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Hi, I am looking for a copy of Sandy Denny's book No more sad refrains, can anyone help please, thanks  |
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2010, 07:32:27 PM » |
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Hi, I am looking for a copy of Sandy Denny's book No more sad refrains, can anyone help please, thanks Yep, got mine, don't bother. Not very well written and does, IMHO a hatchett job on other members of Fairport Convention. And no, you can't have it!  |
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2010, 07:33:28 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2010, 07:45:42 PM » |
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Clinton Helyin.
Helter Skelter Publisjing, London.
(Paperback Edition 2001)
ISBN 1-900924=35=8
The best thing about it is the photo on the front cover.
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2010, 08:11:15 PM » |
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2010, 08:16:16 PM » |
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Shudder! £13.99 from Waterstones in Wolves about 7 years ago. Still stand by what I said tho' |
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2010, 08:29:01 PM » |
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Clinton Helyin.
Helter Skelter Publisjing, London.
(Paperback Edition 2001)
ISBN 1-900924=35=8
The best thing about it is the photo on the front cover.
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2010, 11:23:53 PM » |
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I realise that this book is generally regarded as being poor, but in the absence of any other substantial biography of Sandy surely it has a place in a fan's library, the reader should be able to make their mind up on the evidence presented to them. I would be interested in any specific criticisms of the volume in question.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2010, 12:05:45 AM » |
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Should you be able to find it somewhere, "No Thought Of Leaving: A Life of Sandy Denny" by Pamela Murray Winters, is an unpublished alternative to the book mentioned here and well worth a read.
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2010, 01:05:36 AM » |
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I realise that this book is generally regarded as being poor, but in the absence of any other substantial biography of Sandy surely it has a place in a fan's library, the reader should be able to make their mind up on the evidence presented to them. I would be interested in any specific criticisms of the volume in question.
It does not do justice to the important role that Ms Dyble played in the formation of Fairport. Sorry Jude, but I had to say that. |
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2010, 07:46:30 AM » |
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I have a copy I might consider selling, but the flyleaf is inscribed.
PM me if you're interested.
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2010, 08:55:05 AM » |
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Despite reading the warnings and reservations of others here I'd still like to read this book. Been after it for a couple of years now and it's always for sale at silly prices.  Heylin's an odd cove. He writes some essential rock reference books (especially on Dylan), but he seems to have an unpleasant side to him. Jules |
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2010, 09:21:50 AM » |
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I have a copy of this which I read over a sunny Cropredy weekend when it first came out. It is possible that my knowledge of the history of Fairport was not as extensive then as it is now so I may have been ignorant of any perceived slights but I enjoyed the book. There may have been some factual innacuracies concerning the band's origins but I have no memory of taking exception to the portrayal of individual band members. Perhaps I was naive.
This is probably heresy but I preferred it to Patrick Humphries' Meet On the Ledge which I found frustratingly lightweight and short on detail.
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2010, 10:35:04 AM » |
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I preferred it to Patrick Humphries' Meet On the Ledge which I found frustratingly lightweight and short on detail.
Well, yes, it is. Jules |
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2010, 10:35:16 AM » |
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I realise that this book is generally regarded as being poor, but in the absence of any other substantial biography of Sandy surely it has a place in a fan's library, the reader should be able to make their mind up on the evidence presented to them.[ .....]
I agree. I doubt that we can look forward to yet another biography on Sandy so I will have to settle with this one. Unless a fatter and more thorough biography than "Meet On The Ledge" on the whole band Fairport Convention would be published. I must say that I´ve enjoyed all biographical efforts on the band (MOTL, TWE) and its members (SD,RT,AH) but I wouldn´t mind a new, more thorough and "complete" biography on the band. |
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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2010, 12:26:29 PM » |
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I realise that this book is generally regarded as being poor, but in the absence of any other substantial biography of Sandy surely it has a place in a fan's library, the reader should be able to make their mind up on the evidence presented to them. I would be interested in any specific criticisms of the volume in question.
It does not do justice to the important role that Ms Dyble played in the formation of Fairport. Sorry Jude, but I had to say that. I read the book many years ago with mixed feelings, but you can hardly criticise the writer for not including something about FC when Sandy wasnt actually in it, if the book is meant to chronicle her life. That is not intended to belittle Jude's contribution in any way, or anyone elses. |
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2010, 12:45:37 PM » |
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I realise that this book is generally regarded as being poor, but in the absence of any other substantial biography of Sandy surely it has a place in a fan's library, the reader should be able to make their mind up on the evidence presented to them. I would be interested in any specific criticisms of the volume in question.
It does not do justice to the important role that Ms Dyble played in the formation of Fairport. Sorry Jude, but I had to say that. I read the book many years ago with mixed feelings, but you can hardly criticise the writer for not including something about FC when Sandy wasnt actually in it, if the book is meant to chronicle her life. That is not intended to belittle Jude's contribution in any way, or anyone elses. Totally agree, but there was no need for him to be quite so scathing about my time with FC and indeed the quotations attributed in that section were very pointed and unnecessary. And were possibly inaccurate. There's 'warts and all' and there's 'I can say this because the people I'm saying it about are dead and can't refute it' Just saying..  |
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2010, 02:50:16 PM » |
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I realise that this book is generally regarded as being poor, but in the absence of any other substantial biography of Sandy surely it has a place in a fan's library, the reader should be able to make their mind up on the evidence presented to them. I would be interested in any specific criticisms of the volume in question.
It does not do justice to the important role that Ms Dyble played in the formation of Fairport. Sorry Jude, but I had to say that. I read the book many years ago with mixed feelings, but you can hardly criticise the writer for not including something about FC when Sandy wasnt actually in it, if the book is meant to chronicle her life. That is not intended to belittle Jude's contribution in any way, or anyone elses. Totally agree, but there was no need for him to be quite so scathing about my time with FC and indeed the quotations attributed in that section were very pointed and unnecessary. And were possibly inaccurate. There's 'warts and all' and there's 'I can say this because the people I'm saying it about are dead and can't refute it' Just saying.. As I read it so long ago, I dont recall what was actually said on that topic, hopefully no offence caused (by me) but no justifiable reason for the author to be so nasty. |
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2010, 03:15:02 PM » |
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As I read it so long ago, I dont recall what was actually said on that topic, hopefully no offence caused (by me) but no justifiable reason for the author to be so nasty.
Heylin doesn't need much in the way of justification. He begins most of his books by slagging off other writers! Jules |
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2010, 10:32:09 PM » |
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I've mentioned it before and it doesn't mean that the story as a whole is flawed, but the fact that the writer tells us that Fairport performed drummerless in Europe between Dave Mattacks leaving and Bruce Rowland joining at least hints at a lack of detail and research
I've seen them then and Paul Warren was surely drumming at the gig I attended
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