first train / coach, get there early and be near the front of the queue, spend the rest of the day on RT, have an enjoyable evening, stay overnight, more RT, ....
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« Reply #202 on: January 18, 2007, 05:48:46 AM »


Well, you could leave of the first train / coach, get there early and be near the front of the queue, spend the rest of the day on RT, have an enjoyable evening, stay overnight, more RT, ....


My bank details are being IM'ed over as we speak Adrian...it's bloody kind of you  Wink
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« Reply #203 on: January 18, 2007, 07:20:45 AM »


My bank details are being IM'ed over as we speak Adrian...it's bloody kind of you  Wink


Gulp! I didn't mean I'd pay! I've quite enough expenses of my own.

That being said, if I could take the time off, I'd be following a similar plan.
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« Reply #204 on: January 18, 2007, 08:19:24 AM »

I was a bit concerned for a moment there, the Fopp in central London is tiny - but this appears to be a new store.
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« Reply #205 on: January 18, 2007, 09:15:23 AM »

Have you noticed that on the FOPP link http://www.fopp.co.uk/news_instore.php/ievent/122
the band only 'virtually invented' Folk-Rock  Cheesy  

Having posted this elsewhere, someone was wondering who actually did then...any ideas?!!
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« Reply #206 on: January 18, 2007, 01:26:31 PM »

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Gotta suss this out!

Get to the store at opening time, get wristband.  Go to work, apologise for lateness - puncture?  Go to gig in evening.

Plan!  Except they won't make the wristbands available until lunchtime or something knowing my luck.
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« Reply #207 on: January 18, 2007, 01:30:45 PM »


Have you noticed that on the FOPP link http://www.fopp.co.uk/news_instore.php/ievent/122
the band only 'virtually invented' Folk-Rock  Cheesy  

Having posted this elsewhere, someone was wondering who actually did then...any ideas?!!


I know plenty of Americans who say its The Byrds, ignoring the different definition of 'folk'

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« Reply #208 on: January 18, 2007, 01:50:35 PM »



Have you noticed that on the FOPP link http://www.fopp.co.uk/news_instore.php/ievent/122
the band only 'virtually invented' Folk-Rock  Cheesy  

Having posted this elsewhere, someone was wondering who actually did then...any ideas?!!


I know plenty of Americans who say its The Byrds, ignoring the different definition of 'folk'




Actually the quote says 'English folk-rock'..  Wink
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« Reply #209 on: January 18, 2007, 01:51:36 PM »



Have you noticed that on the FOPP link http://www.fopp.co.uk/news_instore.php/ievent/122
the band only 'virtually invented' Folk-Rock  Cheesy  

Having posted this elsewhere, someone was wondering who actually did then...any ideas?!!
I know plenty of Americans who say its The Byrds, ignoring the different definition of 'folk'
Explain please? If you're saying that 'folk' = 'trad', then OK, that leaves out the Dylan songs they did.
However, The Byrds did a rock version of
- Bells of Rhymney on their first album (1965)
-Oh! Susannah on their Turn,Turn,Turn album (1966)
-Wild Mountain Thyme on their Fifth Dimension album (1966)

If these don't fall under your definition of 'folk' then I would think that definition is pretty narrow. (if this sounds combative, I apologize - it is not meant to be. I'm just asking for clarification)
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« Reply #210 on: January 18, 2007, 05:25:17 PM »




Have you noticed that on the FOPP link http://www.fopp.co.uk/news_instore.php/ievent/122
the band only 'virtually invented' Folk-Rock  Cheesy  

Having posted this elsewhere, someone was wondering who actually did then...any ideas?!!
I know plenty of Americans who say its The Byrds, ignoring the different definition of 'folk'
Explain please? If you're saying that 'folk' = 'trad', then OK, that leaves out the Dylan songs they did.
However, The Byrds did a rock version of
- Bells of Rhymney on their first album (1965)
-Oh! Susannah on their Turn,Turn,Turn album (1966)
-Wild Mountain Thyme on their Fifth Dimension album (1966)

If these don't fall under your definition of 'folk' then I would think that definition is pretty narrow. (if this sounds combative, I apologize - it is not meant to be. I'm just asking for clarification)


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I guess the destinction is that the Byrds are rooted in Tranditional American Music, and Fairport are rooted in Traditional British Music.
Although of course American Folk mainly originates from the UK, by the time it has reached the Byrds its a different thing to what Fairport do from 'A Sailors Life' onwards.

So a discussion as to wether the Byrds or Fairport invented Folk Rock is redundant, in that they both developed different things. I think.

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« Reply #211 on: January 18, 2007, 06:46:27 PM »




Have you noticed that on the FOPP link http://www.fopp.co.uk/news_instore.php/ievent/122
the band only 'virtually invented' Folk-Rock  Cheesy  

Having posted this elsewhere, someone was wondering who actually did then...any ideas?!!
I know plenty of Americans who say its The Byrds, ignoring the different definition of 'folk'
Actually the quote says 'English folk-rock'..  Wink
Ah, that's a different kettle of fish ...  Cheesy
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« Reply #212 on: January 18, 2007, 11:26:07 PM »

HANG ON JUST A MINUTE!

Forget all this "who invented folk-rock" malarkey for a minute!  It got invented, now be thankful...

Isn't 12th Feb in the middle of the tour?  It's a long way from TCR to Lincoln!  Hope the sat-nav's on form.

See you there, Chaps.  Smiley
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« Reply #213 on: January 19, 2007, 09:14:57 AM »

I'll be at the Lincoln gig.. see you there Anna!!
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« Reply #214 on: January 19, 2007, 09:20:50 AM »

Oops, slight reworking of the previous post required methinks...

... Hope their sat-nav's on form.  See you at TCR chaps...

Sorry Jen, Lincoln's just a bit out of my reach, even for an FC gig.
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« Reply #215 on: January 19, 2007, 09:22:06 AM »

Ha.. I DID wonder!!
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« Reply #216 on: January 19, 2007, 10:24:02 AM »




Have you noticed that on the FOPP link http://www.fopp.co.uk/news_instore.php/ievent/122
the band only 'virtually invented' Folk-Rock  Cheesy  

Having posted this elsewhere, someone was wondering who actually did then...any ideas?!!
I know plenty of Americans who say its The Byrds, ignoring the different definition of 'folk'
Explain please? If you're saying that 'folk' = 'trad', then OK, that leaves out the Dylan songs they did.
However, The Byrds did a rock version of
- Bells of Rhymney on their first album (1965)
-Oh! Susannah on their Turn,Turn,Turn album (1966)
-Wild Mountain Thyme on their Fifth Dimension album (1966)

If these don't fall under your definition of 'folk' then I would think that definition is pretty narrow. (if this sounds combative, I apologize - it is not meant to be. I'm just asking for clarification)


Early British examples of folk rock are:-

Tony Sheridan and the Beat Brothers (beatles) - My Bonnie  (1961)
Searchers - where have all the flowers gone?  (1963)
Animals - House of the rising sun  (1964)

All many years before Fairport.

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« Reply #217 on: January 19, 2007, 10:28:15 AM »

Yes, but as a mere cover of Pete Seeger's "Where Have all The Flowers Gone?" I would say that the Searchers record doesn't count.
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« Reply #218 on: January 19, 2007, 10:32:26 AM »

"House Of The Rising Sun" and "My Bonnie Lies Over The Ocean" aren't original either.

Wait - nor is Matty Groves
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« Reply #219 on: January 19, 2007, 11:34:57 AM »


"House Of The Rising Sun" and "My Bonnie Lies Over The Ocean" aren't original either.

Wait - nor is Matty Groves


very true

both are traditional songs

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