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« Reply #100 on: October 30, 2010, 02:04:44 PM »

Fantastic 5 star review in the new edition of Word, and Colin Irwin also gives it a glowing review in Mojo.
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« Reply #101 on: October 30, 2010, 02:12:22 PM »

I have been wavering on this. There are many things for me to spend my money on at the moment (yes, I am talking about you Mr Springsteen!) but I think it was Colin Irwin's review that said that despite his undying love for Sandy's music, out takes are out takes for a reason. They may be interesting but ultimately the stuff people will listen to repeatedly is the stuff they are already familiar with and there is nothing essential or revealing in the "new" material. Thus he has convinced me that this is probably £150 that I don't need to spend.

I would like the Fairport Troubadour tracks though.  Undecided
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« Reply #102 on: October 30, 2010, 02:51:14 PM »

ok time to fess up
 i would love the box and if anyone has a spare they dont want.... well....... send it here Roll Eyes
but and its a big but  Roll Eyes ive got the sandy cds , the fotheringay cds the fairport cds the various bootlegs of all 3, cds with sandy on them as guest vocal, the bunch, brian maxine, theres not an awful lot in there i'm missing, so thats why i'm not tempted, that and the price Sad
if and when the unreleased tracks make it onto their own discs "the formerly unreleased songs of Sandy Denny and her chums " for £30 or less i'll get them but till then, no thanks

   this also goes for bruce springsteen,the who and madness all of whom are seeing fit to bring out uber expensive box sets for the xmas market. all of which i already have huge chunks of and they want me to buy again
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« Reply #103 on: October 30, 2010, 03:16:05 PM »

I'm happier with the Springsteen one. I agrree it is over priced but I don't have any of the content except the original Darkness album.

But just to really rattle your cage Jim there is also a ludicrously overpriced deluxe edition of Band On The Run out shortly!  Grin
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« Reply #104 on: October 30, 2010, 04:02:18 PM »


I'm happier with the Springsteen one. I agrree it is over priced but I don't have any of the content except the original Darkness album.

But just to really rattle your cage Jim there is also a ludicrously overpriced deluxe edition of Band On The Run out shortly!  Grin

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« Reply #105 on: October 30, 2010, 04:22:18 PM »



I'm happier with the Springsteen one. I agrree it is over priced but I don't have any of the content except the original Darkness album.

But just to really rattle your cage Jim there is also a ludicrously overpriced deluxe edition of Band On The Run out shortly!  Grin

i wouldnt darken my door with wings records


Thought you might say that!  Wink
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« Reply #106 on: October 30, 2010, 04:30:46 PM »




But just to really rattle your cage Jim there is also a ludicrously overpriced deluxe edition of Band On The Run out shortly!  Grin

i wouldnt darken my door with wings records


Thought you might say that!  Wink


I'm no Wings apologist, but Band On The Run is truly great.

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« Reply #107 on: October 31, 2010, 12:05:02 PM »


I think it was Colin Irwin's review that said that despite his undying love for Sandy's music, out takes are out takes for a reason. They may be interesting but ultimately the stuff people will listen to repeatedly is the stuff they are already familiar with and there is nothing essential or revealing in the "new" material. Thus he has convinced me that this is probably £150 that I don't need to spend.


Al, that sounds like Jim Irvine’s review in The Word you’re quoting. It’s actually more even-handed than you remember: “Every single one of these performances has something to recommend it, an arresting vocal nuance, a fresh shiver from a tonal shift or some exquisite phrasing you haven’t already committed to memory, but you may decide that, on balance, you prefer the music you already know.” Irvine’s review goes on to say that, with 316 tracks to choose from, you can “shuffle the best work into satisfying new sequences to your heart’s content”, creating the “wholly focused record” that “she never got around to making”.

For another view try Graeme Thomson in Uncut: “Much of what she threw away is at least as good as – and often better than – what was released.” He thinks this box “rewrites the accepted narrative of her career.” Or Colin Irwin in Mojo: “much of the bonus material here adds a fascinating corollary to the Denny legacy.”

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« Reply #108 on: October 31, 2010, 12:27:52 PM »



I think it was Colin Irwin's review that said that despite his undying love for Sandy's music, out takes are out takes for a reason. They may be interesting but ultimately the stuff people will listen to repeatedly is the stuff they are already familiar with and there is nothing essential or revealing in the "new" material. Thus he has convinced me that this is probably £150 that I don't need to spend.


Al, that sounds like Jim Irvine’s review in The Word you’re quoting. It’s actually more even-handed than you remember: “Every single one of these performances has something to recommend it, an arresting vocal nuance, a fresh shiver from a tonal shift or some exquisite phrasing you haven’t already committed to memory, but you may decide that, on balance, you prefer the music you already know.” Irvine’s review goes on to say that, with 316 tracks to choose from, you can “shuffle the best work into satisfying new sequences to your heart’s content”, creating the “wholly focused record” that “she never got around to making”.

For another view try Graeme Thomson in Uncut: “Much of what she threw away is at least as good as – and often better than – what was released.” He thinks this box “rewrites the accepted narrative of her career.” Or Colin Irwin in Mojo: “much of the bonus material here adds a fascinating corollary to the Denny legacy.”

Who needs critics anyway?
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Yes, apologies for the erroneous credit. I wasn't denying that he gave it a very positive review but I think his observation about the relationship of the out takes to the original records is a good one and it convinced me that this is probably something I don't need. It is a little like the Beatles Anthology CDs. They were fascinating to listen to once, as documentary but I don't return to them. When I want to listen to the Beatles I go back to the original catalogue. With a music library as vast as mine, any new acquisition has to be something I will go back to. I would love to hear the unreleased material from this box but when the craving for a bit of Sandy comes along, it will be What We Did On Our Holidays, Fotheringay or Sandy that I will reach for and I already have those.
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« Reply #109 on: October 31, 2010, 12:42:01 PM »




I think it was Colin Irwin's review that said that despite his undying love for Sandy's music, out takes are out takes for a reason. They may be interesting but ultimately the stuff people will listen to repeatedly is the stuff they are already familiar with and there is nothing essential or revealing in the "new" material. Thus he has convinced me that this is probably £150 that I don't need to spend.


Al, that sounds like Jim Irvine’s review in The Word you’re quoting. It’s actually more even-handed than you remember: “Every single one of these performances has something to recommend it, an arresting vocal nuance, a fresh shiver from a tonal shift or some exquisite phrasing you haven’t already committed to memory, but you may decide that, on balance, you prefer the music you already know.” Irvine’s review goes on to say that, with 316 tracks to choose from, you can “shuffle the best work into satisfying new sequences to your heart’s content”, creating the “wholly focused record” that “she never got around to making”.

For another view try Graeme Thomson in Uncut: “Much of what she threw away is at least as good as – and often better than – what was released.” He thinks this box “rewrites the accepted narrative of her career.” Or Colin Irwin in Mojo: “much of the bonus material here adds a fascinating corollary to the Denny legacy.”

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Yes, apologies for the erroneous credit. I wasn't denying that he gave it a very positive review but I think his observation about the relationship of the out takes is a good one and it convinced me that this is probably something I don't need. It is a little like the Beatles Anthology CDs. They were fascinating to listen to once, as documentary but I don't return to them. When I want to listen to the Beatles I go back to the original catalogue. With a music library as vast as mine, any new acquisition has to be something I will go back to. I would love to hear the unreleased material from this box but when the craving for a bit of Sandy comes along, it will be What We Did On Our Holidays, Fotheringay or Sandy that I will reach for and I already have those.
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« Reply #110 on: October 31, 2010, 12:47:31 PM »





I think it was Colin Irwin's review that said that despite his undying love for Sandy's music, out takes are out takes for a reason. They may be interesting but ultimately the stuff people will listen to repeatedly is the stuff they are already familiar with and there is nothing essential or revealing in the "new" material. Thus he has convinced me that this is probably £150 that I don't need to spend.


Al, that sounds like Jim Irvine’s review in The Word you’re quoting. It’s actually more even-handed than you remember: “Every single one of these performances has something to recommend it, an arresting vocal nuance, a fresh shiver from a tonal shift or some exquisite phrasing you haven’t already committed to memory, but you may decide that, on balance, you prefer the music you already know.” Irvine’s review goes on to say that, with 316 tracks to choose from, you can “shuffle the best work into satisfying new sequences to your heart’s content”, creating the “wholly focused record” that “she never got around to making”.

For another view try Graeme Thomson in Uncut: “Much of what she threw away is at least as good as – and often better than – what was released.” He thinks this box “rewrites the accepted narrative of her career.” Or Colin Irwin in Mojo: “much of the bonus material here adds a fascinating corollary to the Denny legacy.”

Who needs critics anyway?
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Yes, apologies for the erroneous credit. I wasn't denying that he gave it a very positive review but I think his observation about the relationship of the out takes is a good one and it convinced me that this is probably something I don't need. It is a little like the Beatles Anthology CDs. They were fascinating to listen to once, as documentary but I don't return to them. When I want to listen to the Beatles I go back to the original catalogue. With a music library as vast as mine, any new acquisition has to be something I will go back to. I would love to hear the unreleased material from this box but when the craving for a bit of Sandy comes along, it will be What We Did On Our Holidays, Fotheringay or Sandy that I will reach for and I already have those.
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Well, yes. I was using those three as examples. All the original albums obviously but I marginally prefer Sandy to NSG. I realise this is not the prevailing view.
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« Reply #111 on: October 31, 2010, 08:29:23 PM »


I marginally prefer Sandy to NSG. I realise this is not the prevailing view.


I'm still surprised at this.  I too always thought Sandy was 'the one' and, maybe out of ignorance filtered through arrogance, thought everyone else agreed with me.   Wink

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« Reply #112 on: November 03, 2010, 04:57:50 PM »

Lovely quote from Rachel Unthank in The Word: "Don't bother listening to her [Sandy] - you'll realise the rest of us are just wasting our time!"
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« Reply #113 on: November 05, 2010, 07:13:04 PM »

Lord Bateman is being played on BBC R3 World on 3 this evening from a Sampler - it says, called DENNYPROMO1.

From the web page on the BBC website it is listed last. As the quality on the iplayer for R3 has improved - up to 20kHz it seems, I won't stay up for it!!

I never realised that Sandy Denny was "world music" Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #114 on: November 05, 2010, 08:50:05 PM »

isnt all music world music?
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« Reply #115 on: November 05, 2010, 09:11:59 PM »


isnt all music world music?


No, some of it's out of this world.   Grin

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« Reply #116 on: November 05, 2010, 10:31:48 PM »

Does anyone know if the new box includes lyrics? - as did Who Knows but not Box of Treasures.

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« Reply #117 on: November 05, 2010, 11:10:20 PM »


Does anyone know if the new box includes lyrics? - as did Who Knows but not Box of Treasures.

Thanks
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Doh!
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« Reply #118 on: November 06, 2010, 10:07:32 AM »

Lord Baterman, as she sings, is absolute magic and quite a story Smiley

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« Reply #119 on: November 06, 2010, 11:51:52 AM »


Lord Baterman, as she sings, is absolute magic and quite a story Smiley




But there are 4 missing verses!!
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