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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2010, 11:23:16 PM »

Well without any thought to the music I just thought it was the two 5-syllable names!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sleepy
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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2010, 11:56:59 PM »

Girl singer, four or five blokes, folk moving into folk/rock scene... You can see why Tommy Vance (for it was he) came up with such an off-the-cuff comment. Add the pre-1969 folk/psychedelic material from Tim Buckley, Eric Andersen... Mind you, I can recall more comments about FC being the "British Byrds".
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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2010, 10:37:41 AM »


A comparison that was never particularly liked by the band at the time if I remember rightly.
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Just found this in Fairportfolio from a snippet copied from Disc 23.12.67:
FC singer Judy Dyble: "Anyone who dares compare us with the Jefferson Airplane will be pelted with bad herrings!"  Angry Wink
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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2010, 11:26:12 AM »

I'm intrigued by the idea of "bad" herrings. Grin
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« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2010, 11:57:03 AM »


I'm intrigued by the idea of "bad" herrings. Grin


Oh dear ... how one's words come back to haunt one... Roll Eyes

perhaps I should have said 'gone off' herrings.. in mitigation it was directed to Melody Maker's Chris Welch at the Speakeasy. at probably 3 am after a gig. Yes possibly while Mr Hendrix was playing. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2010, 12:03:03 PM »

Naughty, naughty herrings! Grin
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« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2010, 12:05:04 PM »

Did you mean red herrings Jude?

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« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2010, 12:10:36 PM »


Did you mean red herrings Jude?

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Heaven only knows what I meant... can you remember that far back? Smiley

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« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2010, 12:11:18 PM »



Did you mean red herrings Jude?

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Yes.  I was crying and demanding some milk.   Grin

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« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2010, 12:17:12 PM »



Did you mean red herrings Jude?

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« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2010, 11:06:44 PM »


Oh dear ... how one's words come back to haunt one... Roll Eyes

Something I think the Facebook generation will learn very much the hard way...
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« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2010, 08:26:57 PM »

There is something in the comparison...a whiff of something so similar and yet so much so different.

I'd been wigged out on the Airplane for nearly 2 years when, in mid 69, a friend played me 'Meet...' I could see - hear? - it immediately: a more sensitive, refined - British (as in the way 'Doctor Who' is British and 'Star Wars' is American) - take on the Airplane sound. 'HOLIDAYS' and the first album were immediate aquisitions. While, in retrospect, the drift into English folk - and initially it was a drift - was just beginning on 'HOLIDAYS', the first album was so much more eclectic than anything the Airplane had done (or future Airplanes and Starships would ever do). The Airship have never come as close to cool jazz as 'It's Alright, Ma' (or, for that matter, 'Autopsy'!)

If not for the vibe that FC-are-a-bit-JA, I probably might never have given 'Meet' a chance. So glad I did!!! Pentangle, Steeleye, the Albions...even a willingness to listen to Noah and the Mumfords came from that vibe. Accurate...? Well, yes, in retrospect, FC clearly took more from The Byrds musically than JA..but add the male/female vocal tag....

As for 'RISING', I'd say it's closer to the manufactured sound of 'EARTH' than 'DRAGON FLY' (which sounded more like latter-day JA with a new rocket up their arses - the big change, in the studio at least, came with 'RED OCTOPUS').

Maybe FC should invite JS to be a headliner at Cropredy 2011? JS visit our shores on a fairly-regular basis these days, their last album was a revisitation of their pre-JA folk influences and they often perform semi-acoustic - though still with psychedelic guitar solos!! And maybe a bit of role-swapping...Simon chugging the rhythm on 'Pooneil' while Paul Kantner throws in a few licks at the end of 'Angel Delight'...? For goodness sake, why not?
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« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2010, 11:11:47 PM »

I'm seeing an alternate universe, where Jude never left Fairport, but after several years, eventually all the other guys left, & she recruited a sorry bunch of young corporate hair metal kids & shortened the name of the band to Convention. Someone wake me up.... please!
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« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2010, 11:20:15 PM »


I'm seeing an alternate universe, where Jude never left Fairport, but after several years, eventually all the other guys left, & she recruited a sorry bunch of young corporate hair metal kids & shortened the name of the band to Convention. Someone wake me up.... please!


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« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2010, 11:41:58 PM »

This darn arf make me chuckle.  I got into FC on at best their second wave.  Likewise Jefferson Aeroplane (as I prefer to describe them) - both in about 1976/7 in a desparate effort to be a contrarian.

By that stage they had distinctly different images:

Jefferson Airplane's White Rabbit seemed to be a gateway to LSD

Fairport Convention seemed to be a gateway to Morris Dancing

For some reason I was more attracted to the latter Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2010, 01:33:01 AM »




Jefferson Airplane's White Rabbit seemed to be a gateway to LSD

Fairport Convention seemed to be a gateway to Morris Dancing




That's because...

One pill makes you larger

And one pill makes you small.


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Jefferson Airplane's White Rabbit seemed to be a gateway to LSD

Fairport Convention seemed to be a gateway to Morris Dancing




That's because...

One pill makes you larger

And one pill makes you small.


Goodnight from Edinburgh


I seem to remember you saying somewhere that the Yanks were gravely offended by you asking for beer rather than other substances while on tour there.
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« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2010, 10:06:12 AM »





Jefferson Airplane's White Rabbit seemed to be a gateway to LSD

Fairport Convention seemed to be a gateway to Morris Dancing




That's because...

One pill makes you larger

And one pill makes you small.


Goodnight from Edinburgh




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« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2010, 10:32:38 AM »






Jefferson Airplane's White Rabbit seemed to be a gateway to LSD

Fairport Convention seemed to be a gateway to Morris Dancing




That's because...

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I seem to remember you saying somewhere that the Yanks were gravely offended by you asking for beer rather than other substances while on tour there.


Did they mistake pills for pils?
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« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2010, 08:23:53 PM »


I'm seeing an alternate universe, where Jude never left Fairport, but after several years, eventually all the other guys left, & she recruited a sorry bunch of young corporate hair metal kids & shortened the name of the band to Convention. Someone wake me up.... please!



Ooooh cripes! wake up!!! I haven't gone down the corporate hair metal road.... well ...not yet anyway.. wonder what them there Fields of the Nephilim are up to  Roll Eyes Shocked
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