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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2012, 10:36:46 AM » |
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I note that Rendezvous has had no references, probably quite rightly, given the arrangements, but for me the quality of Sandy's song-writing was never stronger, and Full Moon, added as a bonus track to later releases is a beautiful piece. It captures her approach to phrasing so well and the matching of her voice and the clarinet of Mr Bernard Stanley Bilk is perfection.
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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2012, 03:56:07 PM » |
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I note that Rendezvous has had no references, probably quite rightly, given the arrangements, but for me the quality of Sandy's song-writing was never stronger, and Full Moon, added as a bonus track to later releases is a beautiful piece. It captures her approach to phrasing so well and the matching of her voice and the clarinet of Mr Bernard Stanley Bilk is perfection.
I nearly put it joint runner- up with Rising for the Moon. Yes, it's overproduced, but 'All Our Days' is beautiful, to me, and the album gets as many plays chez moi as the other Sandy solo albums. |
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2012, 05:27:18 PM » |
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Me too re Rendezvous - I love some of the songwriting. Full Moon I think is one of the most amazing tracks ever - the whole arrangement. Rendezvous is almost like her best and worst solo album, all at once.
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« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2012, 04:08:35 PM » |
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And the results are...
10/ A boxful of treasures
9/ Rendezvous
8/ Rising for the moon
7/ The North star grassman and the ravens
6/ Fotheringay
5/ The best of the BBC sessions
4/ Sandy
3/ Unhalfbricking
2/ Like an old fashioned waltz
1/ Liege and lief (no surprise there then!)
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Sandy & Johnny
Gold dust : live at the Royalty.
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« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2012, 04:51:19 PM » |
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Gold dust : live at the Royalty.
That is just idiocy imho. I appreciate that it is controversial but it is by no means one to avoid. And I do wonder if all roads always have to lead to Liege & Lief? I doubt that Sandy would have regarded it as her own artistic highpoint, being much more a product of Ashley Hutchings' vision. |
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« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2012, 05:14:26 PM » |
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And I do wonder if all roads always have to lead to Liege & Lief?
Yes they do. 'Cos it's brilliant.  Jules |
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« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2012, 08:10:46 PM » |
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And I do wonder if all roads always have to lead to Liege & Lief? I doubt that Sandy would have regarded it as her own artistic highpoint, being much more a product of Ashley Hutchings' vision.
IMHO, it's the bell-like purity of her voice in recordings dating from 1968-1970 (Heyday, WWDOOH, UH, L&L, Fotheringay, "Battle of Evermore"). That's what hooked me and I assume a few others. Her maturation as a songwriter coincided with a slow but relentless degradation of her singing voice (again, IMHO). "After Halloween" and "I'm a Dreamer" are spectacular songs that are not as well-sung as "She Moves Through the Fair" and "Banks of the Nile." All my humble opinion...
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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2012, 08:44:04 PM » |
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IMHO, it's the bell-like purity of her voice in recordings dating from 1968-1970 (Heyday, WWDOOH, UH, L&L, Fotheringay, "Battle of Evermore"). That's what hooked me and I assume a few others. Her maturation as a songwriter coincided with a slow but relentless degradation of her singing voice (again, IMHO). "After Halloween" and "I'm a Dreamer" are spectacular songs that are not as well-sung as "She Moves Through the Fair" and "Banks of the Nile." All my humble opinion...
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« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2012, 09:22:52 PM » |
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And I do wonder if all roads always have to lead to Liege & Lief? I doubt that Sandy would have regarded it as her own artistic highpoint, being much more a product of Ashley Hutchings' vision.
IMHO, it's the bell-like purity of her voice in recordings dating from 1968-1970 (Heyday, WWDOOH, UH, L&L, Fotheringay, "Battle of Evermore"). That's what hooked me and I assume a few others. Her maturation as a songwriter coincided with a slow but relentless degradation of her singing voice (again, IMHO). "After Halloween" and "I'm a Dreamer" are spectacular songs that are not as well-sung as "She Moves Through the Fair" and "Banks of the Nile." All my humble opinion...
You may have nailed why I prefer Sandy post Fairport (or at least post 1969) and equally why with the exception of WIDOMH I prefer Fairport post Sandy. I am not keen on pure voices. I prefer a more fractured, less perfect vocal sound. By the same token and by way of illustration I hold Joan Baez to have been a much better singer since the mid 70s when she developed some smoke & grit in her voice than she was in the 60s. |
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« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2012, 10:17:34 PM » |
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These are all very good points, and I certainly don't dismiss any of them. But Liege & Lief is still a landmark work of staggering collective genius, and there's simply no getting round that! Jules |
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« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2012, 10:24:32 PM » |
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But Liege & Lief is still a landmark work of staggering collective genius
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« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2012, 10:29:26 PM » |
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But Liege & Lief is still a landmark work of staggering collective genius
And my 6th or 7th favourite Fairport album! Heretic! Jules |
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« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2012, 09:31:59 AM » |
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Avoid...
Gold dust : live at the Royalty.
That is just idiocy imho. I appreciate that it is controversial but it is by no means one to avoid. And I do wonder if all roads always have to lead to Liege & Lief? I doubt that Sandy would have regarded it as her own artistic highpoint, being much more a product of Ashley Hutchings' vision. Agree with both statements. Avoid the Royalty Concert Cd? Why not just shoot yerself or give up on music? I always feel a bit let down by LandL, apart from the odd track. |
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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2012, 01:37:02 PM » |
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I suppose we can’t cite the humungous Box Set as #1 as that’s cheating …. so, for me:
1. Fotheringay – at her very best; ‘Banks of the Nile’ must be one of the best pieces of this genre of music to be ever recorded
2. All Our Own Work – for no other reason that it contains probably the best version of ‘Who Knows Where The Time Goes’, although close are the versions broadcast on 4 February 1969 on ‘Symonds on Sunday’, or the outtake on the bootleg ‘Unhalfbricking Sessions’
3. Unhalfbricking – because of ‘A Sailor’s Life’ that was that mutation that led to the classic ‘Liege and Lief’
4. Sandy – easily the best of her solo albums
5. Rising for the Moon – very underrated and represents her second term with Fairport.
Many may disagree, but that’s my best shot ….
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« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2012, 02:39:09 PM » |
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Anybody subscribe to Mojo? They must have published their version of this list by now.
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« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2012, 03:55:30 PM » |
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Anybody subscribe to Mojo? They must have published their version of this list by now.
Jules
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« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2012, 05:09:03 PM » |
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The Mojo Top Ten is:
10. Boxful Of Treasures
9. Rendezvous
8. Rising For The Moon
7. Northstar Grassman And The Ravens
6. Fotheringay
5. Best Of the BBC Recordings
4. Sandy
3. Unhalfbricking
2. Like An Old Fashioned Waltz
1. Liege & Lief
It says to avoid:
19 Rupert St
Sandy & Johnny
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« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2012, 05:11:03 PM » |
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Yes they have. As per Martin F's post of April 20 and my slightly indignant response.
Doh! Sorry, that slipped me by. Jules |
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« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2012, 05:12:23 PM » |
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2. Like An Old Fashioned Waltz
1. Liege & Lief
...Waltz at #2 really surprises me. Precious few folks that I know (my pal Nick aside) put it up there with the best of Sandy. Jules |
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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2012, 09:49:38 PM » |
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2. Like An Old Fashioned Waltz
1. Liege & Lief
...Waltz at #2 really surprises me. Precious few folks that I know (my pal Nick aside) put it up there with the best of Sandy. Jules Very surprising, I can't see how anyone could rate Waltz above Sandy or Northstar. |
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