Fairport in 'Prog' magazine

[Darren_j]

What on earth have Fairport got to do with prog?

Jules

I think the reason is not because of the music (as they are very, very different) but simply because of the large overlap in audience demographic for each genre.

[PaulT]

That's a very good point - I used to see the same faces regularly at gigs on Merseyside - FC, Hawkwind, G*ng, Steeleye, Can....

[jude]

I would like to ask if anyone on the board bought the 'Genesis' issue of Classic Rock Presents Prog (now called Prog Mag I believe...).

If so could you pm me as I have a favour to ask  

Ta

[Hurricane (Dan)]

What on earth have Fairport got to do with prog?

Jules

Don't get hung up on the word 'prog'. It means nothing. It never has.

Martin, totally agree. As Lemmy says, there's only two types of music: music you like,  and music you don't like.

[Andy]

Er, it's called "Prog" magazine. So presumably they think there's only two types of music: prog and not prog.

[jude]

Er, it's called "Prog" magazine. So presumably they think there's only two types of music: prog and not prog.

yes well, it's a less clunky title than Classic Rock Presents Prog and it is the 'Prog' arm of Classic Rock so I don't have a problem with it.

[Mr Cat (Lewis)]

Er, it's called "Prog" magazine. So presumably they think there's only two types of music: prog and not prog.

Possibly, but it seems that "prog" now encompasses vast swathes of the musical landscape so you are just as likely to find an article on Danny Thompson or Tesseract as you are to read about BJH or Yes..

[Andy]

Er, it's called "Prog" magazine. So presumably they think there's only two types of music: prog and not prog.

Possibly, but it seems that "prog" now encompasses vast swathes of the musical landscape so you are just as likely to find an article on Danny Thompson or Tesseract as you are to read about BJH or Yes..

My remark was a riposte to this:

 there's only two types of music: music you like,  and music you don't like.

and was largely in jest.

[Mr Cat (Lewis)]

Er, it's called "Prog" magazine. So presumably they think there's only two types of music: prog and not prog.

Possibly, but it seems that "prog" now encompasses vast swathes of the musical landscape so you are just as likely to find an article on Danny Thompson or Tesseract as you are to read about BJH or Yes..

My remark was a riposte to this:

 there's only two types of music: music you like,  and music you don't like.

My reply was half in jest!

and was largely in jest.

[Alan2]

I had lunch with Jo Kendall the deputy editor at Classic Rock Presents Prog yesterday, they are happy to include FC in the magazine because they have been innovative throughout their career, especially in the early days.

Quite. I've always felt progressive to be a very broad church indeed, at least in its original sense. Used now, it's a more restrictive term, but back in the day, Fairport were indeed prog, as were ISB, Steeleye etc.

By the way, this is the first 'what is Prog' discussion I've seen outside of Progressive Ears forum, which i used to frequent. You/we are to be congratulated.  

[PLW (Peter)]

In the late 60s/early 70s everything "non-commercial" was defined as "progressive". "Prog rock" as a retrospective term of abuse came much later.

Fairport, Steeleye, Trees, ISB, etc would never have been put in the folk section in a record shop. Much more likely to be found alongside Cream, Jefferson Airplane, King Crimson, Pink Floyd etc. If you look at the album covers and the "look" of those bands at that time, they were absolutely embedded in the progreesive rock scene.

[Alan2]

In the late 60s/early 70s everything "non-commercial" was defined as "progressive". "Prog rock" as a retrospective term of abuse came much later.

Fairport, Steeleye, Trees, ISB, etc would never have been put in the folk section in a record shop. Much more likely to be found alongside Cream, Jefferson Airplane, King Crimson, Pink Floyd etc. If you look at the album covers and the "look" of those bands at that time, they were absolutely embedded in the progreesive rock scene.

Presactly.  

[Peter H-K]

In the late 60s/early 70s everything "non-commercial" was defined as "progressive". "Prog rock" as a retrospective term of abuse came much later.

Fairport, Steeleye, Trees, ISB, etc would never have been put in the folk section in a record shop. Much more likely to be found alongside Cream, Jefferson Airplane, King Crimson, Pink Floyd etc. If you look at the album covers and the "look" of those bands at that time, they were absolutely embedded in the progreesive rock scene.

I distinctly remember that when I first started seriously buying albums (81/82), my local record shops certainly never had Fairport in the folk section. They were always in rock. I remember being quite surprised when they disappeared, and I found them again under folk (couldn't tell you when that was, though).

[davidmjs]

In the late 60s/early 70s everything "non-commercial" was defined as "progressive". "Prog rock" as a retrospective term of abuse came much later.

Fairport, Steeleye, Trees, ISB, etc would never have been put in the folk section in a record shop. Much more likely to be found alongside Cream, Jefferson Airplane, King Crimson, Pink Floyd etc. If you look at the album covers and the "look" of those bands at that time, they were absolutely embedded in the progreesive rock scene.

I distinctly remember that when I first started seriously buying albums (81/82), my local record shops certainly never had Fairport in the folk section. They were always in rock. I remember being quite surprised when they disappeared, and I found them again under folk (couldn't tell you when that was, though).

Probably in 1985, when they stopped being 'folk'.  

[John From Austin]

When I was a young whippersnapper in the mid '70s, Fairport was a limited presence on Merkin rock radio.  However, I did hear Tam Lin and Matty on mainstream rock stations, right alongside Pink Floyd, Yes and Jethro Tull at the height of their popularity.  Earlier in the decade, Mrs. John From Austin heard Sandy's solo stuff on college radio, alongside Joni Mitchell, Carole King and Gordon Lightfoot.

[Gouty (Gary)]

When I was a young whippersnapper in the mid '70s, Fairport was a limited presence on Merkin rock radio.

Did you - snigger - 'wig' out, man?