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« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2007, 06:36:38 PM »



" ... a singer named Chris While ... "
 


Good job they didn't get a plumber named Chris While.

Anyway the article was written by a journalist named. . .oh, er, hang on, I've forgotten.


Has she got a brother called Walker?
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« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2007, 05:39:41 PM »


I was reading through the Box of Peggs book last night and came across a newspaper article about Fairport from 1970 (page 10 if anyone is interested) The first thing that struck me was that they listed the line up and what they played, put then in the pictures showed SN on bass, RT on mando. But then I read it. There were soooo many mistakes, it was unbelieveable. Fairport form in 66, 'David Swarbrick now on lead vocals, the first time a male has done the singing since the groups inception'


So who was the first male *lead* on vocals, Ollie?
And you would have seen Simon on bass at the warm-up last night, so that was possible back then too.
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« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2007, 06:04:58 PM »

Iain Matthews?  Huh
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« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2007, 06:11:57 PM »



I was reading through the Box of Peggs book last night and came across a newspaper article about Fairport from 1970 (page 10 if anyone is interested) The first thing that struck me was that they listed the line up and what they played, put then in the pictures showed SN on bass, RT on mando. But then I read it. There were soooo many mistakes, it was unbelieveable. Fairport form in 66, 'David Swarbrick now on lead vocals, the first time a male has done the singing since the groups inception'


So who was the first male *lead* on vocals, Ollie?
And you would have seen Simon on bass at the warm-up last night, so that was possible back then too.


Yeah, like Skirky said, Iain Matthews. Also, there is no captions on the pics, so it was unclear who was who. And now looking at it, it wasn't a newspaper article, it was from the programme of the Bath Music Festival, 1970
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« Reply #44 on: August 08, 2007, 09:43:15 AM »


Is Beeswing really about Anne Briggs? Was she really a laundry girl? Did she really marry a man called Romany Brown? Hard weather and hard booze? Or is it just about someone a bit like her? The latter I think.


Well, we're all too sophisticated here to make snap judgments. We leave that to the journos. Here's what the man himself says about Anne Briggs:

'... I loved her singing and I've certainly got her records. I wrote "Beeswing" about that time, about the '60s and people like Anne and Vashti Bunyan, and about the time when people were beginning to drop out of conventional society and cities and go rambling' (RT in booklet notes to Anne Briggs: A Collection).

 
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« Reply #45 on: August 08, 2007, 10:36:30 AM »


..the first time a male has done the singing since the groups inception


...who was the first male *lead* on vocals...?


A couple of relevant snippets from the current edition of Record Collector:

Jude on her leaving the band:
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I don't think that my voice blended particularly well with Ian's...


Simon on the 'vocal attack' strategy after Sandy left:
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We would take a song like Walk Awhile and take advantage of the fact that it was divided up into verses and share it out like that. The more difficult choices were things like Poor Will, but as Richard had written it, it sort of fell to him. Sir Patrick Spens was the matter of an arrangement - we just worked out an arrangement that did work well and spread the load between us.  I suppose that was the way we developed, and confidence came from that, because nobody was actually thrust into the front. Initially, of course, that was a Sandy vocal.
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« Reply #46 on: August 08, 2007, 10:57:04 AM »

That seems to suggest that no one was taking 'lead' at the time. So, depending on the journos visit, he could have thought that anyone was lead.

btw - re Ian Matthews - he was only in the band during Sandy's time, so would never have been taking lead vocals. He also left in January 1969, and wouldn't have featured post-Sandy.
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« Reply #47 on: August 08, 2007, 10:58:50 AM »

I personally think that Jude's voice blended perfectly with Iain's, better than Sandy's certianly. They both have that sort of (please don't take this the wrond way Jude) poshness to them. I'd love to hear Jude sing Fotheringay or WKWTTG as I think she'd do them justise. I don't know why they don't use Jude as Sandy's stand in anyway...can't wait to hear Jude and IM singing together again. Oh and Chris, IM was on the first album and did the majority of the singing

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« Reply #48 on: August 08, 2007, 11:05:35 AM »

Maybe so, but was only 'in the band' from November 1967.
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« Reply #49 on: August 08, 2007, 11:09:15 AM »

Iain was in the band during my time, he was the first 'proper' male lead singer.

Before then, Simon and Richard would share the vocals with me.

Hope this clarifies things. Cheesy
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« Reply #50 on: August 08, 2007, 04:51:26 PM »

Iain really was great with FC.  I would go so far as to say the best male singer FC ever had.  Grin
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« Reply #51 on: August 08, 2007, 06:09:58 PM »


Iain really was great with FC.  I would go so far as to say the best male singer FC ever had.  Grin


I agree...Hope Iain will be joining the band on Saturday at some point. Did he show up at warm-up gigs, anyone?

And to be pedantic -don't say you've not asked for it Chris  Wink- he was the sole, gigging lead singer for several weeks before Sandy joined FC. They supposedly got brassed off with people asking where the girl singer was after Jude's departure that they decided to audition for one! Hence Sandy asking Fairport to audition for her....!!

IMHO, the Denny/Matthews vocal blend is one of the FC's career highlights...That bit on I'll Keep It With Mine ("the conductor...still stuck on the line") is sublime  Smiley
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« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2007, 08:30:13 PM »



btw - re Ian Matthews - he was only in the band during Sandy's time


where do i start here,its just so wrong
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« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2007, 01:40:38 PM »

Not according to the FC Fan Site.

If that's wrong, I'll happily sit corrected.
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« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2007, 01:42:34 PM »


Not according to the FC Fan Site.

If that's wrong, I'll happily sit corrected.


Iain Matthews changed his name from MacDonald to Matthews after the 1st album. Still the same bloke.
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« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2007, 01:43:18 PM »

Yes, I know that Ollie - I've known Fairport longer than you've been alive....
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« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2007, 01:48:35 PM »

e was on the ist lp "Fairport Convention" with Jude
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Iain was in the band during my time, he was the first 'proper' male lead singer.

Before then, Simon and Richard would share the vocals with me.

Hope this clarifies things. Cheesy
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« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2007, 01:59:23 PM »

Indeed it did. Ollie needs to read the whole thread before quoting from a post that Jude had sorted, and I ackonwledged.
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« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2007, 02:18:59 PM »

C'mon people, let it go.....
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« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2007, 02:41:50 PM »

5 star review of Friday's 'L  &L' set in today's guardian  (I'm having trouble with the link..)
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