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« on: July 12, 2007, 08:52:32 PM » |
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Okay people. My lack of enthusiasm for this track is well documented on this board. I am currently listening to "Bruised and Beaten Songs" - one of the CD's from the Cropredy Capers Boxed Set. The next track is SLOTH. It plays for 19 minutes and 25 seconds. Anyone care to place a small wager as to how long I will stick with it?
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2007, 09:03:05 PM » |
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Sorry to double post....we have only just reached "she's run away, she's run away....." I've not heard this version before, (featuring RT and Jerry Donahue) and I must say it is more interesting than the version I am used to. A tad atonal in places.... but more interesting..... I'll shut up now. Other than to let you know when I lose the will to live
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2007, 09:04:28 PM » |
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You might just get to like it ................ .......................................
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2007, 09:11:53 PM » |
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Doncha cry, doncha cry..... Nearly there peeps! LOL!
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2007, 09:13:05 PM » |
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Until the bass solo starts. I guess if ANYONE can be allowed a bass solo it should be Mr Pegg, but still... I love Sloth in it's earlier incarnations- it's a bloody good song when it doesn't descend into a Tap-esque noodle-fest . Live Convention is a good version, Full House even better.
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2007, 09:14:06 PM » |
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Well blimey heck, I made it! Sorry to dominate this thread Mods - but it was of little interest to anyone else. LOL! Fair enough Maybe I will have to modify my opinion re Sloth. Not too much though Goodnight, and I love you all!
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2007, 09:15:14 PM » |
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2007, 11:28:10 PM » |
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I Lurrrrve Sloth.
One day I'm going to create a three CD mix of all the versions I own.
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2007, 11:56:52 PM » |
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Until the bass solo starts. I guess if ANYONE can be allowed a bass solo it should be Mr Pegg, but still... I love Sloth in it's earlier incarnations- it's a bloody good song when it doesn't descend into a Tap-esque noodle-fest . Live Convention is a good version, Full House even better. I like the Bass Solo (especially as I'm a Bass player too), but do agree that if you aren't in the right sort of mood, it can be a bit, erm, well, you know what I mean. It maybe it's because doesn't really fit in with some of the bands material from that period - still bloody good though, but just in a different sort of way.
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2007, 01:27:04 AM » |
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Sloth along with the end of Sailors Life and Reno Nevada are well Fairport at their jam band best something that is no longer part of the tradition of the band and really only stumbles out at Cropredy nowadays, something to be enjoyed not endured but when the dynamics of the song are sacrificed to the noodle fest Sloth can become it's a crying shame..
Been listening to the Dead all day so that may explain it all.
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2007, 08:14:14 AM » |
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You are hitting the nail there. Although I am not as much against Sloth as GowerFlower it is one of the very very few songs of Fc that are rather irrellevant to me. Reason being: with is whole structure it is trotting along a Deadhead`s path. I do have a couple of Dead records but well, nice in it very own time, but only then, and as said before it sort of sticks out or is a bit a stranger within Fairport`s "usual" range of music, Anyway, the good thing is, some like, some don`t, but all of us find quite a lot to like under Fairport`s musical roof.
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2007, 08:51:37 AM » |
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The first time I heard/saw Sloth played live was in a marquee on a hot July night in 1979 at Thoresby in Notts.
It was magical.. Swarb's fiddling is still in my mind from that gig.. hauntingly beautiful and absolutely unforgettable.. I wish someone had recorded that night!
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2007, 09:13:00 AM » |
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The first time I heard/saw Sloth played live was in a marquee on a hot July night in 1979 at Thoresby in Notts.
It was magical.. Swarb's fiddling is still in my mind from that gig.. hauntingly beautiful and absolutely unforgettable.. I wish someone had recorded that night!
Ah well, Jen, you have a rather lovely setting there. And Swarb of course It's probably a track best heard live.
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2007, 09:18:11 AM » |
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I first heard sloth when i was about 9 years old and I've been a fan of the track ever since. I used to plague my parents asking what the lyrics actualy meant they couldn't answer either!
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2007, 09:21:22 AM » |
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All the way through. Shame the version from Broughton Castle '81 was never released ..... I recall it being mesmeric .....
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2007, 10:01:29 AM » |
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I can do a 9 minute, a 10 minute, even up to say a 12 minute Sloth, but if they stretch it out much longer then I start to think it stops being a haunting ensemble piece of epic proportions, and starts being a self indulgent endurance test!
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2007, 10:14:52 AM » |
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Mesmeric is the right word for the version I heard above ..
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2007, 10:51:32 AM » |
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Being a child of the 70`s and all that Progressive stuff around . I found out fairly quickly that if a track was`nt at least an "LP "side long it was only called a "Ditty ". Therefore , Sloth comes into my favourite charts very highly but in my humble opinion it just isnt long enough to compete with the greats such as Mountain`s - Nantucket Sleighride (TWIN PEAKS version )_etc etc .--- It could be ----I`d pay good money for a 35/40 + minute version of Sloth . The chaps could do it just by adding some of RT`s Cavalry Cross, Night Comes In and finish off with a Sailors Life / Bonny Bunch of Roses , crescendo . There you are -- WOW ---a dream set list . Boy ----was`nt there some superb "Long " numbers around in those days . I feel a new thread coming on .
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2007, 12:19:12 PM » |
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I Lurrrrve Sloth.
One day I'm going to create a three CD mix of all the versions I own.
Now ThaT would be a CD worth having... sigh Well, I'd like it, non stop Sloth oh yes
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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2007, 12:50:11 PM » |
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Dependant on what mood I'm in:-
Right Mood - All of it, the longer the version the better Wrong Mood - Skip track
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