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« on: September 06, 2011, 01:54:46 PM »

Have Fairport ever played Restless (from RftM) at Cropredy (or anywhere else) post '75?
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2011, 01:57:14 PM »


Have Fairport ever played Restless (from RftM) at Cropredy (or anywhere else) post '75?


Can't answer the question off the top of my head but I believe the Cropredy Capers book contains a list of all the songs that Fairport had never played at Cropredy up to that point. It certainly hasn't been played since that was published.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2011, 02:28:33 PM »

Thanks, Al.  I've just had a major reassessment in the last hour.  I've always thought I didn't much like Rising for the Moon.  But there's some fab stuff on there.  I'm not sure it really has much cohesion or sounds like a 'proper band' but bloody hell, some of the songs...

As for RftM the track itself...I've just realised/remebered that I think what's put me off over the decades is not the song itself, but some of the artists who've covered it at Cropredy and elsewhere.  No names, no pack drill, but the original is not 'forced' at all...in fact Sandy sings it quite gently...and it certainly doesn't sound like a singing exercise.  Not sure if this makes any sense to anyone (or myself!)?
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2011, 02:35:44 PM »


Thanks, Al.  I've just had a major reassessment in the last hour.  I've always thought I didn't much like Rising for the Moon.  But there's some fab stuff on there.  I'm not sure it really has much cohesion or sounds like a 'proper band' but bloody hell, some of the songs...

As for RftM the track itself...I've just realised/remebered that I think what's put me off over the decades is not the song itself, but some of the artists who've covered it at Cropredy and elsewhere.  No names, no pack drill, but the original is not 'forced' at all...in fact Sandy sings it quite gently...and it certainly doesn't sound like a singing exercise.  Not sure if this makes any sense to anyone (or myself!)?


Not one of my favourite songs or albums in the FC repertoire but it is saved for me by Stranger To Himself and One More Chance. The latter is a transcendent piece in my book. The way Swarb's fiddle sweeps in with a little life enhancing major key melody at the end of all the minor key guitar pyrotechnics is just gorgeous.
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2011, 03:52:13 PM »


Not one of my favourite songs or albums in the FC repertoire but it is saved for me by Stranger To Himself and One More Chance. The latter is a transcendent piece in my book. The way Swarb's fiddle sweeps in with a little life enhancing major key melody at the end of all the minor key guitar pyrotechnics is just gorgeous.


It's the melody of the song part of One More Chance that nails me.  That's one sweet melancholy tune.

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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2011, 05:43:43 PM »



Not one of my favourite songs or albums in the FC repertoire but it is saved for me by Stranger To Himself and One More Chance. The latter is a transcendent piece in my book. The way Swarb's fiddle sweeps in with a little life enhancing major key melody at the end of all the minor key guitar pyrotechnics is just gorgeous.


It's the melody of the song part of One More Chance that nails me.  That's one sweet melancholy tune.

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Agreed. Its never really been one I go to that often, though the above mentioned songs sounded great the last time I listened to it. Plus I quite enjoy White Dress as well. Its interesting that the work Glynn John's did was so divisive amongst the band. Peggy on several interviews has expressed his admiration for the album-I believe its his favorite actually. On the other hand DM left during the making of it and Swarb had some choice words for Mr. Johns I seem to remember!
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2011, 05:56:11 PM »

TBH I couldn't tell you how any of the non Sandy vocal tracks go on this album apart from Night Time Girl.As it was her voice I got into first, I compiled all her stuff together missing out the male leads and instrumentals. The rest of the FC canon snuck up on me gradually, kick started by a pal buying me a 1988 Winter tour ticket for my birthday,then I heard Sloth at Cropredy 92.......
The bit that always gets me is when she sings 'chances' on Stranger.....
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2011, 06:02:13 PM »

If I told you I thought Trevor had the better material on both the major band albums they released together (Fotheringay and RftM) would you think I was a little bit odd?
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2011, 06:06:27 PM »


If I told you I thought Trevor had the better material on both the major band albums they released together (Fotheringay and RftM) would you think I was a little bit odd?


Yes. Explain yourself man!

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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2011, 06:08:46 PM »


Swarb had some choice words for Mr. Johns I seem to remember!


I'd love to know what they were!

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If I told you I thought Trevor had the better material on both the major band albums they released together (Fotheringay and RftM) would you think I was a little bit odd?


Yes!  I think his songs on Rising For The Moon are very poor.  I quite like his songs on Fotheringay, but Sandy's outclass him.  My favourite Trevor contributions are to be found on Rosie and Nine.

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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2011, 06:16:17 PM »


If I told you I thought Trevor had the better material on both the major band albums they released together (Fotheringay and RftM) would you think I was a little bit odd?


Only a little bit odd David!    Personally I've always liked the country - rock edge that Trevor sometimes brought to the band.  
The Plainsman is one of my favourite songs, period.
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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2011, 06:17:44 PM »

For what it's worth I think RftM is one of their best albums, and reminds me how good they were as a six piece. Seen live, this line-up was magnificent - with Mattacks or Rowland.
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If I told you I thought Trevor had the better material on both the major band albums they released together (Fotheringay and RftM) would you think I was a little bit odd?


Only a little bit odd David!    Personally I've always liked the country - rock edge that Trevor sometimes brought to the band.  
The Plainsman is one of my favourite songs, period.


It's the tune that's really strong though - which is traditional.
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2011, 06:23:59 PM »

That is true, but I really like the lyrics too.
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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2011, 06:28:41 PM »


That is true, but I really like the lyrics too.


I love it too.  Trevor's contributions to Rosie were great.

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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2011, 06:47:54 PM »

The Plainsman,Bring Em Down,Possibly Parsons Green all excellent.
The Way I Feel is awesome.(except at the moment I feel knackered.)
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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2011, 06:49:18 PM »


The Plainsman,Bring Em Down,Possibly Parsons Green all excellent.
The Way I Feel is awesome.(except at the moment I feel knackered.)


Yeah, I'd forgotten Possibly Parsons Green, thats another big favourite of mine.
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Swarb had some choice words for Mr. Johns I seem to remember!


I'd love to know what they were!

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At work so can't find the quote but will try to remember it later. Classic Swarb quote by my recollection! I'm inclined to agree regarding Trevor's songs. I think Restless is a strong song, but Iron Lion is pale compared to The Plainsman or Bring Em' Down IMHO.
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The Plainsman,Bring Em Down,Possibly Parsons Green all excellent.
The Way I Feel is awesome.(except at the moment I feel knackered.)


Yeah, I'd forgotten Possibly Parsons Green, thats another big favourite of mine.

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