Martyn H
I did have a go with a Jackie
Full Member
 Offline
Posts: 118
Loc: West Yorkshire
|
 |
« Reply #340 on: August 25, 2013, 02:40:15 PM » |
|
Haha, he's got the grumpy old sod down to a fine art on bookface! Think he's offering to do (historically corrected) column notes on copies now!  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Sir Martin
|
|
« Reply #341 on: August 25, 2013, 06:52:58 PM » |
|
I've also just conducted an interview with Nigel Schofield on the book. It might put a few aspects of the book into perspective.
Good work, splendid read. It certainly does answer a few points raised both here and in my head. Seconded, many thanks. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
It's like the giant, generous, flip you to the world. Industry, the Internet, sport and the flipping Beatles. Flip you all melonfarmers, but especially Paris.
|
|
|
|
John From Austin
|
|
« Reply #342 on: August 26, 2013, 04:19:02 PM » |
|
Haha, he's got the grumpy old sod down to a fine art on bookface! Think he's offering to do (historically corrected) column notes on copies now! I'm absolutely going to take Swarb up on his offer, albeit at the risk of losing my autographed, cloth-bound book in the international post. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Dave Thompson
Jr. Member
Offline
Posts: 11
|
|
« Reply #343 on: August 27, 2013, 01:23:39 AM » |
|
I just (last night) finished the book and would just like to make a couple of points that I don't think have been made elsewhere...
The major problem with an "authorised" biography, unless it is being deliberately marketed as a confessional, is that a lot more of the stuff we the reader might think is "interesting" is left out - to avoid embarrassment, avoid hurting people, avoid lawsuits, whatever. And the more people that "authorise" the story, the more those situations are going to arise.
In a way, it's a lose-lose situation. The people who best know the stories are the least likely to tell them. I think everyone who has read the book can think of a dozen places where - to be blunt - we could have been told something "juicy." The rumours and legends surrounding Sandy's death, for example. Various departures. Sundry on- and offstage incidents. But look back at my list of avoidances and ask yourself, could any of those stories have been truthfully told without crossing one of those lines?
No book on any band or performer is ever going to please every fan, and even those biogs that are routinely described as classics (the Doors "Out Of Here Alive," Zep's "Hammer of the Gods") have as many detractors as admirers. But "Fairport" tells its story well... it prompted me to haul out a few of the albums I've not listened to in ages... and while I'll agree that certain elements of the Free Reed booklets could have been incorporated a little better, I think NS did as good a job as circumstances allowed him to.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Jan_
|
|
« Reply #344 on: August 27, 2013, 01:35:40 PM » |
|
I like it that Fairport don't wash their dirty linen in public.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
davidmjs
|
|
« Reply #345 on: August 27, 2013, 01:50:46 PM » |
|
I like it that Fairport don't wash their dirty linen in public.
Did you see what she did there...  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Link to Bluesky (Twitter for normal people) profile by web button on left
|
|
|
|
Jan_
|
|
« Reply #346 on: August 27, 2013, 01:58:23 PM » |
|
Oops! A Freudian slip ... |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: August 27, 2013, 02:17:52 PM by Jan_ »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Dave Thompson
Jr. Member
Offline
Posts: 11
|
|
« Reply #347 on: August 27, 2013, 03:31:25 PM » |
|
Yes, but a really good one!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
PaulT
|
|
« Reply #348 on: August 27, 2013, 04:10:34 PM » |
|
I think I read somewhere that Swarb was planning his own memoirs - that would give him ample opportunity to set straight those records that he feels need so doing.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Flobbadob!
|
|
|
|
Jules Gray
|
|
« Reply #349 on: August 27, 2013, 04:55:20 PM » |
|
I think I read somewhere that Swarb was planning his own memoirs
I read that right here! Jules |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Now be thankful for good things below
|
|
|
|
Henry Tompkins (Pete)
|
|
« Reply #350 on: August 27, 2013, 06:56:43 PM » |
|
Swarb's at it again on fb!! You've got to love him.. 'i have heard rumours that. the film rights of ' Fairport by Fairport have been purchased by Walt Disney!' |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
No Left Turn Unstoned
|
|
|
Dubai Danny
my MIL likes it loud
Sr. Member
Offline
Posts: 272
Loc: Here
|
|
« Reply #351 on: August 28, 2013, 11:46:30 PM » |
|
They are on Facebook,you would need to be a user and get befriended by the worlds greatest fiddler and grumpy old sod
I know they're on FB and I'm a member, but although I've searched various permutations of Swarb's name I can't find his personal page. There are a several Dave Swarbricks on FB (including one right here in Dubai). Which one is it? There aren't any clues. I've found a Swarb fan group, but it doesn't seem to contain any posts from the man himself. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Gouty (Gary)
|
|
« Reply #353 on: August 29, 2013, 12:32:17 AM » |
|
Well, someone's got to say it - phwooaaarrr!!!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
'Eggs, bread, cigs, milk...'
|
|
|
Dubai Danny
my MIL likes it loud
Sr. Member
Offline
Posts: 272
Loc: Here
|
|
« Reply #354 on: August 29, 2013, 08:22:47 AM » |
|
Cheers Andy!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Austin S
|
|
« Reply #355 on: August 29, 2013, 02:55:21 PM » |
|
He's really getting fiery today-- mentioned bringing litigation if possible (and, with the argument he makes that the book will likely become a legitimate 'academic resource' for anyone seriously studying the folk revival of the 60s/70s, I can understand, to a point, where he's coming from).
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
davidmjs
|
|
« Reply #356 on: August 29, 2013, 04:35:15 PM » |
|
Imho, whilst leaning far more towards his side of the argument, I think he's in danger of making a bit of a fool of himself. Imho, he'd be far better placed to concentrate his efforts on making his own autobiography as tip top and 'accurate' as he can....and quit the increasingly childish and tiresome outbursts.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Link to Bluesky (Twitter for normal people) profile by web button on left
|
|
|
|
Will S
|
|
« Reply #357 on: August 29, 2013, 05:00:32 PM » |
|
Imho, whilst leaning far more towards his side of the argument, I think he's in danger of making a bit of a fool of himself. Imho, he'd be far better placed to concentrate his efforts on making his own autobiography as tip top and 'accurate' as he can....and quit the increasingly childish and tiresome outbursts.
Quite agree. If he's concerned that the stories in FbyF are incorrect, then get his versions out there... |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
All the diamonds in the world
That mean anything to me,
Are conjured up by wind and sunlight
Sparkling on the sea
(Bruce Cockburn)
|
|
|
Philip W
forgiving of the rhetorical flourish
Sr. Member
Offline
Posts: 444
Loc: Cambs
|
|
« Reply #358 on: August 29, 2013, 05:29:14 PM » |
|
He's really getting fiery today-- mentioned bringing litigation if possible (and, with the argument he makes that the book will likely become a legitimate 'academic resource' for anyone seriously studying the folk revival of the 60s/70s, I can understand, to a point, where he's coming from).
This is what I wrote earlier today on Dave's wall: "Dave, rather than litigation, I would suggest getting your own book out there as soon as possible. There are plenty of us who'd be happy to lend any assistance we can. I understand your point about university courses, but no respectable piece of academic research would base itself on a single source. If your book appears next to this one on shelves and in bibliographies - preferably with a more substantial publisher - then your voice would be heard, as it so deserves to be."His reply: "thanks Philip work is in progress with my book. being written by a doctor of history and you may well be right."I was tempted to come back, in the smart-Alec style endemic to Bookface, and observe that "doctoring history" is exactly what he's charging his old bandmates with. Then I thought of the title of one of his own songs - 'Let It Go'. Wise advice. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Austin S
|
|
« Reply #359 on: August 29, 2013, 05:36:00 PM » |
|
He's really getting fiery today-- mentioned bringing litigation if possible (and, with the argument he makes that the book will likely become a legitimate 'academic resource' for anyone seriously studying the folk revival of the 60s/70s, I can understand, to a point, where he's coming from).
This is what I wrote earlier today on Dave's wall: "Dave, rather than litigation, I would suggest getting your own book out there as soon as possible. There are plenty of us who'd be happy to lend any assistance we can. I understand your point about university courses, but no respectable piece of academic research would base itself on a single source. If your book appears next to this one on shelves and in bibliographies - preferably with a more substantial publisher - then your voice would be heard, as it so deserves to be."His reply: "thanks Philip work is in progress with my book. being written by a doctor of history and you may well be right."I was tempted to come back, in the smart-Alec style endemic to Bookface, and observe that "doctoring history" is exactly what he's charging his old bandmates with. Then I thought of the title of one of his own songs - 'Let It Go'. Wise advice. I saw your response on their, Philip. I think you're spot on  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
