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« on: June 17, 2007, 06:35:38 PM » |
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Any ideas what this is going to be? It's due out in early August according to HMV.
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2007, 07:28:19 PM » |
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all the stuff ive got 4 times already on 2 lps and 2 cds not to mention the compilations for a start
lets just hope the extra tracks make it all worthwhile
maybe its a re-recording of the whole lp with all the surviving original members and Chris While?
or maybe guest vocalists
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2007, 07:59:58 PM » |
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maybe simon could enlighten us...
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2007, 08:03:03 PM » |
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Maybe a few guest covers?, Chelsea's Didier Drogba doing Come All Ye, Ann Widdecombe whistling Reynardine and Olympic Shotputter Geoff Capes making a return to public life with a stirring hammered dulcimer version of Crazy Man Michael - it would work you know.
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Jules Gray
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2007, 09:44:49 AM » |
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I hope it's not just the album, the outtakes and the BBC sessions, with a couple of alternate rough mixes thrown in to tempt the completists. I hope there's something more to it.
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2007, 12:25:28 PM » |
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Any ideas what this is going to be? It's due out in early August according to HMV.
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2007, 03:36:53 PM » |
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maybe simon could enlighten us...
Absolutely the first I've heard about it. There is no newly-discovered archive stuff, and we certainly haven't had a get-together to re-record it as older versions of our original selves. Well I haven't anyway. |
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2007, 03:38:44 PM » |
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Sigh. Well make sure you get paid for it.
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2007, 03:38:57 PM » |
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Absolutely the first I've heard about it. There is no newly-discovered archive stuff, and we certainly haven't had a get-together to re-record it as older versions of our original selves. Well I haven't anyway. So are they actually allowed to get away with this? The material is yours, if not 100% legally then morally.  If it is not sanctioned by Fairport or Fairport have no input to it then I won't be bothering to buy it.  |
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2007, 03:43:25 PM » |
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So are they actually allowed to get away with this?
Most recordings are owned by record labels rather than bands. Unless you're lucky enough to have a carefully worded clause or two in your contract, then they can pretty much do as they see fit I think. Jules |
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2007, 03:49:47 PM » |
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I think the point I was trying to make (not very well) is that I find it incredible that they can just release the bands work willy nilly and with out so much as a by your leave. But then again, I know nothing of the workings of the industry.
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2007, 03:59:44 PM » |
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I think the point I was trying to make (not very well) is that I find it incredible that they can just release the bands work willy nilly and with out so much as a by your leave. But then again, I know nothing of the workings of the industry.
You made your point just fine, Dave. I sort of agree with you, but that's the business world for ya. Look at all the book reprints you see - there's no way they are going to seek the approval of all the authors..... The artists and writers get royalties and publishing money. The labels get to handle the 'product' as they see fit. Jules |
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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2007, 04:01:06 PM » |
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Seems rather strange seeing as how a re-mastered L&L with bonus tracks came out just a few years ago. It is a bit irritating that record companies bring out these re-issues when there are albums which are out-of-print which could be re-released. A good example is RT's (guitar,vocal) which was a superb compilation of FC, R+LT and solo. Most of the tracks from that album have since re-surfaced on re-issues of Fairport or R+LT cds and there is always the option of just downloading those tracks from iTunes or wherever, but I'd love to be able to buy a copy of the original album. I fear that the instrumentals like Flee As A Bird are lost forever. The reason I mention that album is that I had it on tape and the tape got knackered.  But the Deluxe Edition of L&L has the sound of bandwagons being jumped upon by the record company in light of the Cropredy reunion. |
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2007, 04:29:33 PM » |
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Seems rather strange seeing as how a re-mastered L&L with bonus tracks came out just a few years ago.
It is a bit irritating that record companies bring out these re-issues when there are albums which are out-of-print which could be re-released.
Not forgeting Bright Pheobus, but that's another story... |
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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2007, 04:51:19 PM » |
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Just read this on amazon in the review section for the Unhalfbricking re-issue...
"I already owned the previous CD version so it was with some reservations that I bought this one (only, in the end, because I needed to hear Sandy Denny's take on 'The Ballad of Easy Rider')..."
The record companies must love people like him!
Easy Rider is actually one of my favourite Sandy Denny tracks (and it was on guitar,vocal) but it's also on the compilation No More Sad Refrains.
Does anyone know if it's ever been played at Cropredy?
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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2007, 10:47:18 PM » |
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I have a feeling that it may be just outakes from the sessions, as I am now listening to a different version of Reynardine now from Ashley's Five album
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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2007, 03:16:46 AM » |
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I believe the bonus tracks this time are the audio from an appearance on Danish TV in 1969 (from memory, the performance Sandy nearly didn't join them for and left soon after).
The songs I know they did on that show were The Deserter, Reynardine, Lark In The Morning, Matty Groves (with no extended outro) and Crazy Man Michael. So not new songs as such but different "live" contemporary versions thereof. And audio only.
I don't know what any other bonus tracks might be, though you'd hope they'd keep the Sandy "Sir Pat" and Quiet Joys from the previous reissue...
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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2007, 09:33:50 AM » |
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It is a bit irritating that record companies bring out these re-issues when there are albums which are out-of-print which could be re-released. A good example is RT's (guitar,vocal) which was a superb compilation of FC, R+LT and solo. Most of the tracks from that album have since re-surfaced on re-issues of Fairport or R+LT cds and there is always the option of just downloading those tracks from iTunes or wherever, but I'd love to be able to buy a copy of the original album. I fear that the instrumentals like Flee As A Bird are lost forever.
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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2007, 09:35:09 AM » |
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I have a feeling that it may be just outakes from the sessions, as I am now listening to a different version of Reynardine now from Ashley's Five album
That's just a different mix of the BBC version, Ollie - same as on the BBC box set. Jules |
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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2007, 09:37:04 AM » |
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I don't know what any other bonus tracks might be, though you'd hope they'd keep the Sandy "Sir Pat" and Quiet Joys from the previous reissue...
The version of Quiet Joys from the Who Knows Where The Time Goes? (I believe it's take 4) is so much better than those alternate takes. And now of course it's out of print, so maybe that will turn up. Jules |
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