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Bob Barrows
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« on: February 07, 2008, 06:40:15 PM » |
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I'm somewhat hesitant to put this question to the man himself, but this is the first I had heard of this rift. Could somebody fill me in on some of the details? When it occurred? What caused it? Thanks
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Pat Watson
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2008, 07:50:23 PM » |
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Yeah. I was wondering that myself. He refers to him as the ''j'' word.
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Jim
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2008, 08:05:26 PM » |
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wasnt the song "Big William" off "9" inspired by Joe Boyd?
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Bob Barrows
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2008, 08:06:43 PM » |
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"9" is one of the albums I haven't heard yet ...
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Ollie
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2008, 08:09:37 PM » |
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Apparently they used to dedicate Adieu Adieu to Joe  |
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Andy Leonard
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2008, 12:11:42 AM » |
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I think you will find that it was Jo Lustig once Fairport's manager not Joe Boyd. Cheers Andy
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Neil
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2008, 02:16:53 AM » |
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Go on ask the question, wasn't there a Cropredy program that Swarb expressed the wish to see in Joe Boyd's wallet? All he can do is not answer |
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Jim
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2008, 07:51:39 AM » |
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I think you will find that it was Jo Lustig once Fairport's manager not Joe Boyd. Cheers Andy
i think you'll find that we were talking about swarbs rift with Joe Boyd not Jo Lustig.cheers Jim |
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GubGub (Al)
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2008, 08:16:59 AM » |
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I think you will find that it was Jo Lustig once Fairport's manager not Joe Boyd. Cheers Andy
i think you'll find that we were talking about swarbs rift with Joe Boyd not Jo Lustig.cheers Jim I think you are at cross purposes here. Andy's comment was, I believe, in response to Ollie's about the dedication of Adieu Adieu, the implications of which I don't think we want to dwell on. Let's just say it was a pun. |
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Jules Gray
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2008, 09:00:15 AM » |
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Go on ask the question, wasn't there a Cropredy program that Swarb expressed the wish to see in Joe Boyd's wallet? All he can do is not answer This is one essential factor I think - Swarb may feel Joe did rather better financially out of Fairport than Swarb did. Swarb has also said that Joe undermined Swarb's confidence in the studio as a singer. I don't think there was much love lost between the two men. Jules |
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2008, 09:57:47 AM » |
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Swarb a singer? Surely you jest. |
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Jules Gray
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2008, 10:00:09 AM » |
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"9" is one of the albums I haven't heard yet ...
Make it your next purchase, Bob - it's a cracking album! Jules |
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Jules Gray
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2008, 10:01:11 AM » |
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Swarb a singer? Surely you jest. Nope. He was a great singer imo. Lots of other folks round here would agree with me too.   Jules |
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2008, 10:11:58 AM » |
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Swarb a singer? Surely you jest. No. Great voice. |
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2008, 10:32:15 AM » |
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I guess his vocals can be described as an acquired taste. Absolutely of my - and lots of others here - taste, I hasten to add ... and FC is full of 'em: take RT or Ashley Hutchings - or Simon. They didn't actually start lead singing until well into their recording careers, and might technically not be the best singers. As in, none of them will probably pass the first round of (urgh) Pop Idol! But what's a technically good singer? Bo-ringgg! I suppose Mariah Carey has a wide range and can be called a technically good singer. I can't stand the sound of her. What lacks there I guess is personality, which to me, people like Swarb etc have in abundance - no one sounds like him, it's extremely distinctive. And although turned into vocalists by necessity, he and RT and Simon etc became very good at it. Hear how Simon has grown since those first lines in Walk Awhile; listen to, say, Lynden Lea delivered by Swarbrick on his last Whippersnapper album. Compare RT now, to Henry The Human Fly. They may not be Pavarotti, but it feels right. And Swarb's singing fitted Fairport's style perfectly. IMHO etc.
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Jules Gray
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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2008, 10:33:37 AM » |
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I guess his vocals can be described as an acquired taste. Absolutely of my - and lots of others here - taste, I hasten to add ... and FC is full of 'em: take RT or Ashley Hutchings - or Simon. They didn't actually start lead singing until well into their recording careers, and might technically not be the best singers. As in, none of them will probably pass the first round of (urgh) Pop Idol! But what's a technically good singer? Bo-ringgg! I suppose Mariah Carey has a wide range and can be called a technically good singer. I can't stand the sound of her. What lacks there I guess is personality, which to me, people like Swarb etc have in abundance - no one sounds like him, it's extremely distinctive. And although turned into vocalists by necessity, he and RT and Simon etc became very good at it. Hear how Simon has grown since those first lines in Walk Awhile; listen to, say, Lynden Lea delivered by Swarbrick on his last Whippersnapper album. Compare RT now, to Henry The Human Fly. They may not be Pavarotti, but it feels right. And Swarb's singing fitted Fairport's style perfectly. IMHO etc.
I'd applaud you if that worked on internet forums! Bloody well put, sir. Jules |
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Andy Leonard
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2008, 11:41:15 AM » |
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Re a few posts back I was answering the baked bean who suggested that Adieu Adieu was dedicated to Joe Boyd and it certainly wasn't it was as I stated to Jo Lustic. Throws teddy in the corner!!!!! Cheers Andy
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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2008, 02:59:16 PM » |
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Swarb a singer? Surely you jest. Nope. He was a great singer imo. Lots of other folks round here would agree with me too. Jules Fair point. Not my cup of tea but I do appreciate that a lot of people here probably would like his singing. Then again, I can't listen to anything by FC after Unhalfbricking. I have tried but I guess its not for me. |
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Jim
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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2008, 03:09:22 PM » |
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i love Swarbs singing with FC
it suited them and the material down to a t
ok hes no Pavarotti or even Presley, but he was just right for the job
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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2008, 03:51:28 PM » |
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Swarb a singer? Surely you jest. Swarb is a very under-rated singer, in my view. I especially love his singing on The Angel Delight, Full House & Babbacombe Lee albums... but, above all, To Althea From Prison is sublime. |
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