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« Reply #140 on: October 31, 2007, 05:22:25 PM » |
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Simon is the Master of the Subordinate Clause and I'm not very good with complex sentences, but I think he indicated that he would have liked to have been a primary school teacher, like Stuart Marson; either that or he wished he was about to take early retirement, like Stuart Marson, although I hope it was the former because in my opinion, despite all the problems, primary school teacher is still one of the best jobs on the planet and also I wouldn't want any member of Fairport to retire just yet!
Don't panic! Simon's used a similar intro for both Lancashire Hills and Close to the Wind (the "other" Stuart Marston song). Basically, although he hasn't had the structured career and (particularly!) the pension which follows, he acknowledges that he is fortunate to have followed a path which Stuart could only aspire to - only it's much funnier when Simon tells it! No indication of retirement just yet, and anyway there's a Wintour in the offing. steve (A slightly off-topic PS, but I think "Lancashire Hills" and "Close to the Wind" are two of the most beautiful songs from that particular Fairport period) |
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« Reply #141 on: October 31, 2007, 07:08:05 PM » |
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(A slightly off-topic PS, but I think "Lancashire Hills" and "Close to the Wind" are two of the most beautiful songs from that particular Fairport period)
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« Reply #142 on: October 31, 2007, 07:17:16 PM » |
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(A slightly off-topic PS, but I think "Lancashire Hills" and "Close to the Wind" are two of the most beautiful songs from that particular Fairport period)
Seconded! OT, sorry, where were we? Can you have a particular Fairport era for songs that weren't originally Fairport songs? The Fairport era when Fairport were 'semi-retired' then, eh? It's very confusing isn't it?!  |
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« Reply #143 on: November 01, 2007, 10:42:16 AM » |
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(A slightly off-topic PS, but I think "Lancashire Hills" and "Close to the Wind" are two of the most beautiful songs from that particular Fairport period)
Seconded! OT, sorry, where were we? Can you have a particular Fairport era for songs that weren't originally Fairport songs? The Fairport era when Fairport were 'semi-retired' then, eh? It's very confusing isn't it?! Interesting debating point given that the credits on "Before Your Time" include Messrs Pegg, Mattacks, Conway and Sanders.  (Oh.....and apologies to Mr Marson for inadvertantly including an extra "t" in his surname in a previous post.) Now what was this topic about? steve |
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« Reply #144 on: November 01, 2007, 10:45:31 AM » |
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Interesting debating point given that the credits on "Before Your Time" include Messrs Pegg, Mattacks, Conway and Sanders. steve But you could say the same (or similar) about Sandy albums or Richard albums at times.... I don't think the songs on those are necessarily indicative of a 'Fairport era' even though they use lots of Fairport personnel...It's certainly confusing though |
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« Reply #145 on: November 01, 2007, 10:57:31 AM » |
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Interesting debating point given that the credits on "Before Your Time" include Messrs Pegg, Mattacks, Conway and Sanders. steve But you could say the same (or similar) about Sandy albums or Richard albums at times.... I don't think the songs on those are necessarily indicative of a 'Fairport era' even though they use lots of Fairport personnel...It's certainly confusing though Buit both of Simon's solo outings occured after Gladys Leap when Fc had reformed and were a fully functioning bang again, not in semi retirement so should not be treated as FC but Simon doing what he wanted to do. |
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« Reply #146 on: November 01, 2007, 11:04:05 AM » |
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Interesting debating point given that the credits on "Before Your Time" include Messrs Pegg, Mattacks, Conway and Sanders. steve But you could say the same (or similar) about Sandy albums or Richard albums at times.... I don't think the songs on those are necessarily indicative of a 'Fairport era' even though they use lots of Fairport personnel...It's certainly confusing though Buit both of Simon's solo outings occured after Gladys Leap when Fc had reformed and were a fully functioning bang again, not in semi retirement so should not be treated as FC but Simon doing what he wanted to do. Close to the Wind came out on, er, Close to the Wind by Swarb & Nicol (Woodworm '84 from memory)... "so should not be treated as FC" is I think the point I was trying to make.... Incidentally this led me to Simon's wiki article (to check the date).. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Nicol He's not actually the band's longest-serving member is he? That honour surely belongs to Peggy.... Sorry, mods, waffling now... |
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« Reply #147 on: November 01, 2007, 06:04:14 PM » |
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To bring this topic back OT - Chris's picture diary is now up on the site. http://www.fairportconvention.com/gallery.php?gallery=2 Some great pictures, but it says that Gerry rejoined at Papplewick. I thought it was after that. And is that picture really Papplewick Village Hall? Very grand if it is. |
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« Reply #148 on: November 01, 2007, 08:01:10 PM » |
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No Chris Leslie must have overdosed on Red Bush tea that night.. Gerry wasn't at Papplewick and that must be a different Papplewick VH!! Nice pic though  |
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« Reply #149 on: November 01, 2007, 09:50:47 PM » |
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« Reply #150 on: November 01, 2007, 10:19:08 PM » |
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« Reply #151 on: November 03, 2007, 03:20:48 PM » |
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He's [Simon] not actually the band's longest-serving member is he? That honour surely belongs to Peggy.... I think Simon has the longest service in total, while Peggy has the longest unbroken service in Fairport.... |
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« Reply #152 on: November 03, 2007, 03:47:40 PM » |
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He's [Simon] not actually the band's longest-serving member is he? That honour surely belongs to Peggy.... I think Simon has the longest service in total, while Peggy has the longest unbroken service in Fairport.... Peggy's been in the band for 38 years. Simon took 5 out in mid-70's, so in total 35 years. (I am really really bored today, BTW) |
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« Reply #153 on: November 03, 2007, 06:47:40 PM » |
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ollys right you know
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« Reply #154 on: November 04, 2007, 07:28:43 AM » |
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Don't panic! Simon's used a similar intro for both Lancashire Hills and Close to the Wind (the "other" Stuart Marston song). Basically, although he hasn't had the structured career and (particularly!) the pension which follows, he acknowledges that he is fortunate to have followed a path which Stuart could only aspire to - only it's much funnier when Simon tells it!
No indication of retirement just yet, and anyway there's a Wintour in the offing.
steve
(A slightly off-topic PS, but I think "Lancashire Hills" and "Close to the Wind" are two of the most beautiful songs from that particular Fairport period)
I know the conversation has moved on somewhat but I have been thinking about this issue on and off for the last few days and I think I understand now, so please indulge me for a little while longer and then I'll be quiet. At Dartford, Simon explained how Stuart Marson, primary school teacher and author of Over The Lancashire Hills, would have liked to have been a musician and maybe follow the same career path as him. Simon returned the compliment by recognising the important work that Stuart has done with children over the years and said that he would have liked to have done the same – a kind of mutual admiration, if you like. The idea of it being a circular thing was mentioned. None of this was told in a funny way – more wistfully reflective, I’d say. Inspired by Over the Lancashire Hills, which has a personal meaning for me as well as the Kathleen Ferrier one, I have just started reading, ‘Letters and Diaries of Kathleen Ferrier’ edited by Christopher Fifield. Even when she was famous, touring America and Europe, and playing the Royal Albert Hall, Kathleen still went to small venues for some of her recitals. One of these recitals was in the village in which I grew up and the place gets a mention in the book. It is likely that ‘my person’ saw her perform there. Circles again! |
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« Reply #155 on: November 05, 2007, 10:19:02 AM » |
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ollys right you know
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« Reply #156 on: November 05, 2007, 10:36:52 PM » |
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Glad to see a profound well of deep philosophy is being mined here!  .... Tautology apart that is... |
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« Reply #157 on: November 06, 2007, 12:39:51 PM » |
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Which gig on the acoustic autumn tour did you attend, Jack? And what did you think of it?
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