RIP- musicians

[Jim]

Just heard it on the news.
Wasn't it Dave who had all the health problems?
RIP  Chas.

[Jules Gray]

Just heard it on the news.
Wasn't it Dave who had all the health problems?
RIP  Chas.

In recent times it was Chas, with cancer.  Top bloke, top musician, great working class songwriter and entertainer.  I feel quite choked up.

Jules

[Glen S]

Aaaw...Sad news...

A respected musicians musician...I once read his autobiography which was fascinating...His CV a real who's who of talent...Backing Gene Vincent and Jerry Lee Lewis...He was even in a band with a very young Ritchie Blackmore, and of course Head Hands & Feet with the great Albert Lee...

[Lubiloo (Lorna)]

So sad! Saw him in Ludlow in 2009ish with my sister. Dave’s wife had just died so he was on his own...well with a different guitarist.

Such an amazing raconteur with so many stories about great rock ‘n’ rollers with whom he’d worked. And, it goes without saying, a wonderful musician and writer.

[davidmjs]

Remember him like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aIft448lBA

[Jules Gray]

Remember him like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aIft448lBA

I didn't recognise Albert Lee.

Jules

[Chris from Fieldtown]

Remember him like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aIft448lBA

I didn't recognise Albert Lee.

Jules

Nor me but then those licks emerged and it was clear who was picking that guitar. He must have made more money from one Chas and Dave hit than all his other music adventures put together (which is a slightly sad reflection on his talent) but fair play to him that he found a way to make his music earn him a very good livin.

[Jules Gray]

He must have made more money from one Chas and Dave hit than all his other music adventures put together (which is a slightly sad reflection on his talent) but fair play to him that he found a way to make his music earn him a very good livin.

I can't agree with this.  Chas & Dave made some terrific records.  It's a bit niche for some people, but I always thought they were great.  There Ain't No Pleasing You, for example, is a fine song.

Jules

[Andy]

They built their own niche and filled it with happy songs (mostly).

[Jim]

Chas and Dave got a right slagging after their Cropredy appearance. There wasn't much love evident then.

[StephenB]

That's the thing about Cropredy (and maybe other festivals as well) - it's not just about the standard of the music, it's the rapport with the audience as well. I think that's where they failed on that occasion (as have several others over the years.

[davidmjs]

This is a good piece, especially the last para:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/sep/22/chas-hodges-an-appreciation-chas-and-dave

"There was never anyone quite like Chas Hodges. There never will be again. And whether or not you actually like Chas and Dave, to lose someone who made music so tied to its place is a shame. He was one of the most significant English folk musicians, because he sang about the working classes of the city – the voices the folk revivalists often ignored – and that’s how he should be remembered."

[Malcolm]

A Chas'n'Dave knees-up here with Lonnie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qSKAYgtAzo

[hendo (Dave)]

Chas and Dave got a right slagging after their Cropredy appearance. There wasn't much love evident then.

At the risk of going off the point......
I think that was the issue with several named acts who came to Cropredy in later years, they didn't understand Cropredy. The rapport between performer and audience. So sadly, like Madness, Chas n Dave were one of those acts who dialled it in.
Doesn't stop him being an excellent musician and songwriter and the death of someone you have grown up with reinforces your own mortality, I was just never in to ' professional cockney!', or the ' remember the war Albums' You could argue , that the music hall song was the folk music that Sharp never collected.
I did love Heads ,Hands and Feet though.

[Lubiloo (Lorna)]

Chas and Dave got a right slagging after their Cropredy appearance. There wasn't much love evident then.

At the risk of going off the point......
I think that was the issue with several named acts who came to Cropredy in later years, they didn't understand Cropredy. The rapport between performer and audience. So sadly, like Madness, Chas n Dave were one of those acts who dialled it in.
Doesn't stop him being an excellent musician and songwriter and the death of someone you have grown up with reinforces your own mortality, I was just never in to ' professional cockney!', or the ' remember the war Albums' You could argue , that the music hall song was the folk music that Sharp never collected.
I did love Heads ,Hands and Feet though.

Also, some acts are just better suited to smaller venues and maybe they came into that category.

[GubGub (Al)]

He must have made more money from one Chas and Dave hit than all his other music adventures put together (which is a slightly sad reflection on his talent) but fair play to him that he found a way to make his music earn him a very good livin.

I can't agree with this.  Chas & Dave made some terrific records.  It's a bit niche for some people, but I always thought they were great.  There Ain't No Pleasing You, for example, is a fine song.

Jules

I do love that song and I am told that their early records are excellent before they went down the slightly more novelty song route that secured their success.

[Jules Gray]

This is a good piece, especially the last para:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/sep/22/chas-hodges-an-appreciation-chas-and-dave

"There was never anyone quite like Chas Hodges. There never will be again. And whether or not you actually like Chas and Dave, to lose someone who made music so tied to its place is a shame. He was one of the most significant English folk musicians, because he sang about the working classes of the city – the voices the folk revivalists often ignored – and that’s how he should be remembered."

Amen to that.

Jules

[StephenB]

' You could argue , that the music hall song was the folk music that Sharp never collected.

As an aside on that point, Lankum draw very heavily from that very genre (especially in the Irish/Anglo-Irish context), and have a fascination with that subject, of how the music hall song was actually a folk music of the masses. They gave a fascinating and insightful pub workshop on the subject at the Bury Big Whistle festival last year

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G9ivkRyOEJs

[Jules Gray]

I do love that song and I am told that their early records are excellent before they went down the slightly more novelty song route that secured their success.

You were told right.  Try this one on for size:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTGNhXSkrZs

Jules

[Glen S]

I do love that song and I am told that their early records are excellent before they went down the slightly more novelty song route that secured their success.

You were told right.  Try this one on for size:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTGNhXSkrZs

Jules

"Sold baked taters...in day old papers...for a penny"

What a lovely song...I'd not heard it before...