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« Reply #80 on: February 13, 2009, 09:53:11 AM » |
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Oooh, someone's not happy...!
>:(If that's the best british journalism can do, there's no hope. What a prat (would have used other terminology but didn't want to offend the ladies) He obviously didn't want to be there so, for no other reason than to sound important, imagined everyone else was feeling the same. Apparently "The Fossil Hunter" is a new song But he might have a point about the plugging: the nearest gig to me was too far to go for me, so I'll have to take his word for the number of plugs, but it looks as though the merch was already in demand, so a couple of plugs for people to go to the merch table at interval and after the gig would have probably been sufficient. He could have been lying, though.
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« Reply #81 on: February 13, 2009, 10:00:19 AM » |
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Of course they plug away remorselessly. They've been doing it for a lot longer than a quarter of a century (first few times I saw them I was being told to buy the Attic Tapes from the 'merch stall').... It's just a big joke, isn't it? At least I'd always assumed it was...has anyone ever bought anything because Ric told them to? I very much doubt it...!
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« Reply #82 on: February 13, 2009, 10:06:56 AM » |
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I hope no one from FC & team read and/or take seriously the "review". The FT is known for its pseudo intellectual superiority complex. The have rubbished the business I work for from time to time (because by bosses refuse to pay their extortionate advert rates perhaps?) its taken as a badge of honour. To have the FT recognise that 'Fairport' exist and that they have to review the tour is a victory in itself. I have written to the editor pointing out the mistakes in the review. Will let you know if this published.
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« Reply #83 on: February 13, 2009, 10:23:36 AM » |
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The man's an idiot!
By most accounts this is turning out to be a lot of people's favourite tour for many a year, mine included. The "plugging" is an in joke that with which the audience are familiar and, indeed, complicit. Does the guy really think that if the audience were treated with such cynicism the band would attract such an affectionate following. And as for trading on old memories, if he bothered to look around he would realise that many of the audience members are not old enough to hold such memories. For them, this incarnation of Fairport is their band.
All in all...Poppycock! What a fool!
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« Reply #84 on: February 13, 2009, 11:07:52 AM » |
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Here is a copy of my letter to the FT. Chances of publication? about 5% - although maybe more if they recognise my email as a subscriber. I don't mean to take it too seriously - but a chance for some world-wide publicity for our good friends is not to be missed.
""To the Editor Financial Times:
Sir, The review of Fairport Convention on tour (Feb 11 Arts Section) has two clear mistakes.
The surname of the lead violinist is spelt SAUNDERS ( not Sanders ).
Chris Leslie has been with the band since 1997 - hardly a 'new boy' - new relative to who? - Charles Darwin? And Gerry Conway, the drummer, joined a year after Chris in any case.
The point about "plug for the “merchandise"" was a worthless comment. What is the band supposed to do? Say "its all rubbish?"? They are self-employed; they make a living selling their work. No Arts Council grants for them. And the reviewer simply misses the running joke that enlivens the band's dialogue with their loyal fans.
While any reviewer is entitled to his opinion, even the writer admits that he was (probably) in a minority of one in his negative comments. I took three very valuable business associates to the Harrogate 'gig' and we all had a fantastic time start to finish. A typical letter of thanks I have received being:
"I can't thank you enough for your hospitality. It rolled back the years and was a thoroughly enjoyable evening. I look forward to an opportunity to reciprocate."
Far better value to me than just another business lunch?
I hope to catch another concert (with my family) before the tour finishes (if I can find one that isn't already 'sold out').
Yours faithfully, ""
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« Reply #85 on: February 13, 2009, 11:23:13 AM » |
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Just one problem. Ric's name actually is Sanders. Saunders is a frequent mistake.
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« Reply #86 on: February 13, 2009, 11:26:12 AM » |
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""To the Editor Financial Times:
Sir, The review of Fairport Convention on tour (Feb 11 Arts Section) has two clear mistakes.
The surname of the lead violinist is spelt SAUNDERS ( not Sanders ).
Whoops!!
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« Reply #87 on: February 13, 2009, 11:31:21 AM » |
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Thanks I've corrected before sending!
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« Reply #88 on: February 13, 2009, 12:26:20 PM » |
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Oh, well it doesn`t really matter. I find this the usual prattling of (a small group of) journalists who are pretty much at unease with themselves and not at all content with their lives and take comfort by showing off how intellectual and above average (in their opinion) they are. To do so the easiest (and least creative way ) is to try to drag something which is positive, successful and joyous for many people into something negative. So what ? Let these writers have their 10 minutes of feeling good. Their remaining 23h50min a day are miserable. For my part, I enjoy Fairport as they were and - even more important - as they are. Peter
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« Reply #89 on: February 13, 2009, 12:46:10 PM » |
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I always thought that the "plugging" was extremely funny as a running gag. Mark Gillespie does the same at his gigs and people just have a good laugh. But - I am German. What do I know about humour?`
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« Reply #90 on: February 13, 2009, 01:34:52 PM » |
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Agreed, it wouldn't be the same without the plugs! Anyway, going to the stall is an opportunity for a chat, that's where the band are - if not at the bar, and it's where the crac starts. Silly man, his loss! But it's made up my mind, I'll definately be braving the skating rink to Tunbridge Wells tonight.
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« Reply #91 on: February 13, 2009, 01:56:00 PM » |
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We shall be there if I can negotiate the roads Yes, Tunbridge Wells today, are the roads all ok around there then Angela? See you there! Situated as I am bang opposite the Hall I can say the roads are fine.
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« Reply #92 on: February 13, 2009, 05:58:15 PM » |
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Oooh, someone's not happy...!
Another mistake is that it makes reference to Chris playing the guitar!
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« Reply #93 on: February 13, 2009, 07:57:56 PM » |
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Stupid, stupid man... (the journalist.. not CL!!)
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« Reply #94 on: February 13, 2009, 08:43:48 PM » |
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That bloke makes a fair point about the constant plugs for the merchandise.The interminable name checks can get on your nerves as well.
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« Reply #95 on: February 13, 2009, 08:56:36 PM » |
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I hope no one from FC & team read and/or take seriously the "review". The FT is known for its pseudo intellectual superiority complex. The have rubbished the business I work for from time to time (because by bosses refuse to pay their extortionate advert rates perhaps?) its taken as a badge of honour. To have the FT recognise that 'Fairport' exist and that they have to review the tour is a victory in itself. I have written to the editor pointing out the mistakes in the review. Will let you know if this published.
Can you point out that Chris is no longer a new boy! I think ten years service, makes him established C xx
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« Reply #96 on: February 13, 2009, 09:02:14 PM » |
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One word for the gig last night at Wycombe ... sublime! The set was varied and fantastic and the guys were tight. The sound was superb. The new encore added some light relief and a few laughs. Well done everyone. Great night.
High Wycombe, certainly a lovely evening but I'm not sure I would agree with the comment about the sound. From my seat in the front row of the circle I thought it was a bit 'boomy', didn't hear much of Ric or Simon's instruments - sorry chaps. Nevertheless, still enjoyed the evening, excellent varied set list and it's Fairport 'innit !!!
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« Reply #97 on: February 13, 2009, 11:14:46 PM » |
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as for the review - twit Not a clue the plugging is done tongue in cheek, it seems to me, and just adds to the overall atmosphere...... ah well.......a minority comment I suspect
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« Reply #98 on: February 14, 2009, 12:15:04 AM » |
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Just to add to the debate about the "this is not an interval...this is a retail opportunity" plugging - to the FC fans, a lot of the merch sells itself - e.g. I bought a Live @ Cropredy '08 CD because I was there, last year I bought a Fairport @ Forty DVD because I was there (me, my other half & my car are on the DVD). I always buy a winter tour programme, and sometimes buy a T-shirt. To object to the plugging is a bit pointless really, as the fans who want to buy merch will always buy it, regardless of whether it's plugged or not.
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« Reply #99 on: February 14, 2009, 08:38:34 AM » |
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Great night at Tunbridge Wells last night. Had a quick chat with Dave Pegg before the show (he was sitting in the foyer working on his laptop), he told me that they were really pleased with the tour so far and hadn't had to cancel any gigs due to the bad weather. The only time they got held up travelling was yesterday on the M25! (just due to normal Friday traffic!)If you want to see the set list & running order from last night click the spoiler button :
After the show managed to have a quick word with Chris and suggested they should try and play at Chatham next year! Also managed to get a photo of my daughter, Claire with Ric
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