Albion Band Lives yet again!

[David W]

When will Blair step out from under the shadow of his dad, or will he ride his coat tails forever?

That doesn't seem a very nice thing to say - who knows how their relationship works.

DW

[hendo (Dave)]

Just call them the New Albion Band and get on with it.

I agree andy and said it earlier in the thread

[hendo (Dave)]

Crikey. It's only rock n roll for gawd's sake.

I am because I think I am............ I think.
Can you have half a hole?
What happens if you get to the end of infinity?
Why does anyone care what a 'new' band is called?

[Peter H-K]

I am because I think I am............ I think.

The beauty of Descartes' famous claim, though, is that even your thinking that you're not proves that you are!

Can you have half a hole?

No. Though you can have one hole half the size of another.

What happens if you get to the end of infinity?

No "if" about it; you can't!

Why does anyone care what a 'new' band is called?

I don't know, but apparently they do, to judge by the current thread. And I don't think it's so much a worry about what they're called, as about what they're claiming to be.

Sorry, I promise I'll shut up now, before you all come round with the hemlock!

[NeilMcLaughlin]

I am because I think I am............ I think.

The beauty of Descartes' famous claim, though, is that even your thinking that you're not proves that you are!

Can you have half a hole?

No. Though you can have one hole half the size of another.

--Well, you can't have a whole without hole, so how could you have half without a whole hole in the word whole?  And why do they call doughnut holes doughnut holes when they are clearly doughnut solids?

What happens if you get to the end of infinity?

No "if" about it; you can't!

--Unless, of course, the end and the beginning of infinity are the same and all of time is really one long chain of now that we
are just to narrow to perceive.

Why does anyone care what a 'new' band is called?

I don't know, but apparently they do, to judge by the current thread. And I don't think it's so much a worry about what they're called, as about what they're claiming to be.

--We use old names for new people all the time, but apparently it does raise some people's ire when one does that with a band.  As I noted earlier, if Rainbow Chasers is the best Ashley can come up with, and if his son isn't any better at coming up with band names, I'd rather they
just keep a decent band name and get on with making decent music.  Better than calling themselves Toenail Clippers or Nose Pickers, I reckon.

Sorry, I promise I'll shut up now, before you all come round with the hemlock!

As I said before, this is quite entertaining.  Hopefully, the (new) Albion band will be at least as nice a diversion.

[jaypeter (Peter)]

Sorry, I promise I'll shut up now, before you all come round with the hemlock!

Well the last thing I expected was somebody comparing himself with Socrates, but I suppose you're the nearest thing we've got.

[fstix (Michael)]

"now i'm getting older
And I find I've lost me pace,
My son who knows the figures
Will step in to take me place"
Ashley Hutchings, "Mr Trills Song" via Mr Fox and Grandson Of Morris On.

And so it came to pass.  Clearly Ashley's happy about it or it wouldn't have happened.  The folk process in action, really.

Also, what with the film and solo work, this is only part of Blair's activities anyway.  So no need for the impertinent, personal and probably jealous remarks occasionally surfacing here - by which I'm not referring to those expressing genuine concern in a mature fashion...

[Peter H-K]

Sorry, I promise I'll shut up now, before you all come round with the hemlock!

Well the last thing I expected was somebody comparing himself with Socrates, but I suppose you're the nearest thing we've got.

Still a VERY long way off, though!!

[StephenGiles]

When will Blair step out from under the shadow of his dad, or will he ride his coat tails forever?

That doesn't seem a very nice thing to say - who knows how their relationship works.

DW

No, it's a horrible thing to say.

Blair on his own:
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DLNi6yn3D2mc&h=FAQBPhwF2

I haven't posted here for quite a while but nothing changes - same negative thinking from all the usual suspects. I look forward to seeing The Albion Band and so should you.

[Ollie]

When will Blair step out from under the shadow of his dad, or will he ride his coat tails forever?

That doesn't seem a very nice thing to say - who knows how their relationship works.

DW

No, it's a horrible thing to say.

Blair on his own:
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DLNi6yn3D2mc&h=FAQBPhwF2

I agree entirely. This was, other than Nic singing himself, my highlight of that gig. Blair was so much better when he didn't have his Dad playing along with him. He's a very good guitarist, he's got a great voice and he's not bad looking either. He also happens to be doing a similar thing to his Dad. So?

I think some people need to get off their high horses and just enjoy the music (man ).

[fstix (Michael)]

And perhaps even go so far as to appreciate the fact you can see an Albion Band live at all!  Not one single line-up has ever made it to the southern hemisphere (though that *may* change with this one...)

So be grateful, that's all.

[hendo (Dave)]

I am because I think I am............ I think.

The beauty of Descartes' famous claim, though, is that even your thinking that you're not proves that you are!

Can you have half a hole?

No. Though you can have one hole half the size of another.

What happens if you get to the end of infinity?

No "if" about it; you can't!

Why does anyone care what a 'new' band is called?

I don't know, but apparently they do, to judge by the current thread. And I don't think it's so much a worry about what they're called, as about what they're claiming to be.

Sorry, I promise I'll shut up now, before you all come round with the hemlock!

Ah Hemlock.What a band they were. All children of the original members of Hemlock. Very derivative of Gryphon

[Chris]

If the music's good, does it really matter what the band's moniker is?

[MikeB (Mike)]

If the music's good, does it really matter what the band's moniker is?

Nail. Head. Sorted.

[Albie]

I would think the name is only really a problem if there is intent to mislead, and that isn't the case here.
Anyone who is interested in the Albion Band will know what they are getting, and anyone who isn't interested won't go anyway. Or if they get dragged along to a gig by a friend, they will just enjoy it or not purely on the merits of the gig itself.

[Dave.P]

I would think the name is only really a problem if there is intent to mislead, and that isn't the case here.
Anyone who is interested in the Albion Band will know what they are getting, and anyone who isn't interested won't go anyway. Or if they get dragged along to a gig by a friend, they will just enjoy it or not purely on the merits of the gig itself.

As Fairport followers we are used to different configurations of a band and although we discuss the merits and skills of these different incarnations we understand that it is still Fairport...  

Indeeed I would humbly suggest that no other band has had so many changes in line up in a long existance

Why should it be any different for Albion Band??? What we need to be doing is looking to a new mix of music in the same tradition and taking  the opportunity to reflect and rejoice in the talants that are brought together and the way that  blend changes

Good luck to Blair , Ashley and other band members old new and yet to be unveiled

Dave P

[jaypeter (Peter)]

Good luck to Blair , Ashley and other band members old new and yet to be unveiled

Agreed, but, pace Mr Angry, the situation is unusual, and I think it's only fair for it to be discussed, in a discussion forum.

[GubGub (Al)]

Good luck to Blair , Ashley and other band members old new and yet to be unveiled

Agreed, but, pace Mr Angry, the situation is unusual, and I think it's only fair for it to be discussed, in a discussion forum.

And therein lies the point. I don't think anyone is angry, just a bit surprised that there should be a new line up of the Albion Band with no physical link to any previous incarnation. I think it looks like a great line up and I look forward to hearing them. I just have trouble thinking of them as the Albion Band. Now if they called themselves Sons of Albion (with all due respect to Katriona), that would be great. But as others have said, what's in a name?

[Andy]

Whilst I understand the criticism of the opinions of  those who, like me, who don't approve of this as currently described, I'd just like to try and clarify why I think what I think.

1) Intent to mislead isn't the point, if a punter sees "The Albion Band" with no qualifiers, then they'd be entitled to see at least some previous members (see (2). Also, intentional or not, using a band's name after it becomes defunct leads to all kinds of interesting points. Even worse is when multiple ex-members creat multiple bands with the old name (such as Bucks Fizz) but at least we're avoiding that particular nightmare.

2) As to the "original member" point about Fairport incarnations that haven't included one, the point was always that there were some common members between one incarnation and the next

3) The LSO argument doesn't apply because they won't be advertising themselves as such, they advertise the music - although the Berlin Philharmonic, for instance, has a good rep, I'd still not go to their performance if they're playing a piece that I know I won't like, such as Stockhausen  - can't stand the blighter's music. Even then, I've never heard of an orchestra which completely changed personnel all in one go. So there's still some continuity.

Now I know that we can agree to disagree, so rather than abreacting to those who don't agree with you here, let's try and confine the arguments to non-personal statements about TAW'ers or indeed the New Albion Band's membership.

As I've said before, my simple solution is to prefix the band name with the word "New". It implies a succession, even similar musical style, but does not imply that any band members were in the Albion Band we saw last year.

[jaypeter (Peter)]

Good luck to Blair , Ashley and other band members old new and yet to be unveiled

Agreed, but, pace Mr Angry, the situation is unusual, and I think it's only fair for it to be discussed, in a discussion forum.

And therein lies the point. I don't think anyone is angry, just a bit surprised that there should be a new line up of the Albion Band with no physical link to any previous incarnation. I think it looks like a great line up and I look forward to hearing them. I just have trouble thinking of them as the Albion Band. Now if they called themselves Sons of Albion (with all due respect to Katriona), that would be great. But as others have said, what's in a name?

Sons of Albion is already taken mate. God knows what trouble that would cause, The Albion Band turn up with none of the same members playing completely different music. Actually till I looked it up I thought Sons of Albion was a slightly slow on the uptake terrorist organisation fighting against the Roman occupation.


While we're on the subj. , does anybody remember the Stretch/Fleetwood Mac affair? In the middle of a Mac meltdown, the only member willing and able to tour a set of US dates was Mick Fleetwood, so they recruited Stretch (one hit, the magnificent "Why did you do it?") to fill in for the brain-addled AOR combo. Unfortunately, Mick then dropped out as well, leaving the lads to an increasingly embarassing and protest-ridden progress round the Mid-west. Now that really was passing-off.