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« on: March 05, 2009, 12:31:23 PM »

The new issue of Classic Rock magazine (April) claims that a copy of Liege and Lief "was never far from Kurt Cobain's side". Is this a well-known fact? It's a new one on me.
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2009, 12:34:22 PM »


The new issue of Classic Rock magazine (April) claims that a copy of Liege and Lief "was never far from Kurt Cobain's side". Is this a well-known fact? It's a new one on me.


Never heard it before, but then I've never paid too much attention to the Kurt Cobain mythology, preferring my dead rock stars from a quarter of a century earlier.  

My first response when thinking about Nirvana's music is that he obviously never paid too much attention to it...even the acoustic stuff doesn't really have any obvious connection does it?
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2009, 12:38:14 PM »

it just goes to show he had better taste in music than women
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2009, 12:39:49 PM »


it just goes to show he had better taste in music than women


you can't help who you fall in love with, Jim...................................  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2009, 12:43:26 PM »


My first response when thinking about Nirvana's music is that he obviously never paid too much attention to it...even the acoustic stuff doesn't really have any obvious connection does it?


Well the acoustic stuff did reveal an awareness of American folk music, like Leadbelly.  It's only one small leap from that to checking out a bit of British folk rock!  Personally I can hear some parallels.  Cobain's song Polly is a kind of punk bastard offspring of the trad murder ballad (even if this time, the victim escapes!).

I liked Nirvana.  I was quite taken with Nevermind when it first came out.  But his suicide put me off - I haven't played one of his records since.  Too much darkness and cult of suicide crapola surrounding the vibes of the music now for me.  But that's a shame, because I do think he was a strong songwriter, and that the band was very exciting.

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2009, 12:44:01 PM »



it just goes to show he had better taste in music than women


you can't help who you fall in love with, Jim...................................  Roll Eyes


yeah ,i know, but Courtney Love, thats what happens when your drug intake gets out of control, ask John Lennon, or maybe better to ask Cynthia Cry
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2009, 01:46:37 PM »

Kurt Cobain...what a waste, if he was that down on things all he had to do was retire and never make another record or play another gig, not kill himself ! I agree with the above comment about cult of suicide crapola, when not enough attention is paid to the music he made. As for his love of FC...well, stranger things have happened, I know he loved Black Sabbath, Cheap Trick and even Joy Division (?), so while the theory is a new one on me as well, I can't discount it.
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2009, 01:49:38 PM »

Well if Dave Grohl is a Nick Drake fan why not KC and fairport?
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2009, 02:11:25 PM »

True.

Had the idiot not topped himself he may well have ended up at that US/UK Folk Connections thingie at the South Bank.

Johnny Rotten loved Steeleye so stranger things have happened.
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2009, 02:15:54 PM »

I like Nirvana's music....and recently re-listening I kept thinking I heard folkie influences in the music...maybe I wasn't imagining it.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2009, 02:24:01 PM »

Maybe if you play Territorial Pissings backwards whilst imbibing large quantities of Kurt's anaesthetic of choice you can hear Matty Groves?  

Maybe not.....
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2009, 04:06:31 PM »

What other Fairport sightings are there?
I'll start with a picture of Swarb in the Mott The Hoople box set.
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2009, 04:45:56 PM »

Joe Strummer loved Sandy and wanted to meet her. Never did unfortunately.

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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2009, 05:06:43 PM »

Slightly off topic but I always thought the MTV Nirvana unplugged in New York recording was one of the greatest live performances I have ever heard. There were parts on that that really did make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up!  
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2009, 05:56:42 PM »


Slightly off topic but I always thought the MTV Nirvana unplugged in New York recording was one of the greatest live performances I have ever heard. There were parts on that that really did make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up!  


Absolutely. Cobain's cover of Leadbelly's Where did you sleep last night? is phenomenal.
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« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2009, 07:55:38 PM »

I got into Nirvana way after the event, as I usually do  Roll Eyes ... in retrospect, strange that this became, for a while, "mainstream", a weird little bubble in time - considering what was mainstream before (80s) and after.
Surprised about Cobain being apparently into L&L. It's one of those what if's - what would he have done had he not done what he did in April 1994? He came a long way in a very short period of time. He sure had an interest beyond the more obvious punk/metal/etc influences. As I am into a heavy King Crimson phase currently, I know Cobain was completely into their album Red.

Never mind the hype at the time: Nevermind and In Utero - intense, fantastic.
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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2009, 09:14:54 PM »

I'm not so sure we should read a huge amount into this..Dave Grohl admires Nick Drake, but the FooFighters are not especially reminiscent of Nick.  
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2009, 10:46:04 AM »



Slightly off topic but I always thought the MTV Nirvana unplugged in New York recording was one of the greatest live performances I have ever heard. There were parts on that that really did make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up!  


Absolutely. Cobain's cover of Leadbelly's Where did you sleep last night? is phenomenal.

I didn't know that was a cover.  Shocked

ironicly...Nirvana tunes cheer me up when I'm down. Undecided
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2009, 11:31:50 AM »

There is a school of thought that says that if you're down you should listen to depressive/depressing music as it will match your mood and thus you will find harmony. Cool

Personally, if I'm a bit cheesed off the last thing I want to listen to is Walking in Sunshine, it just serves to remind me what a grumparse I am and reinforces my bad mood. Angry

Nirvana is good for singing along to when you're driving.  Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2009, 11:32:55 AM »




Slightly off topic but I always thought the MTV Nirvana unplugged in New York recording was one of the greatest live performances I have ever heard. There were parts on that that really did make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up!  


Absolutely. Cobain's cover of Leadbelly's Where did you sleep last night? is phenomenal.

I didn't know that was a cover.  Shocked

ironicly...Nirvana tunes cheer me up when I'm down. Undecided


I'm with you there Lady. Nothing like a bit of miserable music to cheer you up!

Going off the subject slightly, I was on the train the other day and I saw a very small boy (about three or so) wearing a Nirvana T-shirt. I couldn't decide what to think of this.. on the one hand, he was evidently born some twelve years too late, and should his parents really be teaching him about angst, death and despair so young? On the other, it beats Twinkle Twinkle Little Star.

That's all assuming that his parents did actually play him the music and that the T-shirt wasn't just an old one of his dad's that had shrunk in the wash and was the only one clean.  
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