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Amethyst (Jenny)
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« on: January 25, 2007, 09:08:45 AM »

Information from the FC list...

A petition been raised to have Ashley Hutchings made a Knight..

"We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to recommend the Queen to
award a knighthood (or whatever alternative honour she may deem appropriate)
to Ashley Hutchings for his outstanding contribution to the preservation
of and education about English folk music and dance, itstraditions and heritage."

Sign up at http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/AshleyHutchings/
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2007, 09:14:28 AM »

Oh, I can´t sign in, because I am not a British citizen  Cry Embarrassed
But I spend a lot of time in England. Do you think that will count?
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2007, 09:16:24 AM »

No.

Only local people can vote for knighthoods.
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2007, 09:25:00 AM »

You could still write to No 10 though Ulla and add your opinion.
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2007, 09:25:16 AM »

I see Patrick Spens has signed Grin Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2007, 09:34:25 AM »

so have I
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2007, 09:44:46 AM »


I see Patrick Spens has signed Grin Roll Eyes


And Bill Gower   Wink
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2007, 10:40:39 AM »

Mine added
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2007, 11:11:51 AM »

I have done my bit  - I think he deserves it just for Morris On let alone all the other stuff.
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2007, 11:32:15 AM »

Ditto - signature added
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2007, 11:45:12 AM »

The knighthood is 3 times higher than the humble MBE.

So what has Ashley done that entitles him to an honour 3 times 'highr' than Martin Carthy MBE? Eh?

Because that is what the honours Committee will want to know....assuming someone with some clout in this field has sponsored said nomination.
As it stands, it has zilch chance, and may even count against him, if someone with clout subsequently puts in a sensible MBE nomination in the near future.

No, Ashley would be embarrassed by a knighthood nomination - get Martin to sponsor an MBE nomination & likely as not, he'll get it. This'll just get laughed out of No. 10.
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2007, 11:54:07 AM »


The knighthood is 3 times higher than the humble MBE.

So what has Ashley done that entitles him to an honour 3 times 'highr' than Martin Carthy MBE? Eh?

Because that is what the honours Committee will want to know....assuming someone with some clout in this field has sponsored said nomination.
As it stands, it has zilch chance, and may even count against him, if someone with clout subsequently puts in a sensible MBE nomination in the near future.

No, Ashley would be embarrassed by a knighthood nomination - get Martin to sponsor an MBE nomination & likely as not, he'll get it. This'll just get laughed out of No. 10.


No it won't...it will be ignored.  Just like all the other 'online petitions'...  At least if someone turns up at your door with a few boxes of names someone has to let you in..this way they don't even have to do that!

I'd agree that Martin should be knighted and Norma given a Damehood first...but in a country where a few years in the Foreign Office earns you an OBE then I'm sure they ought to be able to find something for Ashley.  And the rest of the band.  Lord Swarbrick anybody?   Wink
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2007, 11:55:32 AM »

Loads of debate on this subject on The List..  

We can vote if we wish to and believe AH deserves some recognition..

Or not vote if we don't...

S'up to each of us..

(And YES for SWARB too!!)
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2007, 11:57:21 AM »

Isn't the level covered by the weasel words "or whatever alternative honour she may deem appropriate"? I assume that this is some sort of official suggested wording.

Anywhoo, I've signed, too.

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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2007, 12:03:55 PM »


Isn't the level covered by the weasel words "or whatever alternative honour she may deem appropriate"?


Oh, indeed it is. But as davidmjs agrees, it will just be completely ignored. THe only way for someone (any British Citizen) to be honoured is for them to be nominated via the form on the Cabinet website. We went through this when some McTellites thought Ralph was due one. This petition won't even get seen by the honours scrutiny committee and is therefore fairly useless.

It needs someone ackowledged within the folk world to be a primary sponsor of a nomination for him, and willing to take time out to support it in interview with said Committee. We can then all sign as secondary sponsors......and I reckon he'd get it.

But this? Nah, sorry - it'll just embarrass Ashley.
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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2007, 12:17:01 PM »


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But this? Nah, sorry - it'll just embarrass Ashley.


I think Ashley himself should be the judge of that.
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2007, 12:21:29 PM »

Why?.....opinions are valid here. Every one.
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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2007, 12:37:47 PM »

I'd accept a knighthood and I wouldn't be embarrassed at all.

In fact, I think I'll start a petition...
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2007, 12:38:22 PM »

Mind you, they give ac-tors knighthoods for a lifetime of 'let's pretend' Wink

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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2007, 12:47:10 PM »

It's all pretend, Adam. Life is just a game.
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