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« on: February 14, 2011, 09:57:03 AM »

In todays Daily Mail there is a question in the "Answers to correspondents" column.

Is there a true story behind the folk ballad Matty Groves, made  famous by Joan Baez & Fairport Convention?
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2011, 10:06:22 AM »

The Daily Mail and 'true story' in the same sentence?Huh? Shocked
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2011, 10:26:11 AM »

According to the Daily Mail Matty Groves (formerly Matthias Grovinski) was a good for nothing asylum seeker, and Lady Donald was a coke sniffing aristo who had been rumoured to have had many lesbian affairs in her younger days. Lord Donald was in disgrace because of an expenses scandal at the House of Lords, where he had claimed groats that he was not entitled to. In the far cornfields they were growing genetically modified wheat.
The whole business of the "sword culture" was a sign of Broken Britain.
What's more, the bins hadn't been emptied for a fortnight.  Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2011, 10:27:30 AM »

Hang the lot of them.
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2011, 10:29:49 AM »



I remember reading about Nic Jones' take on the song and how the earliest known version dates back to 1650-ish (Child Ballad 81)

I doubt if it would be possible to find the real characters, more likely it's a tale made up of several events.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2011, 10:31:24 AM »


Hang the lot of them.


None of the characters behave in a commendable fashion, that's true.  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2011, 11:04:27 AM »


According to the Daily Mail Matty Groves (formerly Matthias Grovinski) was a good for nothing asylum seeker, and Lady Donald was a coke sniffing aristo who had been rumoured to have had many lesbian affairs in her younger days. Lord Donald was in disgrace because of an expenses scandal at the House of Lords, where he had claimed groats that he was not entitled to. In the far cornfields they were growing genetically modified wheat.
The whole business of the "sword culture" was a sign of Broken Britain.
What's more, the bins hadn't been emptied for a fortnight.  Cheesy


Methinks we have a serial murderer on our hands. Our Irish correspondent Christy Moore reports of a Little Musgrave meeting his end in an identical manner. Call for John Nettles, Morse and Patrick Glennister
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2011, 11:10:53 AM »

Patrick Glennister ? His brother Philip surely  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2011, 11:43:51 AM »


According to the Daily Mail Matty Groves (formerly Matthias Grovinski) was a good for nothing asylum seeker, and Lady Donald was a coke sniffing aristo who had been rumoured to have had many lesbian affairs in her younger days. Lord Donald was in disgrace because of an expenses scandal at the House of Lords, where he had claimed groats that he was not entitled to. In the far cornfields they were growing genetically modified wheat.
The whole business of the "sword culture" was a sign of Broken Britain.
What's more, the bins hadn't been emptied for a fortnight.  Cheesy


thats one of the funniest things I have read for ages, I don't buy the daily wail anymore.
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2011, 12:06:55 PM »



According to the Daily Mail Matty Groves (formerly Matthias Grovinski) was a good for nothing asylum seeker, and Lady Donald was a coke sniffing aristo who had been rumoured to have had many lesbian affairs in her younger days. Lord Donald was in disgrace because of an expenses scandal at the House of Lords, where he had claimed groats that he was not entitled to. In the far cornfields they were growing genetically modified wheat.
The whole business of the "sword culture" was a sign of Broken Britain.
What's more, the bins hadn't been emptied for a fortnight.  Cheesy


thats one of the funniest things I have read for ages, I don't buy the daily wail anymore.


You mean you used to buy it?
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2011, 12:07:52 PM »

maybe I will just take my camera out onto the streets of Westminster for this year's Matty Movie at Crops!
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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2011, 12:12:27 PM »




According to the Daily Mail Matty Groves (formerly Matthias Grovinski) was a good for nothing asylum seeker, and Lady Donald was a coke sniffing aristo who had been rumoured to have had many lesbian affairs in her younger days. Lord Donald was in disgrace because of an expenses scandal at the House of Lords, where he had claimed groats that he was not entitled to. In the far cornfields they were growing genetically modified wheat.
The whole business of the "sword culture" was a sign of Broken Britain.
What's more, the bins hadn't been emptied for a fortnight.  Cheesy


thats one of the funniest things I have read for ages, I don't buy the daily wail anymore.


You mean you used to buy it?


sadly Nick yes, when I was commuting to london, it always had print trade jobs in on a thursday.
i have been so much happier since I stopped commuting buying the mail
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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2011, 01:22:59 PM »

"Get your knickers on Polly, we've got another case to crack. This one's back in the 16th century, so no more chuffing New Romantics or Bowie soundtrack to put up with.
Apparently some lardy-da lord-type has got the hump when he found his missus engaged in rumpy-pumpy with one of the peasants and done 'em both in. He claims it was in self-defence, as this Grovesy geezer has struck the very first blow....."

Call the commissioning editor at the Beeb - I think I'm onto something.....
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2011, 01:25:28 PM »


Get your knickers on Polly


That would be Bolly, no?

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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2011, 01:26:40 PM »

But Polly much more in keeping with the folk genre
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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2011, 01:58:34 PM »


But Polly much more in keeping with the folk genre


Ah, yes, fine.  Carry on!

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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2011, 03:50:58 PM »

Carry on?  Hmm...

"Carry On Up The FarCorn Fields"? (say it quickly...)

Jim Dale as Matty, Hatty Jacques as Lady Darnell, Sid James - his Lordship, Babs Windsor as the servant.  Kenneth Connor as the gospel preacher.

Soundtrack: Trad arr. Rambling Syd Rumpo

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Carry on?  Hmm...

"Carry On Up The FarCorn Fields"? (say it quickly...)

Jim Dale as Matty, Hatty Jacques as Lady Darnell, Sid James - his Lordship, Babs Windsor as the servant.  Kenneth Connor as the gospel preacher.

Soundtrack: Trad arr. Rambling Syd Rumpo


Ooh, I say!!   Embarrassed

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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2011, 04:37:58 PM »



Carry on?  Hmm...

"Carry On Up The FarCorn Fields"? (say it quickly...)

Jim Dale as Matty, Hatty Jacques as Lady Darnell, Sid James - his Lordship, Babs Windsor as the servant.  Kenneth Connor as the gospel preacher.

Soundtrack: Trad arr. Rambling Syd Rumpo


Ooh, I say!!   Embarrassed


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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2011, 07:34:38 PM »


Carry on?  Hmm...

"Carry On Up The FarCorn Fields"? (say it quickly...)

Jim Dale as Matty, Hatty Jacques as Lady Darnell, Sid James - his Lordship, Babs Windsor as the servant.  Kenneth Connor as the gospel preacher.

Soundtrack: Trad arr. Rambling Syd Rumpo




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