Fairport@Forty DVD

[jude]

If you look at the comments here
http://www.fairportconvention.com/general_news.php#news1

Gareth has answered two of the questions that you've all been asking, I think

[Nick]

The L&L line-up agreed the BBC could record and broadcast one airing of their performance but any further release would be down to that particular band, not Fairport Convention.

Is an interesting comment and understandable in the context of this DVD.

More intriguingly though, it still keeps open the possibility of further release of L&L ...  

Cheers

Nick

[koho (Koen)]

Fair enough, it's down to earlier mentioned Powers That Be, not so much the current band nor the compiler. I believe there was also someone (RT's management? I think? Or am I talking bollox?) who back in 1997 veto'd the filming of the 30th Anniversary at Cropredy 1997 which was a shame - but at least the Cropredy Box 3CD set emerged from that so there was a (wonderful) document of that edition, which apparently we won't have this time.
I can then only assume that the band had little choice - no DVD at all or a DVD which at least (I hope) does give a proper taste of Cropredy 2007 even though it meant some mouthwatering performances had to be left off.

Damn Powers That Be.

I still won't pay 20 quid - ever - for any DVD. I would for a bootleg full filmed version of FC (ALL FC) at Cropredy 2007 but of course, I did not write that last bit.

[Mindwarper]

When I look at a live cd/dvd, I look for my favorite songs or rarities. Stuff that is rarely played or songs I want to hear. If there is enough that interests me, I buy it. Next I hope that the sound quality is good. My next hope is that there is no interviews, especially talking over songs. Next I hope the songs are complete. This DVD seems not to have an inspired set list according to my priorities.

I have worked with bands on music dvds. You can not make all the fans or even band members happy. You just do the best with what you've got. I'm sure this was a project of love that was not made just for profit. We obviously care about FC . The film maker decided interviews were important. It is probably low on some of our want list. It focuses on the newer material. A FC at forty, not an overview. Again, some people want this.

The website says this is a must for FC fans. Unfortunately, it is not a must for me. It doesn't have what I am interested in. I might get it eventually, but after seeing the setlist, it is no longer a must have.

I do want a DVD of the odd bits of FC. All the tv appearances and promo bits. Something like the airring cupboard tapes, but on DVD.

[Big Dave]

I actually have a much more personal reason for wanting this DVD.
As the majority of you will recall I spent last Cropredy with my leg in a non - weight bearing plaster cast and using crutches.  The prospect of negoiating the field on the crutches was too daunting so I listened to the Saturday night set from the tent.  I was able to hear pretty clearly and jolly good it sounded too.  The opportunity to get a least a glimpse of what it must have been like visually is very important to me, so purchasing the DVD is a must - despite not it not being the full set.

[DaviD J (was geriatrix)]

hmm a quick skim round hmv shows you can pick up your fave take that dvds for under a tenner, my last purchase in store, stackridge, wasn't much over a tenner....bluhorses online £12. I'd expect to get the best prices by buying at source, and reducing overheads ? unless it was something out of the ordinary (musically I mean obviously ;-) )  maybe Im just a tight yorkshireman!

Bluehorses is a double DVD set. Nuffsaid. Kicks ass too! Why haven't they ever been on at Cropredy?

[Jules Gray]

Putting 2 and 2 together it's becoming apparent that Swarb has refused to be featured in the DVD.  He's the only member not featured at all.  And if you take out all the songs that Swarb played on, you take out all of Liege & Lief and most of the other appearances by the old guard.  I'm sure he has his reasons, but it has taken most of the filling out of the sandwich.  This should have been a major release, but that's simply not to be.

Jules

[grahamsomers]

Putting 2 and 2 together it's becoming apparent that Swarb has refused to be featured in the DVD.  He's the only member not featured at all.  And if you take out all the songs that Swarb played on, you take out all of Liege & Lief and most of the other appearances by the old guard.  I'm sure he has his reasons, but it has taken most of the filling out of the sandwich.  This should have been a major release, but that's simply not to be.

Jules

bah, just stole my thunder, I logged in to surmise that as well. Fairynuff, its Swarbs prerogative if it is indeed his decision, can't argue with that. cant understand why though he played well, and i can't have been the only one with the lump in the throat at simons intro to him on friday. It was great to see him back steamin'.
Still begs the question about the appalling way this has been marketed on the site though bigging up beth gibbins, tommy connolly et al , and a few videos that worked brilliantly (in context !) ...(no disrespect intended) in order to persuade us to shell out 20 quid - which I still maintain is over the odds for a single disc live gig offering.  (admittedly I probably still will bbut it...when i calm down, and get over the initial dissapointment)
Perhaps they'll be a 'director's cut' 'special edition' 'fiddle shaped box set' with Swarb lovingly restored at some point..which I'd gladly tip over 20 quid for .....if it included friday and saturday...
I did notice that the blurb has subsequently been 'massaged' to introduce new extras , which sound a bit more interesting.....although still not the fiddlemeister.......come on mate , why not ?

[GubGub (Al)]

Putting 2 and 2 together it's becoming apparent that Swarb has refused to be featured in the DVD.  He's the only member not featured at all.  And if you take out all the songs that Swarb played on, you take out all of Liege & Lief and most of the other appearances by the old guard.  I'm sure he has his reasons, but it has taken most of the filling out of the sandwich.  This should have been a major release, but that's simply not to be.

Jules

This seems to hit the nail on the head. What a shame!

We can only hope for maybe some further iteration down the line. Maybe a CD of the Saturday night (assuming the Friday is out of the question. Personally I would pay almost any amount for One More Chance alone as it had me in tears on the night.

[Jules Gray]

We can only hope for maybe some further iteration down the line. Maybe a CD of the Saturday night (assuming the Friday is out of the question. Personally I would pay almost any amount for One More Chance alone as it had me in tears on the night.

If this theory is correct then if Swarb later relents it would allow any of the material to be released, including Friday.

Jules

[Barry]

You will all be able to ask him soon.  Swarb is our Talk Awhile guest very soon.

[GubGub (Al)]

You will all be able to ask him soon.  Swarb is our Talk Awhile guest very soon.

It occurs to me that there may be another culprit here. DM? It would have much the same effect.

This is all conjecture of course. The veto could have arisen from a number of places including members of the current line up. Who knows? Let's just hope that it doesn't preclude some sort of further release later on.

[koho (Koen)]

"with guest appearances by Richard Thompson, Ashley Hutchings, Judy Dyble, Dave Mattacks, Maart Allcock, Iain Matthews". If I look at the tracklist, the first three and the latter, possibly also DM, are only on 1 song - Time Will Show The Wiser ...? Indeed it's one of the few, maybe the only, "old line up" song done at Cropredy which doesn't feature Swarb.

Wonder if it's indeed him who objected - on paper it indeed seems like it. If so he'll have his reasons, but as a fan I'll throw a very, very big in anyway to whoever crippled what should have been a classic double DVD, even if it was Swarb.
 

I'll give this one a miss for now, sorry.

[koho (Koen)]

It occurs to me that there may be another culprit here. DM? It would have much the same effect.

He's on Time Will Show The Wiser, I would assume?

[GubGub (Al)]

It occurs to me that there may be another culprit here. DM? It would have much the same effect.

He's on Time Will Show The Wiser, I would assume?

Oops, yes sorry, I had overlooked the reference to DM. I can't now remember what he played on during the Saturday performance. I can't see why it would be "Time..." as it was a pre DM track. Red & Gold or Surfeit of Lampreys possibly.

[Jim]

DM did most of the 1st half of the show with Gez in a grateful dead 2 drummer stylee

[jude]

Yes, Dave M played on 'Time will show the wiser...' and so did Gerry

[Jules Gray]

as a fan I'll throw a very, very big in anyway to whoever crippled what should have been a classic double DVD, even if it was Swarb.
 

Swarb's going to be a guest on this forum soon.  I know it goes without saying as we're a very civilised bunch, but please let's not wade in with big boots regarding this matter when he's our guest.

Jules

[GubGub (Al)]

Yes, Dave M played on 'Time will show the wiser...' and so did Gerry

Thanks Jude. Clearly my memory is not what it used to be. Actually I can't remember what it used to be!  

[jude]

as a fan I'll throw a very, very big in anyway to whoever crippled what should have been a classic double DVD, even if it was Swarb.
 

Swarb's going to be a guest on this forum soon.  I know it goes without saying as we're a very civilised bunch, but please let's not wade in with big boots regarding this matter when he's our guest.

Jules

Thankyou Jukes, very well said