No More Sad Refrains to be republished

[Bob Barrows]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/026-9562813-9074805?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=No+More+Sad+Refrains&Go.x=3&Go.y=11
Don't tell 'em I sent you!

Nah - too much to spend for a book of suspect veracity.

[jude]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/026-9562813-9074805?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=No+More+Sad+Refrains&Go.x=3&Go.y=11
Don't tell 'em I sent you!

Nah - too much to spend for a book of suspect veracity.

Crikey! I hope I don't get hit with a libel suit.... I'll deny everything........

[Bob Barrows]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/026-9562813-9074805?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=No+More+Sad+Refrains&Go.x=3&Go.y=11
Don't tell 'em I sent you!

Nah - too much to spend for a book of suspect veracity.

Crikey! I hope I don't get hit with a libel suit.... I'll deny everything........

IANAL, but truth is always a defense to a libel suit.

[Cocker Freeman]

hey jude when are you going to do your story- an autobiography from you would make a fascinating read

Seconded!

I've got bits of paper all over the place with beginnings.

The trouble is I get sidetracked and end up in dead ends (bit like my driving really)

I will probably one day. Possibly. When I get my memory back

I'll help you Jude! Something must have! Knock it out for August. "Clinton Heylin Wasn't Even There, He's An Arse!" by Judy Dyble and Cocker Freeman!

Snappy or what!

[Jules Gray]

 I'll help you Jude! Something must have! Knock it out for August. "Clinton Heylin Wasn't Even There, He's An Arse!" by Judy Dyble and Cocker Freeman!

Snappy or what!

Very snappy.  Hmmm...I wonder what the book cover would look like....?  

Jules

[Andy]

To be published simultaneously....

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[jude]

Dear me.........

Snappy title all right...just rolls off the tongue!!

[Jim]

does Clint still live in Sale?
if he does ill pop round and put a brick through his windows

[david stevenson]

hey jude   when are you going to do your story- an autobiography from you would make a fascinating read

And an original title too!  

[markwood]

It's worth listening to Martin Carthy's comments about the book in the extras section of the Sandy documentary DVD. He doesn't spare the expletives when he talks about the author's comments about Trevor Lucas!

[Jack O Diamonds]

Dreadful book - dreadfully written and horribly twisted throughout. Heylin wrote a book about Van Morrison which was pretty repugnant as well. I mean Van ain't a saint but..... AVOID THIS NASTY BOOK LIKE THE PLAGUE!

[Philip W]

Oh, Heylin... don't get me started...

Republication would have a point if he takes the opportunity to correct the numerous typos and malapropisms in his first edition, which seems to have gone straight from author's disk to print without editorial intervention. Whether he'll revise his opinions is another matter, as he's much in love with them. And since he doesn't answer readers' letters (not this reader's anyway) there's no scope for entering into debate with him.

I have reason to resent his monopoly position, having long wanted to do a book of my own on Sandy - more the music than the life, though of course you can't separate the two. But whenever I approach publishers or agents I get the same message: for a 'marginal' figure like Sandy the market can only support one book, and that book already exists - so forget it, chum.

I note this will the third opus he's published this year. He has already delivered a gargantuan history of Punk and a revisionist tome on Sgt Pepper in which he attempts to diss the reputation of the late Ian MacDonald, a writer of a style, wit and insight that Heylin can never hope to emulate.

As Jude says, borrow it from the library.

Philip

[Big Dave]

I've tried to track a decent biography / blog whatever you want call it about this chap and background via the interweb, but not had much sucess.  Is there a reason for his being reclusive?

[Jim]

the reason may well be that he is just a nomark hack

[Big Dave]

And not even a good one at that.

[Jules Gray]

the reason may well be that he is just a nomark hack

In his defence - his book on Dylan's studio session, Behind Closed Doors, is excellent.

Jules

[GubGub (Al)]

the reason may well be that he is just a nomark hack

In his defence - his book on Dylan's studio session, Behind Closed Doors, is excellent.

Jules

As is his biography, Behind The Shades.

I read NMSR when it first came out and quite enjoyed it, if that is the right word given that it is a very sad tale. I don't remember feeling particularly aggrieved by anything and, of course, there is little other information out there to counter the assertions. Patrick Humphries' Fairport biography is painfully thin & superficial. To be fair to Heylin, he was handed someone else's manuscript that was deemed to be unpublishable and asked to make something usable out of it, so how much of what he says is actually his own personal opinion is open to question. Sorry Jude, not trying to diminish your feelings here. Just giving my instictive reaction to the book on an initial reading. I know more now so if I read it again I may respond differently.

I do wish though that somebody would really get hold of the whole Fairport (& alumni) story and do it proper detailed justice in book form. And I mean the whole 40 years. Yes it is a niche audience but it is a tale every bit as fascinating as that of more celebrated musical journeys such as those of Fleetwood Mac or Pink Floyd (for example).

[Ollie]

the reason may well be that he is just a nomark hack

In his defence - his book on Dylan's studio session, Behind Closed Doors, is excellent.

Jules

As is his biography, Behind The Shades.

I read NMSR when it first came out and quite enjoyed it, if that is the right word given that it is a very sad tale. I don't remember feeling particularly aggrieved by anything and, of course, there is little other information out there to counter the assertions. Patrick Humphries' Fairport biography is painfully thin & superficial. To be fair to Heylin, he was handed someone else's manuscript that was deemed to be unpublishable and asked to make something usable out of it, so how much of what he says is actually his own personal opinion is open to question. Sorry Jude, not trying to diminish your feelings here. Just giving my instictive reaction to the book on an initial reading. I know more now so if I read it again I may respond differently.

I do wish though that somebody would really get hold of the whole Fairport (& alumni) story and do it proper detailed justice in book form. And I mean the whole 40 years. Yes it is a niche audience but it is a tale every bit as fascinating as that of more celebrated musical journeys such as those of Fleetwood Mac or Pink Floyd (for example).

Simon and Peggy should do a collaberation.

[Simon Nicol]

Our pal from DC spent a lot of time, effort and love on an independently researched biography of Sandy around the same time as Clinton Heylin was doing his thing. I'm a bit muddled about the reasons why HIS publishers beat up HER publishers in the race to the finish, but sometimes life is not fair. I have a copy of her manuscript here on this desktop: it reads to me more of the woman I remember but I am not in the position to disseminate it: maybe in the interest of balance it might one day become available.
Her web contact is http://www.rambles.net/pamela_winters.html and her name is Pam.

[Barry]

I believe that that one was available on the net for a while, but no longer.  Shame.  I'd love to read it.