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« on: November 05, 2007, 10:33:34 PM » |
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Whilst extolling "The Way I Feel;" as part of the thread on "A Sailor's Life" I just listened to the track on my gear new system... Just listen to Jerry D take off at 2:37.... Now, ladeez 'n genullmen, I love and revere James Burton, but hell... take it away Jerry!!! And the counterpoint at 4.05... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..... And that's without Sandy and Trevor's exquisite singing!!! PLAY IT LOUD!!
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2007, 12:50:43 PM » |
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I have been a fan of Jerry's playing since he was in FC, and wondered where he'd gone to prior to an apparently recent resurfacing! Somewhere I have a videotape of a TV programme on the history of the electric guitar, in which Jerry did all of the demonstrations - fab! Not only does he play beautifully, but it all seems so absolutely effortless. There is a video of FC doing Brilliancy/Cherokee on YouTube, and Jerry is playing the unison line with Swarb and they're just looking at eachother, and Jerry's fingers are an effortless blur on the frets. I can also now report that he's a really nice guy, too - we bumped into him and the lovely Kristina outside the stage door at Peggy's do last weekend, and they were both really up for having a good chat; partly as a result I'm now going to see the Gathering at Stevenage next week. DC
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2007, 01:34:04 PM » |
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and Jerry's fingers are an effortless blur on the frets.
The blurring effect makes it impossible to count his fingers - I swear he has extra ones! He's just too incredibly talented for words!
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2007, 06:03:25 PM » |
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This thread leaves me wanting to play the cd and it is at home. I will play it tonight. Am I the only one who is having a hard tme not buying the fotheringay with the 4 live tracks? I want the fotheringay 2 project now!!!!! With a bonus dvd
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2007, 09:57:19 PM » |
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There is a video of FC doing Brilliancy/Cherokee on YouTube, and Jerry is playing the unison line with Swarb and they're just looking at eachother, and Jerry's fingers are an effortless blur on the frets.
Mattacks is playing bass guitar!
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2007, 09:58:37 PM » |
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I want the fotheringay 2 project now!!!!!
Just be patient - it'll appear in less than a year!
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2007, 10:01:54 PM » |
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There is a video of FC doing Brilliancy/Cherokee on YouTube, and Jerry is playing the unison line with Swarb and they're just looking at eachother, and Jerry's fingers are an effortless blur on the frets.
Mattacks is playing bass guitar! he used to do quite a bit of that class of thing,and a bit of piano on the side
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2007, 10:43:20 AM » |
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There is a video of FC doing Brilliancy/Cherokee on YouTube, and Jerry is playing the unison line with Swarb and they're just looking at eachother, and Jerry's fingers are an effortless blur on the frets.
Mattacks is playing bass guitar! he used to do quite a bit of that class of thing,and a bit of piano on the side eg: Bridge Over the River Ash (bass), Hiring Fair (keyboards). DC
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2007, 05:04:10 PM » |
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There is a video of FC doing Brilliancy/Cherokee on YouTube, and Jerry is playing the unison line with Swarb and they're just looking at eachother, and Jerry's fingers are an effortless blur on the frets.
Mattacks is playing bass guitar! he used to do quite a bit of that class of thing,and a bit of piano on the side eg: Bridge Over the River Ash (bass), Hiring Fair (keyboards). DC . . .the sax solo on Baker Street
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2007, 06:14:07 PM » |
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That was Raphael Ravenscroft, unless it's a pseudonym.
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2007, 06:37:20 PM » |
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That was Raphael Ravenscroft, unless it's a pseudonym.
There's a can of worms you've opened. That was thought to be a pseudonym for Bob Holness, a TV bloke. (Sorry, veering slightly off topic)
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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2007, 11:04:37 AM » |
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Nonsense. It was definitely Dave Mattacks.
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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2007, 04:19:41 PM » |
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Here's a thing: the Baker Street album was recorded here in Chippy - Gerry and Hugh (his producer) were great fans of the studio - as was I. Topping to walk to work! (The original, unreleased version of Shoot Out The Lights was done in the same time period with some shared personnel.)
And my point is.... the mighty PETE ZORN (the only thing he's scared of is Kryptonite) was in Gerry's band and was down to play THAT sax break: but he developed the world's most untimely tooth abscess and handed the role to Raf.
The rest, as they say, is Geography. (Don't change the subject!!!)
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2007, 06:14:22 PM » |
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Speaking of Mattacks playing bass, lets not forget that Bruce played bass on Farewell, Farewell on Bridge Over The River Ash and Flatback Caper!
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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2007, 11:22:15 AM » |
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For David's benefit:
The turnout at Stevenage was good - quite a large theatre, which I'd guess was about 2/3 full? The band made some comments about the size of the audience, suggesting that a well-attended gig was the exception on this tour. They commented that the previous evening (?Skegness) there were four men and a dog, and the men left at the interval. Having said that, several people sitting close to where I was didn't come back after the break. I spoke to a few people who I've met before (I used to work with one of them) at gigs, FC and RT fans, Cropredy veterans etc, and the consensus was one of a general feeling of disappointment. Maybe we're spoiled - FC touring too much? - I don't think so!
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2007, 02:08:06 PM » |
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Oh dear. It really does sound like a real pig's ear of a project. Which given the quality of the personnel involved is a bloody travesty....
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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2007, 02:17:41 PM » |
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Hi Clive, Could you expand on the possible source of the disappointment?
Choice of instruments played? e.g., they played all an acoustic set when everyone was expecting/hoping to see JD on electric. Poor musicianship? Poor song selection? Inability to mesh as a band? Poor rapport with the audience? Poor production values (lighting, sound,etc)?
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2007, 02:22:43 PM » |
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For David's benefit:
The turnout at Stevenage was good - quite a large theatre, which I'd guess was about 2/3 full? The band made some comments about the size of the audience, suggesting that a well-attended gig was the exception on this tour. They commented that the previous evening (?Skegness) there were four men and a dog, and the men left at the interval. Having said that, several people sitting close to where I was didn't come back after the break. I spoke to a few people who I've met before (I used to work with one of them) at gigs, FC and RT fans, Cropredy veterans etc, and the consensus was one of a general feeling of disappointment. Maybe we're spoiled - FC touring too much? - I don't think so!
DC
But what was the show like, Clive? INYHO?
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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2007, 06:18:14 PM » |
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Difficult to put my finger on it - certainly no problems with the musicianship, it was all electric, basically, drums, bass guitar, two guitars, mandolin/gob-iron, vocals. I think it was a mix of choice of material and a "failure to gel" thing, plus the issue with the sound quality - drums way too far up to begin with, and the vocals generally lost in the mix. The latter was a particular problem with a lot of unfamiliar (to me) material in the set. The sound did improve, but the vocals were still lost. I got the impression that there wasn't much rapport with the audience - polite applause rather than the sort of out-and-out enthusiasm that I've come to be used to with the likes of FC, RT, SoH. etc, etc.
All this is a purely subjective response, of course, and very much IMHO (although a couple of friends I spoke to who were also there were disappointed, too). Being a long-time fan of Jerry I find it difficult to write a less than enthusistic review for one of my heroes. I really enjoyed what he did at Cropredy and at Peggy's party, but this just didn't hit the spot.
DC
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