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« on: April 19, 2007, 10:24:11 AM »

I think I can usually tell who is singing what with the Fairports, but on some of the 70s stuff it occured to me that I may be mistaking Simon's vocals for Peggy's and vice versa.  So just to clear things up...

Is it Simon who sings verse 2 of Journeyman's Grace on Angel Delight?

Is it Peggy who sings with Swarb on Sailors Alphabet, Dream Song and Hanging Song from 'Babbacombe' Lee?

And who sings lead on The Eynsham Poacher on Bonny Bunch Of Roses?  Simon, or Peggy?  I was thinking it was Simon, but the track was arranged by Peggy, so maybe I'm wrong here.

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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2007, 11:44:17 AM »

verse 2 of journeyman = Simon
sailors alphabet = Peggy
dream song = Peggy
hanging song = Peggy
eynsham poacher = Simon

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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2007, 11:56:13 AM »

Great!  Thanks very much.  That was what I thought, but I was having doubts.

Simon and Peggy both have that nasal quality going on.  But you'd think I could tell a Brummie from a Londoner!

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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2007, 04:42:13 PM »

I have a 1971 live version of Sloth (off the Airing Cupboard Tapes and Across the Decades). Who sings the high bits?
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2007, 10:01:53 PM »

its got to be Simon because you can clearly hear Peggy doing the lower register stuff

if you listen to the stuff from pre 85 esp some of the boots, Simon sounds almost on helium compared to todays venerable basso profundo
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2007, 09:56:24 PM »

I'm always struck by that t0o - it sounds like he changed his technique- singing much more from his chest and opening up his airways, but I suppose it could be just his voice maturing. perhaps we should ask him.

I read a history of the band somewhere (I'm sure someone will fill me in) saying something like his voice sounding like it had been matured in an oak cask when the band came back in 85 - thought it quite a nice description.
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2007, 10:00:11 PM »

I think on the new version of Polly on the Shore, simon really sounds like trevor
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2007, 11:05:28 PM »


I think on the new version of Polly on the Shore, simon really sounds like trevor



Oh nooooo he doesn't, he sounds like Simon with a rich velvet, liquid chocolate voice  Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2007, 11:42:38 PM »

D'ya know this has been bothering me for some time, especially since I've discovered Babbacombe Lee (easily my fave FC offering at the mo, but I suspect this will change in the future!) Expletive Delighted website states Simon was in the band when it was released, but I can't work out his vocals at all, and the YouTube video shows another guy altogether (as well as Peggy with lots of hair).

I'd like to see Peggy do more vocals, and by this I mean lead, not backing. Does anyone know why he doesn't do any these days?
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2007, 11:57:52 PM »

If thats the Hanging Song video, I think its Roger Hill.
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2007, 09:26:20 AM »

im not convinced that they wernt miming on that video
yes i iknow it was togwt, but i suspect  a quick fix
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2007, 11:14:53 AM »


im not convinced that they wernt miming on that video
yes i iknow it was togwt, but i suspect  a quick fix


They were miming. In the booklet for the A Lasting Spirit Collection, there is a picture of a newspaper article from 1972, talking about Roger Hill and his first public performance with the band, miming some of JBL on the Old Grey Whistle Test
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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2007, 08:09:01 PM »


D'ya know this has been bothering me for some time, especially since I've discovered Babbacombe Lee (easily my fave FC offering at the mo, but I suspect this will change in the future!) Expletive Delighted website states Simon was in the band when it was released, but I can't work out his vocals at all, and the YouTube video shows another guy altogether (as well as Peggy with lots of hair).


It's his replacement Roger Hill on the YouTube clip.  Simon sings Breakfast In Mayfair on the album.  And also the I Was 16/John My Son section...I think.

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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2007, 05:14:44 PM »

Thanks for the info, I may just have to listen to it again now!  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2007, 03:51:52 PM »



im not convinced that they wernt miming on that video
yes i iknow it was togwt, but i suspect  a quick fix


They were miming. In the booklet for the A Lasting Spirit Collection, there is a picture of a newspaper article from 1972, talking about Roger Hill and his first public performance with the band, miming some of JBL on the Old Grey Whistle Test


And if you are still in any doubt - check DM's tee shirt on the Whistle Test clip during the close-up of him.
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2007, 07:37:51 PM »

Well I've watched in and watched it (Oh, I'm a martyr to my cause!) and I know all the evidence points to them miming, but I'm not totally convinced. They did a blinkin' good job at it!

Anyway it doesn't matter. It's a great bit of vintage footage, if only for Peggy's beard  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2007, 08:12:34 PM »

 Roger hill clearly has an acoustic to start with, but about 1 nano second after he has finished, the electric comes in. by heck he can change a guitar quickly  Wink
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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2007, 08:40:14 PM »

Yes, and there's instruments you never see (like a mando) cymbals being bashed when DM is nowhere near them. I concede. It's fun to watch tho!
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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2007, 08:53:45 PM »

How are you watching it? I just tried the link and got a message that it's been removed due to copyright violation.
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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2007, 08:55:23 PM »

Search Fairport Convention in YouTube and it'll be there somewhere, near the bottom of page 1
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