Hancocks Chatter

[Sandra]

On the subject of how the Hancocks can move on, may I make a further suggestion?

That in order to vote you have to be a member of Talkawhile and have made at least 10 posts in valid threads, and that the posts in the Hancocks category votes do not count towards you post count.

I have just realised that by posting just posting in every category available saying no more than the name of the nominee you support, plus say one more post in here, makes you eligible to vote, even though you may never have taken any interest in TAW before or may not after.

Don't get me wrong. I welcome new members and if the Hancocks attracts them then all to the good, but I think the votes need to come from members of the forum who have taken an active part in it.

[Amethyst (Jenny)]

I fully agree with that Sandra...  it will be much fairer.

[madsue]

As I said above, I have only voted in categories where I have either seen the bands, or know their music. I'm not in a position to know any of the people nominated personally, so can only go on what I see/hear.

With regard to the voting, would it not be possible to do the exact same thing as is done with the newbies thread. Once a certain number of posts have been made, it just isn't available for me to see any more.  So why not just hide this from anyone who doesn't qualify to vote?

[Keith]

For the first time, I haven't voted at all: I'm just not qualified to. Haven't been to a folk gig for ages, or bought a new bit of music. I really should  

[Nick]

The votes are now closed and the results have been announced!

I shall tidy up these boards as time permits and then we can work on the presentations.

Congratulations to each of the winners!      

[Sir Robert Peel]

Here's quick reference round up:

Musician:  Phil Beer
Live Act:  Demon Barber Roadshow
Horizon:  Leslie and Miller
Trad Song:  Eppie Moray by Fotheringay
Original Song: Cottager's Reply sung by Chris Wood
Good Egg:  Maddy Prior
Ensemble:  Bellowhead
Album:  Trespasser by Chris Wood


Thank you to Nick, Bob B and Sandra -  and everyone who nominated, discussed the merits (and otherwise) of the long and short-listed artists, and who voted.  

[Ollie]

Here's the list of BBC winners

FOLK SINGER OF THE YEAR - Chris Wood
BEST DUO - Chris While & Julie Matthews
BEST GROUP - Lau
ALBUM OF THE YEAR - Trespasser – Chris Wood
BEST ORIGINAL SONG - All You Pretty Girls – Andy Partridge (performed by Jim Moray)
BEST TRADITIONAL TRACK - The Lark in the Morning – Jackie Oates
HORIZON AWARD - Jackie Oates
MUSICIAN OF THE YEAR - Tom McConville
BEST LIVE ACT - The Demon Barbers
LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD - James Taylor
LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD - Judy Collins
FOLK CLUB OF THE YEAR - The Black Swan Folk Club, York


Not many duplications, which is good, in fact just one, and I think that the band in question deserve it

[Sandra]

Good. That's a nice spread of awards then

[frogcrutches]

Just a thought:
Perhaps in future, it might help people get to know some of the nominations if there were links next to their names to their websites etc.
 
I certainly haven't heard of many of the previous nominations.
[Yes, I have heard of Google ]

[mikec]

Good idea Kermit. I know that in some of the threads there were links given but only for some of the acts (maybe lots but I wasn't paying attention all the time )

More work for the mods (sorry-honest  ) but maybe it worth asking the nominees once you decide the acts being taken forward for a link.

Yes the logistics could be difficult, but only if you ask everyone. Every act is only sponsored by a few (seconded by many) so just ask the few.  





Now thinking about it we could open this up to vids as well. So we could vote for best live group on their vid.......

Or maybe not. says he seeing large nichola and smaller yabb bearing down  

[Nick]

I think this is a very good idea...

...with one caveat:

It takes a long time to put together the nominations and polls topics - and I reckon the time would double if the onus were on Colin and/or myself to find the various music or video clips for every artist. Then there is a risk that we will not pick the best footage for a given artist and thus inadvertently influence the ballot.(If someone didn't know two acts, might they be swayed towards the one with the professional looking youtube clip over the one filmed on a mobile phone?)

However, if it fell to the nominator to find the clip that best represented their nomination then they would be encouraged to find the best possible clip.

You have the problem that the BBC R2 nominations would not have clips. However if the rules changed slightly so that BBC candidates had to have a nomination from a Talkawhile member to stay in the poll, then that too would allow someone to gather an appropriate clip for the nomination.

This is thinking-out-loud at the moment and nothing is confirmed. I suggest that we hold the thought until the end of this year and discuss it more when setting up the polls for next year's Hancocks.

Cheers

Nick

[Jules Gray]

I think the clips idea is excellent.  It'll make a big difference to the votes I'm sure.

Jules

[gower flower (Shirl)]

I'm pretty sure I included some YouTube links in my nominaton for the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain for "Best Live Act" award.

They didn't move forward from there but hey - that's showbiz.